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Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
June 17 2010 21:02 GMT
#101
As I expected, regardless of slight thinking of imbalance in matchups at different points, all matchups ended up being pretty close to each others:

ZvP : 74 win(s) & 54 loss(es) : 57.812%
ZvT : 82 win(s) & 51 loss(es) : 61.654%
ZvZ : 113 win(s) & 77 loss(es) : 59.473%

Also shows how much more zergs there has been during beta than other races No wonder, the coolest race obv (!).

Anyhow, the map specific stats really speak its own languages. My worst maps, which I at some points have considered really hard for zerg, kulas being the worst:

ZvP : 6 win(s) & 8 loss(es) : 42.857%
ZvT : 2 win(s) & 6 loss(es) : 25%
ZvZ : 6 win(s) & 5 loss(es) : 54.545%

Ofc really small sample, but proves a point the crying has at least had its catalysator in reality

Then some other maps just seem incredibly hard for one matchup, and easy for other, such as blistering:

ZvP : 9 win(s) & 13 loss(es) : 40.909%
ZvT : 15 win(s) & 2 loss(es) : 88.235%
ZvZ : 20 win(s) & 14 loss(es) : 58.823%

Small samples, yet feelings about vP being hard and vT much easier stand correct for this map.

Anyway cool to see stats, thanks for software.
Elite00fm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States548 Posts
June 17 2010 21:17 GMT
#102
PvP : 0 win(s) & 0 loss(es) : 0%
PvT : 0 win(s) & 0 loss(es) : 0%
PvZ : 0 win(s) & 0 loss(es) : 0%
Pv? : 0 win(s) & 0 loss(es) : 0%

TvP : 3 win(s) & 4 loss(es) : 42.857%
TvT : 3 win(s) & 1 loss(es) : 75%
TvZ : 5 win(s) & 1 loss(es) : 83.333%
Tv? : 11 win(s) & 6 loss(es) : 64.705%

ZvP : 36 win(s) & 21 loss(es) : 63.157%
ZvT : 21 win(s) & 27 loss(es) : 43.75%
ZvZ : 16 win(s) & 12 loss(es) : 57.142%
Zv? : 73 win(s) & 60 loss(es) : 54.887%

?vP : 39 win(s) & 25 loss(es) : 60.937%
?vT : 24 win(s) & 28 loss(es) : 46.153%
?vZ : 21 win(s) & 13 loss(es) : 61.764%
?v? : 84 win(s) & 66 loss(es) : 56%

T clearly imba
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
June 17 2010 21:27 GMT
#103
Woo that program is great! :D

And lol at my TvP.


PvP : 15 win(s) & 12 loss(es) : 55.555%
PvT : 17 win(s) & 6 loss(es) : 73.913%
PvZ : 12 win(s) & 7 loss(es) : 63.157%
Pv? : 44 win(s) & 25 loss(es) : 63.768%

TvP : 5 win(s) & 15 loss(es) : 25%
TvT : 13 win(s) & 7 loss(es) : 65%
TvZ : 14 win(s) & 14 loss(es) : 50%
Tv? : 32 win(s) & 36 loss(es) : 47.058%

ZvP : 8 win(s) & 6 loss(es) : 57.142%
ZvT : 16 win(s) & 5 loss(es) : 76.19%
ZvZ : 9 win(s) & 4 loss(es) : 69.23%
Zv? : 33 win(s) & 15 loss(es) : 68.75%

?vP : 28 win(s) & 33 loss(es) : 45.901%
?vT : 46 win(s) & 18 loss(es) : 71.875%
?vZ : 35 win(s) & 25 loss(es) : 58.333%
?v? : 109 win(s) & 76 loss(es) : 58.918%
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
June 18 2010 00:48 GMT
#104
Suggestion: Graphs of win% over time!!!!
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
June 18 2010 23:14 GMT
#105
This is pretty sick
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Cyanure
Profile Joined June 2009
France51 Posts
June 19 2010 20:53 GMT
#106
So, I've looked for the non-Windows OS and come up with some good news !

* Linux *
I tried it myself on a Linux (Ubuntu Lucid) through WINE and it 'worked'. I mean everything seems to work except the browse directory thing.
Basically, you must place the program DIRECTLY INTO THE REPLAY FOLDER and just let the '.' into the field aside the "browse directory" button. DO NOT CLICK ON THE BROWSE BUTTON, it mess up the whole thing up.

* mac *
I have finally find someone with a mac, and the program seems to launch via crossover after 10 seconds (which is basically WINE for mac) but couldn't test anything else (he's not playing sc2) so I'm assuming it's working at least as 'well' as on Linux (it's the same pgm...).
here is the tuto page
here is the tierce program to download if you don't know anything!
Krissam
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark189 Posts
June 21 2010 23:31 GMT
#107
On June 17 2010 16:31 javiskefka wrote:
Hey, does this include replays located in subdirectories?


It doesn't seem to do so.

