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On May 24 2010 09:00 Afterhours wrote:
]Do you honestly thing Blizzard would do something malicious to you based on this information? Do you think it wouldnt be illegal? Do you think Blizzard Entertainment doesnt have an HR department that would specifically look out for this kind of malicious activity?
You have to realize that Blizzard is a corporate entity. It's not a person. So no, I don't think "Blizzard" would do something malicious with my information.
Thing is, Blizzard is comprised of individual people. Do I think that a disgruntled employee, maybe just got fired/replaced might sell the data to telemarketers, or data farmers, spamlisters? Hell yea I do. It happens all the time.
FaceBook, the webpage. I would have never expected it to breach anybody's privacy, because as you said, it's clearly illegal. They have already invaded their users' privacy. It's already happened, with one of the companies directly involved. So don't think for one second you are immune because you are dealing with a business entity. If they mess up, they have to pay a paltry fine; they will easily afford this without even missing one cent of it, look at their WoW $ub$cription$. So they just pay a fine, but you lose all sense of privacy, your whole life could be ruined through identity fraud/theft, if the worst thing happened. And it has, with other similar situations.
Again, the HR dep't is just nomenclature. Underneath, it is run by people. People make mistakes. That is fact. They cannot catch everything. I do not want to rely on HOPING that somebody ELSE doesn't fuck up in keeping my private info safe, I'd rather just keep it to myself...Why should you have to rely on somebody else to do that for you? That's why it's called PERSONAL info. It's MINE.
And secondly, who in their right mind would even post that sort of information ON THE INTERNET? (phone number, address, etc.)
Every person who has a facebook page.
That's the problem, isn't it?
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You have to realize that Blizzard is a corporate entity. It's not a person. So no, I don't think "Blizzard" would do something malicious with my information. Thing is, Blizzard is comprised of individual people. Do I think that a disgruntled employee, maybe just got fired/replaced might sell the data to telemarketers, or data farmers, spamlisters? Hell yea I do. It happens all the time. FaceBook, the webpage. I would have never expected it to breach anybody's privacy, because as you said, it's clearly illegal. They have already invaded their users' privacy. It's already happened, with one of the companies directly involved. So don't think for one second you are immune because you are dealing with a business entity. If they mess up, they have to pay a paltry fine; they will easily afford this without even missing one cent of it, look at their WoW $ub$cription$. So they just pay a fine, but you lose all sense of privacy, your whole life could be ruined through identity fraud/theft, if the worst thing happened. And it has, with other similar situations. Again, the HR dep't is just nomenclature. Underneath, it is run by people. People make mistakes. That is fact. They cannot catch everything. I do not want to rely on HOPING that somebody ELSE doesn't fuck up in keeping my private info safe, I'd rather just keep it to myself...Why should you have to rely on somebody else to do that for you? That's why it's called PERSONAL info. It's MINE. Show nested quote +And secondly, who in their right mind would even post that sort of information ON THE INTERNET? (phone number, address, etc.) Every person who has a facebook page. That's the problem, isn't it?
I see your point.
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On May 24 2010 09:11 Afterhours wrote:
The theories about Blizzard invading your Privacy, and then selling that information are absolutely mind-blowing. Mind-blowingly stupid.
See my post that appeared just above yours on this page.
I can't speak for anybody else, but I'm not worried about some corporate shiftiness.
All it takes is one guy who gets greedy to fuck it up for everybody. One guy who gets fired, or needs extra money, or is just generally an asshole.
Don't think this is possible?
...ask Savi0r.
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phone number and name are not going to get your identity stolen FFS..
