EPTbattle.net 2.0 is a restaurant! - Page 10
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Phlatline
Croatia176 Posts
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
On May 31 2010 09:28 ghosthunter wrote: Spreading awareness instead of discussion isn't all that productive however. And a post with 200 pages is much more indicative of discussion than many posts just saying blizzard sucks. On a side note, Does this really aid the sake of discussion? Shouldn't the discussion focus on what value these systems add and how necessary they are, as opposed to how them not being implemented is like a restaurant. I suppose my end point is this, if you really want to implement change, giving valid reasons is always much more effective than a petition thread. Since this population will never represent any sort of practical market share, petition threads with everyone agreeing isn't really a reason. Logical discussions are much more convincing. To be fair, reasons have already been discussed in the more serious, focused threads. If all threads even remotely related to any of the issues community members are having with the outlook of Bnet 2 were to be filled entirely with posts on reasons... it would be pretty unreasonable, dry, and inhuman. People aren't like that. A mix of outbursts, arguments, jokes, theses, even satire as in here is the way a group of individuals naturally complains, not one robotic, organized spreadsheet of the same reasons parroted in a perfectly logical fashion over and over. Underestimating awareness and raw emotion does not lead to an accurate understanding of communication. Awareness, reach, exposure are all metrics used in marketing to gauge how powerful a campaign can become. Awareness is the foundation of every ideological campaign, from the Great Awakening to modern Presidential races. Emotion is the stone bulwark that all onlookers stare transfixed at. Reason merely comprises the fancy crenellations that are difficult to assess and that many completely ignore. Sure logically, reason justifies the issue. That's simply not how people work, though. In reality, creating an issue justifies someone spending the time to look at the reasons. I mean honestly, even though the spectrum of complaints still being leveled against SC2 may be legion, it would take no more than 3 pages to state and justify them all in a readable fashion. Creating such an open letter of suggestions would be the best way to purely convey complainants' reasons. I personally wouldn't count on it having an impact because 1: no reliable delivery mechanism, 2: no assurance that the development situation is amenable to any changes, 3: likelihood of messages being lost in translation across the feedback chain. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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bakesale
United States187 Posts
On May 30 2010 22:46 AyJay wrote: It's funny although I have to disagree with map marketing I think it's awesome idea because it will keep people motivating to make better and better maps. I really wouldn't mind throwing extra dollars if map is worth it. I agree, I don't have a problem with the map marketplace. However, they have stated that they're going to be taking "micropayments" for things like changing your name, etc. So maybe the author's comment was directed at that aspect of it. | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Kegs.aus
Australia133 Posts
On May 30 2010 21:52 lolaloc wrote: Title is wrong! Blizzard = Restaurant B.net 2 = Waiter A restaurant hires a waiter, they dont develop it with total control...so this the former is better. | ||
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teapot
United Kingdom266 Posts
Given the lack of cross server functionality. You will probably have to repurchase all your maps for any battle.net account you have. I hope you don't intend to play any DoTA with your cross continent friends. Could be pricey. | ||
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h4xh4xh4x
Canada90 Posts
But please, for the love of god, stop ruining Starcraft. Stop with the achievements. Stop with the horrible functionality. Stop with the kiddy bullshit that ruins competitive gaming. I don't fucking care that I got 10 wins as terran, and woooow a cool new avatar! There is a million other genres they can use for money grubbing. Just please, for the love of God and competitive gaming stop ruining starcraft 2. I didn't wait 10 years for this. I'm nostalgia'ing all over the place at my 13 year old self discussing how great SC2 would be. Believe me, even as a 13 year old, I wasn't imagining "the fantastic possibility of avatars next to my name", I was dreaming of gaming becoming recognized as something more than just a waste of time, or fun. They should start giving out "mini-trophies" in hockey whenever a hockey team wins more than 3 games in a row. They could add an extra hour of televised time by having little congratulatory events. Only people would stop watching, because they watch the NHL to watch hockey, not bullshit award ceremonies. | ||
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Tiazi
Netherlands761 Posts
On May 31 2010 18:57 h4xh4xh4x wrote: Fuck blizzard. I'm so pissed off that they are ruining a game that GAMERS created. Blarg. Ruin COD, ruin Counter-Strike, ruin Halo .... I soooo agree with you that activision ruined COD with ignoring his community from a cry out loud for a new patch back in the days I was playing call of duty 2 competitively. But the starcraft community is soo much bigger. So much better organised. The can't ignore us. Can they..? | ||
