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DarkShadowz
Sweden321 Posts
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Perscienter
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He isn't some evil tyrant out to destroy wealth for everyone. He was hired to to a job and is doing it...and quite well. While what he is doing seems shitty, if he fails he will be removed and someone else will take his place. He doesn't care what you think about him, he only cares if the party elects him, the indstrualists think and what the balance sheet is showing. What does he care if you boycott the the polls- a few million other people aren't. As long as people are voting for the extra stuff, what incentive does the NSDAP have to remove it. If your unhappy but you still vote for it nothing will change. Awful? Yes, but that is what billions of dollars will do to any republic. The best governments still are and always will be, the ones that only want/need enough money to get by, you will find that they listen to their community and care about their voters. Coming from a small town, run by Mom & Pop stores I see this firsthand. Not enough cash, no big deal just pay us next time you come in...try doing that at any fascist run government. Anyone who's ever worked for a government with a "fascist dictatorship" should realize that they care less about the employees as much as they do the profits- they can always hire new people. Tl;DR Don't blame governments - blame money. You know who is just doing his job. | ||
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RushBoxer!
United States173 Posts
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s0ldierofortune
United States23 Posts
On September 29 2010 00:34 Perscienter wrote: As much as I dislike this, and think that the National Socialist Party may be destroying the core concept of making people's life better (for peoples well-being as opposed to money), people do have to realize that his only job is to make money for the voter and the government stakeholders. He isn't some evil tyrant out to destroy wealth for everyone. He was hired to to a job and is doing it...and quite well. While what he is doing seems shitty, if he fails he will be removed and someone else will take his place. He doesn't care what you think about him, he only cares if the party elects him, the indstrualists think and what the balance sheet is showing. What does he care if you boycott the the polls- a few million other people aren't. As long as people are voting for the extra stuff, what incentive does the NSDAP have to remove it. If your unhappy but you still vote for it nothing will change. Awful? Yes, but that is what billions of dollars will do to any republic. The best governments still are and always will be, the ones that only want/need enough money to get by, you will find that they listen to their community and care about their voters. Coming from a small town, run by Mom & Pop stores I see this firsthand. Not enough cash, no big deal just pay us next time you come in...try doing that at any fascist run government. Anyone who's ever worked for a government with a "fascist dictatorship" should realize that they care less about the employees as much as they do the profits- they can always hire new people. Tl;DR Don't blame governments - blame money. You know who is just doing his job. Not sure what your point is here...just changing the shit I wrote to gov'ts perhaps trying to liken me to a communist or socialist, or just saying the post I made was universal. I actually have no problems with corporations. They give lot's of jobs and can help smaller company's expand, just trying to help poeple realize that they are mad a Kotick for something that can't really be helped, esppecially when people complain but still buy the product. Activision blizzard still makes good games, so who cares if they try to get there moneys worth for them. You might not get the same customer service as a small store, but you can generally get the items a lot cheaper. Small businesses are the best because you get such a personal interaction whith the owner, as a customer or employee. Again, go work for any corporate retail chain, and try having a bad week where you don't make much money, and see how fast management will come down on the store for not meeting quota's. You take the good with the bad I guess. | ||
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228zip
France36 Posts
On September 28 2010 16:10 Red Alert wrote: I'm just going to leave this here. Know your enemy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivendi#2007 Quoted for truth. There's been way too much hate directed at Activision while they have no influence over Blizzard. Kotick, which apparently some believe is the devil himself, is definitely doing his job as he's expected, and he's quite ambitious too. Can't blame him for that. | ||
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Sobba
Sweden576 Posts
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On September 29 2010 02:30 XiGua wrote: Eh, isn't this thread from the beta? Who bumped this? :o You just did....and so did I EDIT: But this thread is still just as relevant now as it was in the beta | ||
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noD
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soultwister
Poland80 Posts
It'll get you money, people are idiots, they'll buy 10th edition of CoD or fucking Tony Hawk shit because your programmers can just sit in a cubical for a year and program some more fancy graphics and effects, but in the end of the day it's just an FPS shooter or whatever Under his direction Activision will never come up with something like Psychonauts or System Shock 2, that takes creativity To ilustrate my point, here's a video: | ||
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Grond
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Helmet EU
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I highly doubt someone as well informed and formal as Mr. Kotick would express such a statement. Who is he trying to please? It makes no sense. | ||
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NoXious90
United Kingdom160 Posts
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Half
United States2554 Posts
