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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On August 03 2010 22:38 MythicalMage wrote: Look at EA. EA has a striving business supporting developers much like publishers/editors support authors. They offer money for development costs, casting, VO's, etc, and offer input to smooth out the product. I'm not going to talk too too much about EA (I don't follow them closely), but I do know that with companies like Bioware, they let the developer develop, and then they market and so on. I think Activision will slowly come over to this way of thinking the same way EA did. EA got a very bad reputation over the past couple years (decade) for low quality products with maximized profit decisions. Its actually really interesting if you look back at when westwood studios (Command and Conquer) was bought by EA. They went through the exact kinda cathartic conversations that the Blizzard community finds itself in post Activision merger. | ||
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Epsilon8
Canada173 Posts
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CROrens
Croatia1005 Posts
On August 04 2010 00:29 Archerofaiur wrote: EA got a very bad reputation over the past couple years (decade) for low quality products with maximized profit decisions. Its actually really interesting if you look back at when westwood studios (Command and Conquer) was bought by EA. They went through the exact kinda cathartic conversations that the Blizzard community finds itself in post Activision merger. and we all know what happened to C&C  | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
yup yup | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
Oh my god they're sexist too! Hatehatehatehate!  | ||
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On August 04 2010 00:29 Archerofaiur wrote: EA got a very bad reputation over the past couple years (decade) for low quality products with maximized profit decisions. Its actually really interesting if you look back at when westwood studios (Command and Conquer) was bought by EA. They went through the exact kinda cathartic conversations that the Blizzard community finds itself in post Activision merger. The point is that EA is changing. EA is supporting it's developers now. Sure EA sports is garbage and so on, but the games they publish are pretty good now. That's the relationship I want between developer and publisher. | ||
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Snowfield
1289 Posts
MW3, suck a fat one | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:44 Snowfield wrote: I'll never buy any Activision game ever again, its disgusting. MW3, suck a fat one Unfortunatly Kotick could not pick up on this as he was to busy bording his private jet | ||
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Gregsen
Germany667 Posts
Well, in the TL I've known for years, they would be! May I ask, what exactly are the "official views" that the TeamLiquid.net staff has on this? sry for the push, but it has been on my heart a long time now. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
also LOL AT THE NOTIFICATION HEADER :D | ||
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Red Alert
United States119 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivendi#2007 | ||
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blitzkrieger
United States512 Posts
Blizzard said 3 games, $60 each over the course of 3 years. Thats FINE. Valve did this for HL2 Episodes (as far as I know) and its FINE. They are not hiding costs or adding premiums. However Blizzard removing Lan for DRM and not including Chat channels to please Facebook is already showing signs of problems. Its not directly destroying the game but its the signs of deterioration. I hope Blizzard doesn't turn into Activision's right hand but there are some signs and it makes me a bit sad. It looks like Valve is the last developer thats awesome. Steam is just so good, awesome deals all the time, unlimited DL's, I feel like they care about gamers. Also just found this: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/103797-EA-Fires-Back-at-Bobby-Kotick Bungie and Halo did this and I boycott them still. + Show Spoiler + I loved Halo 1. I bought two Xboxes and 2 copies of halo 1 and had 6 controllers. I even got it for PC. I bought this because I loved the game. I bought books, a router, xbox live, and even subscribed to the horrible xbox magazine for a halo 2 demo (which never came, liars). I got two copies of halo 2, one for each xbox. I spend a lot of time playing and had big lans all the time. I bought more books. I saved my lunch money to buy all this stuff too since it was in high school. Halo 2 came with new maps to play. I bought the map pack CD and gave it to all my friends. They then made more maps ONLY online so you HAVE to buy it to play ranked and for EACH account. I was so mad I quit and decided to never buy another halo product. I did get a copy of halo 3 (just barely for the story) and it was crap. Halo 2 single was crap. It wasn't even about the money its just about being treated like a cash cow. I have no problem spending money on the things I love but when they force you to buy garbage and make hidden costs and try to be sly I hate that. Its just wrong to do that. If Halo 2 cost $70 upfront I would have paid that (I paid $125 with tax for 2 copies). I now hate halo and bungie and will never buy another one of their products ever and tell everyone else not to because they are greedy assholes. I don't care about the universe, the games, the books, or anything anymore. I think a lot of people are like me and wish more were so companies wouldn't act like this. If blizzard decided to do something over the line in SC2 I'd probably do the same thing. I'd prob keep playing though b/c I don't have to pay them more money. | ||
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blitzkrieger
United States512 Posts
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/101904-Microsoft-Twitter-Zings-Activision-Over-PC-Gaming Usually escapist sucks but they do have important gaming news sometimes and <3 Yahtzee FINALLY SotG podcast loads.... buh bye | ||
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Blackalpha
United Kingdom80 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Very informative and well documented. Thank you very much OP. I'm even more disgusted by Kotick, and will keep boycotting SC2. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Perscienter
957 Posts
This forums are moderated and even they are full of non-sense. | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
If activision blizzard were to be the pioneer of gaming i cant forsee much future in it where the element of fun is replaced with 'money'. | ||
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s0ldierofortune
United States23 Posts
He isn't some evil tyrant out to destroy fun for everyone. He was hired to to a job and is doing it...and quite well. While what he is doing seems shitty, if he fails he will be removed and someone else will take his place. He doesn't care what you think about him, he only cares what the board thinks, the shareholders think and what the balance sheet is showing. What does he care if you boycott the game- 100 other people aren't. As long as people are paying for the extra stuff, what incentive does the company have to remove it. If your unhappy but you still buy it nothing will change. Awful? Yes, but that is what billions of dollars will do to any industry. The best companies still are and always will be, the ones that only want/need enough money to get by, you will find that they listen to their community and care about their fans. Coming from a small town, run by Mom & Pop stores I see this firsthand. Not enough cash, no big deal just pay us next time you come in...try doing that at any corporate run store. Anyone who's ever worked for a company with a "corporate" should realize that they care less about the employees as much as they do the profits- they can always hire new people. Tl;DR Don't blame corporations - blame money. Kotick is just doing his job. | ||
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