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No, no. I understand your point now. =P
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I just found this thread on the official forums ( I hope it hasn't been posted yet) and it pretty much strengthens the points you take and also gives some possible answers, notably that chatchannels will probably be available but for a fee. Shouldn't be left out of this discusion imo
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+ Show Spoiler +Seeing as I bought, played and liked almost every single game Blizzard has ever released (even the more obscure stuff like Lost Vikings I+II and Blackthorne) and even have several copies of some games like StarCraft or WarCraft 2+3 and I might’ve been classified as an outright “Blizzard fanboy” right up to the moment where World of Warcraft got released (which I was awaiting for years by the way and had such high expectations for) and a few years later this is particularly hard to do, but I think I will skip their games from now on, let me try to explain why. # More spyware (Blizzard has the right to store, read and pass on every message (chat or voice) you transmit over B.Net 2.0, for security reasons of course) https://us.battle.net/account/creation/tos.xml Q u o t e: Content Screening and Disclosure. We do not, and cannot, pre-screen or monitor all User Content. However, our representatives may monitor and/or record your communications (including without limitation chat text) when you are using the Service or playing a Game, and you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring and recording[. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of privacy concerning the transmission of any User Content, including without limitation chat text or voice communications. We do not assume any responsibility or liability for User Content that is generated by users. We have the right, but not the obligation, in our sole discretion to edit, refuse to post, or remove any User Content. WE ALSO RESERVE THE RIGHT, AT ALL TIMES AND IN OUR SOLE DISCRETION, TO DISCLOSE ANY USER CONTENT AND OTHER INFORMATION (INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION CHAT TEXT, VOICE COMMUNICATIONS, IP ADDRESSES, AND YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION) FOR ANY REASON # More control (Blizzard has the right to any content (redistribute, modify and sell) you transmit or post on the Battle.Net including pictures, sounds and most certainly maps) Q u o t e: User Content. "User Content" means any communications, images, sounds, and all the material and information that you upload or transmit through a Game client or the Service, or that other users upload or transmit, including without limitation any chat text. You hereby grant Blizzard a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, paid-up, non-exclusive, license, including the right to sublicense to third parties, and right to reproduce, fix, adapt, modify, translate, reformat, create derivative works from, manufacture, introduce into circulation, publish, distribute, sell, license, sublicense, transfer, rent, lease, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, or provide access to electronically, broadcast, communicate to the public by telecommunication, display, perform, enter into computer memory, and use and practice such User Content as well as all modified and derivative works thereof. To the extent permitted by applicable laws, you hereby waive any moral rights you may have in any User Content. Basically, once you’ve uploaded something onto the B.Net and if it’s popular they can take your idea, modify it a bit and put it up for money on their own map marketplace. # Map "Marketplace" (no more "free maps", by everyone for everyone like in the first StarCraft or WarCraft 3, they got IG shops you can pay money for 3rd party maps in, and the authors even get A PORTION of the earnings, how generous of you Blizzard) http://kotaku.com/5343006/blizzard-you-may-sell-your-starcraft-2-maps-on-battlenet-eventuallyRemember all of those free Blizzard maps for WarCraft 3, Blizzard made out of customer friendliness and to build up even more of a loyal fanbase? http://classic.battle.net/war3/maps/Well… not anymore… # They’re going to nickle-and-dime people for „features“ like creating Custom Tournaments/Leagues. Wonder why there’s still no chat even though it seems like a simple feature? It’s probably because it might cost something to keep a “Clan” chat-channel or similar open: http://www.incgamers.com/Interviews/190/StarCraftIIDevelopersInterviewed Q u o t e: So what's Battle.net all about and how is it different? The new Battle.net will completely revolutionise the current version, but Blizzard is still looking to making this experience free for anyone buying StarCraft II or future games that use Battle.net. One idea which has been discussed in different iterations is microtransactions, meaning the service is free, but added value services like starting a custom tournament, league, or the like would cost a small amount of money. # Facebook like "ID-page" so you can "distinguish" yourself, includes your Real Name and mail address if you put it in for Payment Details, which is awesome for Phishers, Hackers and Spammers alike... # Actual Facebook integration, personally I don’t want a “platform” to be bundled with the games I want to play, that I’m being forced to use and I don’t need Stats about how often and how long I’ve been to the toilet, I just want separate chat channels with a simple friends list and simple /invite /ignore /add /remove features like back in the day to be able to play the game and that’s about it… In general, be wary of marketing people using the word “platform” to describe something… almost nothing good came of it, X-Box Live, Steam, Facebook Platform etc. are described as “platforms” and they always come with additional DRM, microtransactions and often even subscription fees. http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24732 Q u o t e: "There is no better opportunity to launch this strategic initiative than through the launch of StarCraft II," said Kotick on the call. "The Battle.net platform is an investment in the future of gaming, and an opportunity that we are uniquely positioned to capitalize on." - Bobby