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roemy
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany432 Posts
July 09 2010 08:47 GMT
#341
On July 09 2010 14:09 cheeseninja wrote:
Fazing - I loved this trick so much, I just edited the Void Ray article on Liquipedia II. The edit is awaiting an authorized review for permanent addition.

done ^^
btw: this forum has [ wiki2 ] brackets ^^ : (Wiki)Void Ray

but i wanted to mention a few things that came up in this thread that were simply wrong:
void rays need to shoot one target consecutively to charge up.

this can be done with marines, because the the second stage "still" exists - just that it does not differ from the first stage in terms of damage. it serves as a stepping stone and the void ray can reach third stage with a second marine.

anyways, fazing will not charge up your void rays - fazing is more like the complete opposite of charging.



and my personal part of the post:
do not like
it's not the mechanics i dislike - it's the fact that we're talking about the frikkin' Void Ray here...
marines were having a hard time already. hydras don't have the improved rate of fire against air units anymore either. and with that speed, VRs will be more of a corsair than phoenixes -.-

on a sub-platinum level, this phenomenon occurs automatically due to critical mass; the "casual" player is indeed massing VRs and - with a bit of stacking - plows through everything with just 1a.
i hear it's extremely boring and the worst smack magnet ever.

sry, but... imho, give this nifty feature to the "recently" dmg-nerfed sentry and change the PrismaticBeam 's period value="0" to... anything that's not 0.
rock is fine.. paper could need a buff, but scissors have to be nerfed
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
July 09 2010 09:13 GMT
#342
On July 09 2010 12:38 pzea469 wrote:
i think voidrays might be op now lol
just faced someone going voidrays and my stalkers evaporated so fast. Pretty sure he was Fazing


If you aren't sure then he was not.
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
July 09 2010 09:27 GMT
#343
On July 09 2010 15:04 Auronz wrote:
How can someone seriously think this is good/balanced?

Voids' damage should be turned into a damage over time only. It's bad enough that the thing counters it's intended counters soft or otherwise. People seem to forget this is not Brood War and while micro tricks are nice, ridiculously imbalanced things only one race can do are not.


If this makes Blizzard redesign the Void Ray and do away with charging I'd be all for it. Comparatively speaking Protoss air is pretty lackluster.
superman.
Profile Joined July 2010
65 Posts
July 09 2010 10:21 GMT
#344
WOW. thats mindblowingly powerful lol
Zhek
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada342 Posts
July 09 2010 11:08 GMT
#345
On July 09 2010 15:04 Auronz wrote:
How can someone seriously think this is good/balanced?

Voids' damage should be turned into a damage over time only. It's bad enough that the thing counters it's intended counters soft or otherwise. People seem to forget this is not Brood War and while micro tricks are nice, ridiculously imbalanced things only one race can do are not.


Tanks.
Schurk
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands47 Posts
July 09 2010 12:02 GMT
#346
don't know if this has been posted before, but would this fazing work on 1 building / unit if you'd mash your S button and right mouse button?
Lixler
Profile Joined March 2010
United States265 Posts
July 09 2010 12:08 GMT
#347
On July 09 2010 21:02 Schurk wrote:
don't know if this has been posted before, but would this fazing work on 1 building / unit if you'd mash your S button and right mouse button?


Just tested this and it doesn't work; the void rays don't stop shooting when you give them the stop command (probably because they can fire while moving). It does work if you right click the target and then the ground near it rapidly, though.
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
July 09 2010 14:09 GMT
#348
On July 09 2010 15:04 Auronz wrote:
How can someone seriously think this is good/balanced?

Voids' damage should be turned into a damage over time only. It's bad enough that the thing counters it's intended counters soft or otherwise. People seem to forget this is not Brood War and while micro tricks are nice, ridiculously imbalanced things only one race can do are not.


It MAY be overpowered, but I wouldn't judge it too quickly. Remember how overpowered muta-stacking was when people first started using it? Now it's fine, and nothing has changed.
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Rokman
Profile Joined May 2010
United States63 Posts
July 09 2010 14:42 GMT
#349
I despise people who turtle with 2349578263578 cannons and mass void ray
Someone should build a pylon near their brain!
DkH.ZeRa
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany39 Posts
July 09 2010 16:37 GMT
#350
nice one!
Zeromadcowz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada241 Posts
July 10 2010 02:53 GMT
#351
On July 09 2010 23:42 Rokman wrote:
I despise people who turtle with 2349578263578 cannons and mass void ray

those players are normally pretty easy to kill before they have their cannons set up well, as long as you scout
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 10:50:28
July 13 2010 10:50 GMT
#352
is this usable online, cuz of lag and stuffs does it screw upthe faze effect?
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
July 13 2010 14:34 GMT
#353
On July 13 2010 19:50 Malgrif wrote:
is this usable online, cuz of lag and stuffs does it screw upthe faze effect?

I'm kinda interested in this as well, i tried it once on the fly(having never tried it solo either) and failed miserably, rofl.
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tathecat563
Profile Joined April 2010
United States96 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 15:03:50
July 13 2010 15:03 GMT
#354
It'll take some practice to do it online but in theory it should definitely be doable.

When I use Void Rays, I usually bring a probe/zealot, build a proxy pylon right outside of where the Void Rays are about to engage the enemy and charge the Void Rays there.
Hi
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 15:12:20
July 13 2010 15:10 GMT
#355
Oh my god I chocked on my tea when I saw the stacked rays with queued attacks unleashing on probes. That shit is brutal. Fazing is also freaking awesome.

As if void rays weren't strong enough.
Santriell
Profile Joined June 2010
Belgium151 Posts
July 13 2010 15:16 GMT
#356
Cheating swines are quick to call it a "feature" or "micro trick" when it reality it's just a pathetic exploit for people already playing the noobiest-friendly race to abuse even more...

User was warned for this post
By the clack smack cracking of my thumbs, something wicked this may comes.
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
July 13 2010 15:23 GMT
#357
I guess muta micro is a pathetic exploit in BW then? It's extremely similar.
TheNomad
Profile Joined April 2010
United States134 Posts
July 13 2010 15:24 GMT
#358
On July 14 2010 00:16 Santriell wrote:
Cheating swines are quick to call it a "feature" or "micro trick" when it reality it's just a pathetic exploit for people already playing the noobiest-friendly race to abuse even more...


You mad about something bro? It's a good find, let it go.
Santriell
Profile Joined June 2010
Belgium151 Posts
July 13 2010 15:27 GMT
#359
On July 14 2010 00:24 TheNomad wrote:
You mad about something bro? It's a good find, let it go.


I mad @ the onslaught of lamers who have been using this shit lately. Short of the 4-gaters pretty much every protoss i've played against resorts to that cheap crap when they feel they're losing...
By the clack smack cracking of my thumbs, something wicked this may comes.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 15:31:15
July 13 2010 15:30 GMT
#360
This will only work with perfect latency, and zero delay. In an actual game you will NEVER be able to perform this to your advantage (concerning 99 % of the community and 100 % of people posting in this thread). So just give it a damn rest will ya
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