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Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
July 30 2010 04:02 GMT
#501
I'm getting really sick of people comparing every single glitch they find to Move-shot, Hold-lurkers, and Muta-stacking. They seem to be forgetting that for every little semi-glitch mechanic they left in, they've removed half a dozen others. Remember when you could land a building and roll Siege Tanks under them and siege them up before the building finished landing so they would be inside the building? Remember when you could surround a Drone in a corner so it couldn't move and then tell it to build somewhere on the map and the building would spontaneously start building there?

What Bliz decides to leave in the game as a nifty trick, and what they decide tilts the scales too much is their decision. I thought it was a good find and it was fun to mess around with, but you really don't have to cry about every little thing they fix.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 30 2010 13:21 GMT
#502
No, there is good reason people are "crying". People played the game, and finally discovered some Micro tricks you can do. Like Fazing, or the Snipe stuff with Ghosts. But as soon as these tricks are found, Blizzard takes them out. Thus far, it seems like they don't want to leave anything in the game as a "nifty trick".
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 30 2010 13:24 GMT
#503
On July 30 2010 22:21 Sentenal wrote:
No, there is good reason people are "crying". People played the game, and finally discovered some Micro tricks you can do. Like Fazing, or the Snipe stuff with Ghosts. But as soon as these tricks are found, Blizzard takes them out. Thus far, it seems like they don't want to leave anything in the game as a "nifty trick".

Super disappointed they removed it here as well that was pretty much the only things VRs had left, now VR harass is almost pointless lol.
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HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
July 30 2010 13:26 GMT
#504
They should have nerf this "fazing" thing and not remove it..
K_osss
Profile Joined June 2010
United States113 Posts
July 30 2010 13:32 GMT
#505
Too bad they removed this. As anyone who has tried it knows - it's difficult at best to pull off while macroing and microing your other units. It would have been another way to add depth and skill to the game. I'd like to see them add it back.
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
July 30 2010 13:42 GMT
#506
someone hit someone in the face for this pls, not usually my way but i'm a bit pissed right now. i not even protoss -.-
lets make all units like the pheonix so we dont have to do anything anymore. I just don't understand? Noobs will never enconter this and pro's need something to do! Nice to know they are working on bugs that melt gfx cards rather than removing stuff that adds depth to the game. OH WAIT!

Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
July 30 2010 13:43 GMT
#507
On July 30 2010 22:24 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 22:21 Sentenal wrote:
No, there is good reason people are "crying". People played the game, and finally discovered some Micro tricks you can do. Like Fazing, or the Snipe stuff with Ghosts. But as soon as these tricks are found, Blizzard takes them out. Thus far, it seems like they don't want to leave anything in the game as a "nifty trick".

Super disappointed they removed it here as well that was pretty much the only things VRs had left, now VR harass is almost pointless lol.


disagree, voidrays are still insane
KungKras
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden484 Posts
July 30 2010 14:00 GMT
#508
Have anyone tried if you can faze while charged? A guy earlier in the thread said that they only removed fazing while uncharged.
"When life gives me lemons, I go look for oranges"
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
July 30 2010 14:49 GMT
#509
On July 30 2010 23:00 KungKras wrote:
Have anyone tried if you can faze while charged? A guy earlier in the thread said that they only removed fazing while uncharged.


now that you mention it :D i think thats exactly what happened to me in a 2v2 where i got like 200 voidrays and could only faze with the charged ones... still stupid

who needs to faze with a charged voidray? i need it to fight of 3 marines when i enter the base not when i have already charged up...
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
newbkills
Profile Joined June 2010
United States25 Posts
July 30 2010 19:51 GMT
#510
You were able to faze with a charged VR in the last patch of the Beta. Fazing was always useful because you are doubling your damage output. Even though you could win the fight without fazing, you could win with more HP leftover with fazing.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
July 30 2010 20:26 GMT
#511
I am really disappointed that they removed this ;-(
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 31 2010 00:35 GMT
#512
Worst thing they could have done.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
July 31 2010 00:42 GMT
#513
On July 30 2010 22:24 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 22:21 Sentenal wrote:
No, there is good reason people are "crying". People played the game, and finally discovered some Micro tricks you can do. Like Fazing, or the Snipe stuff with Ghosts. But as soon as these tricks are found, Blizzard takes them out. Thus far, it seems like they don't want to leave anything in the game as a "nifty trick".

Super disappointed they removed it here as well that was pretty much the only things VRs had left, now VR harass is almost pointless lol.


they are still pretty decent but yea, that they removed this was pretty much just sad. It didnt break the game but then again it was not needed for voidrays to have this.
"Mudkip"
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
July 31 2010 06:13 GMT
#514
Rest assured, blizzard doesn't care about e-sports, just e-games.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
EnderCN
Profile Joined May 2010
United States499 Posts
July 31 2010 17:11 GMT
#515
This was obviously a bug and I am surprised they took so long to fix it. If you can still do it while they are charged i hope they patch that very soon too.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
July 31 2010 19:02 GMT
#516
Without tricks like this Pro-games will be superboring to watch. Wc3 has a million of those "little tricks" that really puts depth in the game and differs the real pros from the ordinary people, Blademaster windwalk jumping, tower-build-jumping, zepeline-staffing to name a few.
Here's a video to prove my point.


Then of course Warcraft 3 has a lot of more variations possible with hereos, items and all that good stuff, but I really think SC2 would just do good with some of these small tricks that can really make the pros stand out, more than just with superb macro/micro.
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
July 31 2010 19:16 GMT
#517
wow nice video.
Renaissance
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada273 Posts
July 31 2010 19:40 GMT
#518
On July 30 2010 22:21 Sentenal wrote:
No, there is good reason people are "crying". People played the game, and finally discovered some Micro tricks you can do. Like Fazing, or the Snipe stuff with Ghosts. But as soon as these tricks are found, Blizzard takes them out. Thus far, it seems like they don't want to leave anything in the game as a "nifty trick".

I'm actually afraid to do tricks because I fear it will be shared to everyone and patched by Blizzard.
Live forever or die trying.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 31 2010 20:09 GMT
#519
On July 30 2010 13:02 Sylvr wrote:
I'm getting really sick of people comparing every single glitch they find to Move-shot, Hold-lurkers, and Muta-stacking. They seem to be forgetting that for every little semi-glitch mechanic they left in, they've removed half a dozen others. Remember when you could land a building and roll Siege Tanks under them and siege them up before the building finished landing so they would be inside the building? Remember when you could surround a Drone in a corner so it couldn't move and then tell it to build somewhere on the map and the building would spontaneously start building there?

What Bliz decides to leave in the game as a nifty trick, and what they decide tilts the scales too much is their decision. I thought it was a good find and it was fun to mess around with, but you really don't have to cry about every little thing they fix.


None of those were bugs.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
July 31 2010 20:20 GMT
#520
On August 01 2010 04:02 LittleeD wrote:
Without tricks like this Pro-games will be superboring to watch. Wc3 has a million of those "little tricks" that really puts depth in the game and differs the real pros from the ordinary people, Blademaster windwalk jumping, tower-build-jumping, zepeline-staffing to name a few.
Here's a video to prove my point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iSgwjUV750

Then of course Warcraft 3 has a lot of more variations possible with hereos, items and all that good stuff, but I really think SC2 would just do good with some of these small tricks that can really make the pros stand out, more than just with superb macro/micro.

all those tricks anyone can do. At the highest level. Its more about having an amazing awareness and knowing Exactly what your units should be doing.. every single one of them.
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