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On June 04 2010 23:48 Executioner.zealot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 09:05 synapse wrote:I'm guessing the main point of this patch was the change in the ladder promotion / ranking system... Does this mean extension of SCIIBeta? :D (I mean, what can they actually test in 4 days  ) Beta wont be extended. They have ordered the hardware and need to get that idle hardware hooked up. If anything they will be banking on the phase 2 of the beta to get some more test in before they send out the next patch for people buying the current release.
How do we know they've ordered hardware?
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Love the change to reapers..Went from never losing vs reaper harass, to I have now lost 5 games in a row after 5-0ing my placements to reapers and got bounced to shitty gold when I should be in diamond. Little irritating considering I scouted and built for them and my stalkers flatly can't counter them again. This should be a fun patch. /sarcasm.
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What???
I seriously don't understand why blizzard continues to reduce upgrade costs to 50/50 for terran completely removing choices from the game and making the game less interesting as a result.
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just wana tell everyone that diamond is backed up, rank2 diamond right now =))
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On June 05 2010 12:10 -orb- wrote:
What???
I seriously don't understand why blizzard continues to reduce upgrade costs to 50/50 for terran completely removing choices from the game and making the game less interesting as a result.
You're 100% wrong. Before there was absolutely no choice - the reaper upgrade was trash. Now there is a choice on whether you want to include reapers into your strategy past 2 minutes...now you can use them for a whopping 2 minutes or so longer (lol).
Anyways, now there is choice between stim/concussive/reaper, which also means many diff styles and such.
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On June 05 2010 01:05 antelope591 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 23:42 Puosu wrote:On June 04 2010 22:17 lolaloc wrote:On June 04 2010 21:24 Therapist wrote:On June 04 2010 21:19 weepingblades wrote:
Has anyone been put in the bottom league? I wonder if they simply went back to Copper -> Plat. Seems unlikely, but you never know. No .. I went 0-5 on my spare account it's still bronze. It must be a glitch, it doesn't make sense to make it this difficult to get into diamond with only 3 days left in the beta. Blizzard is testing if getting into Diamond is tough enough. If someone manages to enter in 3 days, they'll increase the difficulty lol I really hope that's the case and the new diamond will actually be something like A level on iccup, only the really, really good players can reach it. lol if they made it as tough as A on ICCUP you'd have like 10 diamond players on the whole NA servers
A really should just be Proleague. But even then Diamond should be High C/low b.
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On June 05 2010 12:13 Half wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2010 01:05 antelope591 wrote:On June 04 2010 23:42 Puosu wrote:On June 04 2010 22:17 lolaloc wrote:On June 04 2010 21:24 Therapist wrote:On June 04 2010 21:19 weepingblades wrote:
Has anyone been put in the bottom league? I wonder if they simply went back to Copper -> Plat. Seems unlikely, but you never know. No .. I went 0-5 on my spare account it's still bronze. It must be a glitch, it doesn't make sense to make it this difficult to get into diamond with only 3 days left in the beta. Blizzard is testing if getting into Diamond is tough enough. If someone manages to enter in 3 days, they'll increase the difficulty lol I really hope that's the case and the new diamond will actually be something like A level on iccup, only the really, really good players can reach it. lol if they made it as tough as A on ICCUP you'd have like 10 diamond players on the whole NA servers A really should just be Proleague. But even then Diamond should be High C/low b.
boo low C i want to be in diamond 
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On June 05 2010 12:13 Half wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2010 01:05 antelope591 wrote:On June 04 2010 23:42 Puosu wrote:On June 04 2010 22:17 lolaloc wrote:On June 04 2010 21:24 Therapist wrote:On June 04 2010 21:19 weepingblades wrote:
Has anyone been put in the bottom league? I wonder if they simply went back to Copper -> Plat. Seems unlikely, but you never know. No .. I went 0-5 on my spare account it's still bronze. It must be a glitch, it doesn't make sense to make it this difficult to get into diamond with only 3 days left in the beta. Blizzard is testing if getting into Diamond is tough enough. If someone manages to enter in 3 days, they'll increase the difficulty lol I really hope that's the case and the new diamond will actually be something like A level on iccup, only the really, really good players can reach it. lol if they made it as tough as A on ICCUP you'd have like 10 diamond players on the whole NA servers A really should just be Proleague. But even then Diamond should be High C/low b.
The problem is that player skill ultimately is relative. The only way you're going to scale how good players are in each league reliably is by how many people you let in, and right now, there just aren't that many people that are the equivalent of B/C level at the game. Even if you put them in one league, they would be matched against people the league below them anyway, because there simply wouldn't be enough of them for them to always find matches against one another.
Obviously that'll change as the game progresses, but I expect that it should sort itself out.