ZvP : 10 win(s) & 7 loss(es) : 58.823%
ZvT : 12 win(s) & 11 loss(es) : 52.173%
ZvZ : 10 win(s) & 7 loss(es) : 58.823%
Zv? : 32 win(s) & 25 loss(es) : 56.14%

Apparently I'm better than I thought
But then again... 57 games isn't a huge sample, will be cool once we get a couple hundred games down tho.
If you can chill, chill!" - TLAF-Liquid´Tyler
Knutzi
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway664 Posts
June 22 2010 00:33 GMT
#108
PvP : 14 win(s) & 3 loss(es) : 82.352%
PvT : 11 win(s) & 20 loss(es) : 35.483%
PvZ : 14 win(s) & 5 loss(es) : 73.684%
Pv? : 39 win(s) & 28 loss(es) : 58.208%

this would explain why i hate terran so much : (
CheezDip
Profile Joined June 2010
126 Posts
June 22 2010 00:51 GMT
#109
Can this be made to work for 2v2? That's what I played almost exclusively during the beta.
CheAse
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada919 Posts
June 22 2010 01:06 GMT
#110
TvP : 37 win(s) & 17 loss(es) : 68.518%
TvT : 27 win(s) & 15 loss(es) : 64.285%
TvZ : 34 win(s) & 8 loss(es) : 80.952%
Tv? : 98 win(s) & 40 loss(es) : 71.014%


and I thought tvt was my best =(
SCV good to go sir
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 02:12:09
June 22 2010 02:10 GMT
#111
Hey cool, when was the ladder filter feature added?

My ZvT lost 22% more than my other two matchups' average on ladder. I'd like to know what other people's stats are regarding this in top 20% of platinum/diamond.

What's kind of strange though, is that matchmaker pitted me against protoss 85% more than against terran, and against zerg 85% more than against terran. So instead of a 1 in 3 chance of facing terran, it was more like 1 in 5. No I do not think this had a significant impact on my win ratios though (making one better because they played more).
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 02:38:01
June 22 2010 02:29 GMT
#112
ZvP : 19 win(s) & 6 loss(es) : 76%
ZvT : 15 win(s) & 5 loss(es) : 75%
ZvZ : 11 win(s) & 7 loss(es) : 61.111%
Zv? : 45 win(s) & 18 loss(es) : 71.428%

cool, I knew zvz was my worst, but I didn't expect the other two matchups to be so close. Somehow I have the highest win% on Desert Oasis and the lowest on Scrap Station. That is odd.

Honestly, Blizzard should already have this implemented on bnet. It's unfortunate that this has to come from the community. good work nonetheless~
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
choppa
Profile Joined June 2010
France5 Posts
June 22 2010 10:26 GMT
#113
On June 22 2010 11:10 Xapti wrote:
Hey cool, when was the ladder filter feature added?

[...]


It was added on June 17 :p
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4747 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 10:56:04
June 22 2010 10:51 GMT
#114
TvP : 23 win(s) & 32 loss(es) : 41.818%
TvT : 28 win(s) & 12 loss(es) : 70%
TvZ : 17 win(s) & 12 loss(es) : 58.62%
Tv? : 68 win(s) & 56 loss(es) : 54.838%

Pretty much exactly as I remembered. I have no idea how to tvp, while my tvt is pretty gosu

Scrap Station was my best map (68%), while I suck big time on Metalopolis (40% with 1-7 in tvp).
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Cyanure
Profile Joined June 2009
France51 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 11:26:19
June 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#115
On June 22 2010 09:51 CheezDip wrote:
Can this be made to work for 2v2? That's what I played almost exclusively during the beta.

I do play 2v2 quite a lot more than 1v1, but as it seems, I didn't care so much about my win ratio per matchup in 2v2.
Would you really want a 256 line table with approximately 0 game on each line ?

On June 22 2010 19:26 choppa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2010 11:10 Xapti wrote:
Hey cool, when was the ladder filter feature added?

[...]


It was added on June 17 :p

which means basically, two day after the first release !

On June 22 2010 11:29 Mindcrime wrote:
Honestly, Blizzard should already have this implemented on bnet. It's unfortunate that this has to come from the community. good work nonetheless~

They most probably did, but they will release it with the general release of the game... hopefully
CoMMoDuS
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany507 Posts
June 22 2010 11:53 GMT
#116
wow this is really useful, would be pretty nice if it was in the actual game as well
There is no unemployment amongst overlords-Artosis
Batisterio-PiB
Profile Joined August 2007
Brazil219 Posts
July 04 2010 16:50 GMT
#117
very nice program!
Has something similar in BW?
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
July 09 2010 18:24 GMT
#118
does this still work in phase 2?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
Tresh
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina68 Posts
July 09 2010 18:46 GMT
#119
I dont think its working now, at least it doesn't for me. They must've changed how replays work, or something... Hope this sweet program gets updated.
Huh?
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
July 12 2010 00:30 GMT
#120
Nope, doesn't work
Any news of an update, TC?
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