Activision seeks to break from of the monopolistic regulations that Microsoft imposes on the X-box, and for them, the best way to do so is invest in PC gaming. And while this shift in interest has caused fiascos like the MW2 dedicated server/pricing uproar, the fact remains that almost every single AA/AAA title Activison has released with the exception of Guitar Hero has received a port to the PC. And while Kotick may be indifferent to gaming as a whole, most Microsoft execs seem to veritably ooze maleficence at PC gaming, literally bashing it at every opportunity. Quoted for truth. There's been way too much hate directed at Activision while they have no influence over Blizzard. Kotick, which apparently some believe is the devil himself, is definitely doing his job as he's expected, and he's quite ambitious too. Can't blame him for that. Vivendi exec literally are not involved in any way what so ever. They are a multimedia mega conglomerate, and I'd be surprised if they could even name more then 8 Activision Blizzard franchises. The only thing that matters at all to them is a few broad, overarching meetings and the end revenue. If there is under performance, there action would be limited to firing executives. How much direct influences Kotick has on Blizzard is questionable, his influence on actual design even more so, but its unarguable that he is going to have an indirect influence on company direction. Morhaime is a rather nice guy though. | ||
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BuzzJuice
United States97 Posts
On September 29 2010 06:02 Half wrote: Personally, I think Activision has done as much good as harm to the PC industry. In the name of profits of course. One of the primary problems the PC has is it never had a representative company to promote and support it. Microsoft actively seems to discourage PC gaming, and has never brought a port on time, nor let a triple A game release on the PC for quite some time. All in the name of profit, because it is in direct competition with Xbox, a platform which is far more profitable for them, being completely monopolized by them. Activision seeks to break from of the monopolistic regulations that Microsoft imposes on the X-box, and for them, the best way to do so is invest in PC gaming. And while this shift in interest has caused fiascos like the MW2 dedicated server/pricing uproar, the fact remains that almost every single AA/AAA title Activison has released with the exception of Guitar Hero has received a port to the PC. I agree. Keep in mind that you can't just treat games as a business model. Games are an art form in their infancy and to treat franchises like cows to milk and forcing people to work on Modern Warfares they don't want to make really doesn't earn a lot of respect from other people. The fact that Activision is still sticking with this formula of releasing sequel after sequel pains me and just shows how a monopoly and the wrong type of leadership can come together to create a mess of trouble. Oh, and Kotick has some balls. The guy goes on and declares that Bungie is theirs and is the last great independent developer. He must have pissed off dozens of people who are in it not for the money but for the love of the medium. In fact, I believe the chief executive of Breach replied to him and said if Bungie really is the last great indie developer, Activision is shit outta luck cause they have taken all the developers and run them to the ground. Lol. The Breach guy even said he would offer a Bobby Kotick model for players to use in multiplayer games. Let me tell you, would LOVE TO SHOOT THAT! | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On September 29 2010 06:09 BuzzJuice wrote: I agree. Keep in mind that you can't just treat games as a business model. Games are an art form in their infancy and to treat franchises like cows to milk and forcing people to work on Modern Warfares they don't want to make really doesn't earn a lot of respect from other people. The fact that Activision is still sticking with this formula of releasing sequel after sequel pains me and just shows how a monopoly and the wrong type of leadership can come together to create a mess of trouble. Oh, and Kotick has some balls. The guy goes on and declares that Bungie is theirs and is the last great independent developer. He must have pissed off dozens of people who are in it not for the money but for the love of the medium. In fact, I believe the chief executive of Breach replied to him and said if Bungie really is the last great indie developer, Activision is shit outta luck cause they have taken all the developers and run them to the ground. Lol. The Breach guy even said he would offer a Bobby Kotick model for players to use in multiplayer games. Let me tell you, would LOVE TO SHOOT THAT! Well, you have to treat games as a business model, because people will buy them and there is huge profit to be made. Regardless of what you or I think about the matter. Games will be treated as an Art form when people treat them as an art form. When the consumer mindlessly consumes MW12, you cant really blame capitalistic for exploiting them. That really goes for blizzard too. As long as Fans continue to demand more from them, continue to scream and cry and bitch when they do stuff like omitting chat channels or forcing Real ID, they will give more. That being said Kotick is a fucking faggot asshat that I would like see shot repeatedly as well T_T. Activision is shit outta luck cause they have taken all the developers and run them to the ground. Yeah, I don't think Activisions business model is sustainable. Chances are its going to crash soon, with long reaching effects on the industry. But that doesn't have me worried. Every single game market crash has been a period of unprecedented growth for the PC market, and the advent of some hugely amazing products (Like Diablo and Fallout) that could never have occurred otherwise. Console gamers can go diaf :3. | ||
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Red Alert
United States119 Posts
On September 29 2010 06:02 Half wrote: Vivendi exec literally are not involved in any way what so ever. They are a multimedia mega conglomerate, and I'd be surprised if they could even name more then 8 Activision Blizzard franchises. The only thing that matters at all to them is a few broad, overarching meetings and the end revenue. If there is under performance, there action would be limited to firing executives. How much direct influences Kotick has on Blizzard is questionable, his influence on actual design even more so, but its unarguable that he is going to have an indirect influence on company direction. Morhaime is a rather nice guy though. this is a little naive to say, don't you think? Do you really think Vivendi bought activision and then said "OK GUYS DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO BLIZZARD WE DON'T CARE". Or do you think that they may be really good at keeping their name out of it? Bottom line is that Kotick's job is to appease Vivendi. If he's not doing what they want, then they'll get rid of him. | ||
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McFoo
United Kingdom180 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + and now they are after your precious vidya games too, hehehehe | ||
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FindingPride
United States1001 Posts
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mavfin
United States52 Posts
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