Kotick # More ads (thanks to contract with Massive - company for commercials owned by Microsoft), they also collect your IP and "standard information" http://community.microsoftadvertising.com/blogs/analytics/archive/2009/08/25/massive-s-in-game-advertising-season-kick-off.aspx Q u o t e: Through an agreement with Blizzard Entertainment, Massive is the exclusive advertising service provider for the World of Warcraft community web sites as well as the Battle.net online gaming service. A newly redesigned Battle.net platform will launch with StarCraft II in 2010, for which Massive will also be the exclusive advertising service provider. # No LAN or playing with friends anymore, everyone HAS to be logged in to the great Overlord hivemind B.Net 2.0 and every person HAS to have a key of the game (and every following Add-On) to be able to play with friends or family. Remember those times when a friend came over and you played a few rounds of StarCraft over LAN or you tried to introduce someone, that wasn’t really interested/hadn’t played the game before to it the same way and Blizzard didn’t say or do anything to prevent that? Well not anymore… cause to be able to do that you’ll have to have bought all the products and gone through a lengthy process of creating a B.Net 2.0 Account and Register the keys to it… # Selling one game as a 3-parter (if the first part costs 60$/60€... what do you think the so-called "Expansions" will cost? If you think they’re below 40$/€ you're out of your mind xD) To play the full multiplayer (with all units and buildings etc.) and play competitively you will have to buy all 3 and register all 3 CD-Keys. http://www.starcraft2.com/faq.xml Q u o t e: If I buy StarCraft II but don't buy any of the expansion sets, will I still be able to play online? Yes. This will work similarly to Warcraft III and the original StarCraft, which maintained separate online gaming lobbies and ladders for expansion set players and players with the base Warcraft III or StarCraft. How will the expansion sets impact multiplayer gameplay? The expansion sets will add new content to each race for use in multiplayer matches. This could include additions such as new units, abilities, and structures, along with new maps and Battle.net updates. # Achievements (yay, thanks for keeping track of how awesome I am Blizzard... everyone's been eagerly awaiting those on the PC) As much as I might actually like the actual game and want to pay for it, this is just too much (marketing) crap to sift through, to be able to enjoy the good parts. Thanks for all the good gaming experiences you’ve delivered in the past Blizzard and good luck.
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On May 24 2010 09:14 cartoon]x wrote:
phone number and name are not going to get your identity stolen FFS..
I mentioned a lot more than a phone number and a name, but since you seem to have only taken from context the parts that suit your side of the argument, I'll reiterate.
How about telephone number, IP address, home address, employee information, your interests, likes, dislikes, who your friends and family are and where they live, along with pictures of you so they can model themselves after you, if they really wanted to do some impossible doppelganger shit? I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find the answers to every single security question on websites from facebook. Mother's maiden name? Easy. First elementary school? Done. Pet's name? Birthday? Place you were born? Check, check, and check.
It's not as hard as you think, if you know what you're looking for.
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I'm glad I'm also not the only one who dislikes the privacy aspect. Hell, I don't even like that people on my friend's list can see my actual name. If I wanted to give somebody my actual name, I would.
I wont be concerned about adding people to my flist because they'll see my name, but it's not exactly something I'm glad they have either.
One of my biggest little complaints about the game is a lack of keyboard scrolling ability. My replay list is large, it sure would be nice being able to hit the down arrow to look at each individual game to find the one I want instead of having to click each one individually. Seriously, isn't that standard with every game in the history of time that the simple arrow keys work?
I agree with the overwhelming majority of the things posted. I will reserve my rage for after the beta is brought back up or release, as I'm sure Blizzard at least knows they fucked up some things which they can correct in time.
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On May 24 2010 09:17 coma wrote:I just found this thread on the official forums ( I hope it hasn't been posted yet) and it pretty much strengthens the points you take and also gives some possible answers, notably that chatchannels will probably be available but for a fee. Shouldn't be left out of this discusion imo Link
Here's the part that is really the crux of what I am saying.
"You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of privacy concerning the transmission of any User Content, including without limitation chat text or voice communications. We do not assume any responsibility or liability for User Content that is generated by users. We have the right, but not the obligation, in our sole discretion to edit, refuse to post, or remove any User Content. WE ALSO RESERVE THE RIGHT, AT ALL TIMES AND IN OUR SOLE DISCRETION, TO DISCLOSE ANY USER CONTENT AND OTHER INFORMATION (INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION CHAT TEXT, VOICE COMMUNICATIONS, IP ADDRESSES, AND YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION) FOR ANY REASON"
Read that carefully. Twice. Does that even seem legal to you? Would you agree to that? That is absolutely fucking LUDICROUS.
Essentially, they are saying that they can do, whatever the fuck they want with your personal info, and even your voice chat recording? Not only do they have a "right" to do this, but have NO OBLIGATION to do as you request if it is contrary to what they want to do with it. Does THAT sound legal? Do you really want somebody going through all your voice chats, chat logs, and personal info? Maybe we have nothing to hide, but that's fucking creepy.