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despite
Bulgaria105 Posts
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gedassan
Lithuania83 Posts
I would also like if they had some sharper bouncers in the restaurant. As it is now, when I go to use the bathroom, people from the street come into the restaurant, take my food and start a food fight (hacking my old WoW account cancelled months ago and selling gold or smth, I don't know). The restaurant owner decides I am to blame and throws me out... (close account). He is happy to have me back if I order a new portion. Well, I decide - next time I will not have that stale mashed potato anymore, but I am worried about the roastbeef (SC2) - will I suffer the same fate? | ||
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
Sharing food between you and your loved one is completly forbidden since there have been case where people would eat for free by doing this (no lan) For me it is more like: You have 5 friends over and you want to order some take out. However, you're not allowed to call and order for all 6 of you. No, they all have to order their own food. During a separate call. On their own phone cause they can't use yours Great metaphor! From a business I understand a great deal of the choices Blizzard has made. I even understand (if support is big word) that they want to force everyone to use battle.net2.0.But lets say my same 5 friends want to play some SC2 after ordering this aforementioned take-out. How the hell am I supposed to do this? They can bring their own PC but I do not have 5 internet connections ready. Has anybody found a solution to this? Also, how possible would authenticated LAN be? I mean, you make a local, offline party, you connect to battle.net though 1 PC, Blizzard authenticates all your licenses and you can play your own little LAN. Possible? | ||
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[wh]_ForAlways
United States235 Posts
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
On May 31 2010 22:32 [wh]_ForAlways wrote: To make it analagous with food: Starcraft 2 + BNet 2.0 is like a cheese pizza, and the maps on the marketplace are like paying for pepperoni, sausage, banana peppers, etc. So you pay for your cheese pizza and you pay again for every single extra topping you want? Even if your old pizza place had everything already? I think most people fear the market place because nobody knows exactly what "premium goods" means. Let's say Python. Or Destination and HeartBreakRidge. If SC1 was on battlenet2.0, would we have to pay to play on these maps? | ||
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koonst
United States215 Posts
wow.. that sucks I can see the waiter now.. Dressed in red with his fancy towel draped over his ar and that nose in the air . bringing ur food on paper plates.. Now those paper plates do the job and doesn't make the food less tasty The next table over.. are eating on fine china. You're like sayin WTF . Wondering dam.why am i eating on a paper plate? The waiter then informs you that u have to Pay to eat on a normal plate . Or extra on fine china (the big league .. league maps) | ||
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Toran7
United States160 Posts
On May 31 2010 22:52 koonst wrote: I didnt know they are going to charge for map market maps? wow.. that sucks I can see the waiter now.. Dressed in red with his fancy towel draped over his ar and that nose in the air . bringing ur food on paper plates.. Now those paper plates do the job and doesn't make the food less tasty The next table over.. are eating on fine china. You're like sayin WTF . Wondering dam.why am i eating on a paper plate? The waiter then informs you that u have to Pay to eat on a normal plate . Or extra on fine china (the big league .. league maps) They have only hinted at plans to implement it. Blizzard said that instead of a weekly featured map, they would approach the map makers and offer them small royalties and then sell the map to the community. I'm actually hoping that this is only for well thought out custom campaigns. But I know deep down this isn't the case | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
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Dragonsven
United States145 Posts
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
On May 31 2010 03:54 Diminotoor wrote: I didn't say the people on here were kids. I said that people who pay all these fees are stuck in the infantile mindset of "I want my new toy I want it NOW NOW NOW". Your opinion is based on an assumption, not a fact. Try reading before you respond. Overall I think you're stuck in the infantile mindset of 'I'm right because I'm on a forum and don't have to face people face to face so I feel like I'm entitled to act like a knowitall'. Get out. | ||
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BadWithNames
United States441 Posts
http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1187 Here's an interview with him. Excerpt (post psuedo LAN/low latency solution discussion): Shack: And you couldn't possibly be abandoning the competitive leagues of StarCraft II. Greg Canessa: Right, and we have solutions for location-based tournaments and other things. We just haven't announced the specifics for a lot of things. But we're working on it. Really? Now's the time to start talking about it. | ||
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