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On June 05 2010 00:36 NeoScout wrote:
it's absurd how blizz is obeying the community
probably because the community was right
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has anyone else seem a problem in the ladder with points/stats of players?
i've seen a player that is 5-3 w/ over 110, matchlist shows him as 6-3 with a 40 pt win, yet he was over 110 pts, how the fuck is that possible?
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On June 05 2010 12:13 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2010 12:10 -orb- wrote:
What???
I seriously don't understand why blizzard continues to reduce upgrade costs to 50/50 for terran completely removing choices from the game and making the game less interesting as a result. You're 100% wrong. Before there was absolutely no choice - the reaper upgrade was trash. Now there is a choice on whether you want to include reapers into your strategy past 2 minutes...now you can use them for a whopping 2 minutes or so longer (lol). Anyways, now there is choice between stim/concussive/reaper, which also means many diff styles and such.
I'm 100% wrong and there was absolutely no choice before?
That's funny because personally I've used the upgrade many times and I've seen in it plenty of high level games.
I guess that makes it not 100% doesn't it? And since it was about it being in existence at all I guess that makes you 100% wrong.
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So...yea..does anyone else find it hilariously retarded that, going by their logic from the last patch of making ovie speed 100/100 was to remove the 'gimmie' factor but they give terran ANOTHER gimmie to go with concussive shells?
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On June 05 2010 15:18 -orb- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2010 12:13 avilo wrote:On June 05 2010 12:10 -orb- wrote:
What???
I seriously don't understand why blizzard continues to reduce upgrade costs to 50/50 for terran completely removing choices from the game and making the game less interesting as a result. You're 100% wrong. Before there was absolutely no choice - the reaper upgrade was trash. Now there is a choice on whether you want to include reapers into your strategy past 2 minutes...now you can use them for a whopping 2 minutes or so longer (lol). Anyways, now there is choice between stim/concussive/reaper, which also means many diff styles and such. I'm 100% wrong and there was absolutely no choice before? That's funny because personally I've used the upgrade many times and I've seen in it plenty of high level games. I guess that makes it not 100% doesn't it? And since it was about it being in existence at all I guess that makes you 100% wrong.
While I agree that the guy you quoted is being an idiot, you surely must agree that 100/100 for a unit upgrade that will likely only be used for a few minutes in the early game isn't exactly encouraging
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Sooo is there a diamond league now ?Or the highest is platinum
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On June 05 2010 12:10 -orb- wrote:
What???
I seriously don't understand why blizzard continues to reduce upgrade costs to 50/50 for terran completely removing choices from the game and making the game less interesting as a result.
Warp gate at 50/50 is a good choice I see no one complaining about it.
It will be a choice, player won't train stimpack+marine's shield+marauder's slow+reaper's speed. 99% people took stimpack over this uppgrade, it was not really a choice before.
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On June 05 2010 12:10 -orb- wrote:
What???
I seriously don't understand why blizzard continues to reduce upgrade costs to 50/50 for terran completely removing choices from the game and making the game less interesting as a result.
Lol, agreed.
Marauder : concussive shell lowered to 50/50
Reaper: nitro boost lowered to 50/50
stim cost lowered, marine combat shield cost lowered
zerg:
overlord speed increased to 100/100
burrow increased to 100/100 research time doubled
neural parasite 150/150
i know these are different abilities, but really, what gives?
On one hand they state that they want upgrades to be choices that are being made by the player. yet they streamline the terran upgrades to be dirt cheap while at the same time enforcing their philosophy on zerg. lol.
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Man I guess Blizz does give in to whining. Its crazy that no one used tanks and then all it took was a few pro replays of tanks being used and BAM everyone goes mech. Now I wonder what the next T unit is gona be that were going to switch using and that everyone willc omplain about. Its gona be the repears because now people will get the upgrade and keep a small pack of them around for econ harass mid game through late game, calling it right now.
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On June 05 2010 16:08 XXXSmOke wrote:
Man I guess Blizz does give in to whining. Its crazy that no one used tanks and then all it took was a few pro replays of tanks being used and BAM everyone goes mech.
No it took patches
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On June 05 2010 11:00 hacpee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2010 10:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
or to learn to use pheonix/carrier/hallucination/HT or any of the other little explored units in Protoss's arsonal
Cause phoenix and carriers own vikings.
and BC's and Vikes own phoenixs
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On June 05 2010 12:10 -orb- wrote:
What???
I seriously don't understand why blizzard continues to reduce upgrade costs to 50/50 for terran completely removing choices from the game and making the game less interesting as a result.
I completely agree, orb. Cheap upgrades are pointless in starcraft: they become another thing to click while macro ing instead of a strategic alternative. If the upgrade is too weak to justify 100/100, it should be buffed or removed entirely, not cheapened.
oh, it's not just Terran though--don't forget about warp gates!
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