Click the page Coma linked to be even more apalled at how much of a breach of privacy and ethics Blizzard is getting into here. It's seriously disturbing.
Thank you Coma for posting that. That really seals the deal on how bad this is getting.
I hadn't seen this posted before, but I had read snippets of that TOS. Now that I see more of it condensed onto one page, I'm really hesitant to do anything but buy starcraft with fucking cash, in store, and make a fake facebook profile. Seriously. This is DISTURBING.
[Take Savi0r out of jail and throw Blizzard in, shit! That's bad.]
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I'm totally on board with this. Ultimately, if you want to sell something, you need to make it the way your customers want it. Gameplay isn't perfect but they're working on it and it's hard to come to any consensus on how we want the game to be played. However, BNET 2.0 is almost universally unpopular and nobody wanted wow achievements or facebook crap. We want a solid, stable, fair ladder system, chat channels, a clan system, and LAN. These things are all being forgone in favor of things NOBODY ACTUALLY WANTS. From a business standpoint, blizzard are shooting themselves in the foot by being unresponsive to the demands of the people who will be buying the game. Personally, I'd be willing to wait a lot longer for the game to be released if they would just add back in all of the important bnet 1.0 features to 2.0.
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My only argument to that is for Death Threats, Suicide claims, etc made online in chat. Agreeing to this gives Blizzard permission to share your information with local authorities so that they may physically check up on you.
But still, crazy shit...
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make tons of money off of you. SELL your potential consumer worth to some other company.
Wait whaT? bnet wouldnt try to do that would they?
So I have played since i got the beta.
With its inherent issues of balance and cesspool of idiots that flock to this game from wow, wc3, Supreme commander, Dawn of war 2, Modern warfare, sc source, Halo.
Well regardless, ALOT of people will get this game,
I mean even with bnet staying as it is, could you resist not buying it? say i get top 1 diamond divison 555. Wont i still be challenged to play further?
Say you dont buy sc2. Its like wow release all over again, you either buy into the fad waste 90 dollars or watch what is so special about it on youtube.
Considering that sc2 is the ONLY title worth getting for years to come.
Should I just quit because of shitty interface? Rather than playing into this whole 1on1 fad go do something constructive? I hit lower plat, reset came buggy patch and now that i cant play there is this whole. Should i waste my time with this issue popping up.
Because seriously, no channels? no guilds? This game went from OMFG to meeh within the course of 24 hours. ;/
I know TL has an irc, i know i can request a practice partner from the thread but still. No guild? ;(
I dont know man i could do soo much else with my life than waste it away at a game that dosnt even have what i would want as standard in any game.
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On May 24 2010 09:25 Afterhours wrote:
My only argument to that is for Death Threats, Suicide claims, etc made online in chat. Agreeing to this gives Blizzard permission to share your information with local authorities so that they may physically check up on you.
But still, crazy shit...
The thing about that is that companies are already required by law to cooperate with a police investigation or face obstruction of justice charges, child endangerment if the person is under 18 (or minor age, in whatever country). They do not need your permission for this.
That is a constant for which needs be made no exception. Just by the fact of the existence of that in the Blizz ToS means that they intend something quite more than complying with the law.
I agree with you, completely, on those exceptions. I just want to point out that they are already LAW, and so standard that anything more than that (i.e. what you see posted in that link) is a clear breach of privacy and intent to do something more, perhaps MUCH more than protect the innocent from serious harm.
I think I've made my point.
The word of the day, TL.net, is datamining.
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I'm seriously annoyed with many aspects of the new b.net, most of all the crashes. Obviously these kinds of technical bugs happen in beta however, and its something we have to put up with. im 99% sure all this crap will not be around by the next phase of beta, let alone live.
As for the direction of B.net 2.0 in general? Yea there are a lot disgustingly corporate decisions being thrown at us. This is an attempt to make SC as socially cohesive as World of Warcraft, which is inherently unlikely given the nature of RTS vs MMORPG. Blizzard is thinking that if they can make the game more of a social experience where players have long friends lists and play together frequently, it will provide opportunities to cash in on all this single player expansion bs, and perhaps even provide some way of charging a monthly fee way down the road. That is what leads Bliz to attempt to put faces on the player accounts, make them real people rather than some guy you don't know on the internet. I find this somewhat disturbing for reasons I'm not entirely able to articulate. But this leads to the question: Does any of this actually matter?
A lot of these long complaining posts seem to be claiming chat rooms, clan systems, and better friends lists are really important. In the same breathe, the poster goes on a long rant about how stupid facebook and easy to attain achievements are. well, is social cohesion important for sc2 or not? I think the answer is person to person. Myself, I play a LOT of SC2, and could care less about chat channels or clans (unless they have a purpose, such as sponsored teams, which are organized outside of b.net anyway). I never made any friends playing war3, and i don't expect to in sc2 for the most part. I play solo ladder, that's why I play B.net. But I've had a enough friends start playing sc2 beta, war3, sc1, ect. to know that most of them don't tend to stick around. RTS can be frustrating and forces you to be brutally honest with your own abilities at the game. It simply does not offer what most gamers are looking for in a game long term. Too competitive for those not drawn to competition, and too competitive for those with fragile egos and "just want to log in and rape" (a direct quote from my friend that epitomizes most competitive gamers imo).
Bliz is simply working on a way to make players stick around, even after buying a copy of the game. There is only so much money you can get from selling a game copy once, while it is becoming apparent through WoW and esports ect. that there is a growing market for continued consumerism and popularity of a given game.
All these complaints about the match making system are evidence of players that wont make it a year. No the match making isn't perfect, but has most to do with the the lack of players within the beta. That being said, many posters are acting is if they were 2300 plat before the patch, sick of being matched against noobs. I hate to be the guy to break it to you, but if your still rank 1 copper/silver/gold...its because your not playing good enough to be promoted, otherwise you would win 6 games in a row and walla..platinum (now diamond). Its that simple, there really isnt any voodoo going on here. As someone who's account got reset on multiple occasions a few patches ago, I got stuck in gold a few times by getting dropped (once I got cheesed pretty hard on desert oasis). It took 3-4 games of winning usally to be promoted back into plat, and before i knew it i would be around 1700-1800 plat, just like i was before the reset. In short the match making system is not that broken, and the rating of someone is a good indication as to how they match up overall. (the top rated players before the ladder reset consisted of players like Idra and Gretorp). As for an overall ranking system? well that would essentially be rating, and it would be nice if it were more accessible to look up, but I really don't see why most players would take this to heart, given that it starts to become a less reliable mesurment of skill toward the top. It tends to have more to do with those who bother playing. Top players tend to do a lot of customs against other top players between tournaments. Rank 1 ladder is sure to be a good player...but not necessarily even close to the best sc2 currently. As for those under the top, as I said, rating gives a good general idea how you size up vs the overall player pool.
To recap, yes I agree that 2.0 is a bit silly all around. But I disagree that it damages the game in any substantive way. All around bitching about B.net 2.0 is like effectively the same thing as bitching about the internet age, or raging against facebook. Really? who cares. It doesn't ultimately effect anyone's ability to play the game.
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I love how in the bnet forums someone said only quality maps would cost money. Which is fine, cuz you know how much i love playing shitty unpopular maps.
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i hate how the achievement messages last so long. they shouldnt last more than 1 second. is there a way to turn it off?
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On May 24 2010 09:32 D3lta wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm seriously annoyed with many aspects of the new b.net, most of all the crashes. Obviously these kinds of technical bugs happen in beta however, and its something we have to put up with. im 99% sure all this crap will not be around by the next phase of beta, let alone live.
As for the direction of B.net 2.0 in general? Yea there are a lot disgustingly corporate decisions being thrown at us. This is an attempt to make SC as socially cohesive as World of Warcraft, which is inherently unlikely given the nature of RTS vs MMORPG. Blizzard is thinking that if they can make the game more of a social experience where players have long friends lists and play together frequently, it will provide opportunities to cash in on all this single player expansion bs, and perhaps even provide some way of charging a monthly fee way down the road. That is what leads Bliz to attempt to put faces on the player accounts, make them real people rather than some guy you don't know on the internet. I find this somewhat disturbing for reasons I'm not entirely able to articulate. But this leads to the question: Does any of this actually matter?
A lot of these long complaining posts seem to be claiming chat rooms, clan systems, and better friends lists are really important. In the same breathe, the poster goes on a long rant about how stupid facebook and easy to attain achievements are. well, is social cohesion important for sc2 or not? I think the answer is person to person. Myself, I play a LOT of SC2, and could care less about chat channels or clans (unless they have a purpose, such as sponsored teams, which are organized outside of b.net anyway). I never made any friends playing war3, and i don't expect to in sc2 for the most part. I play solo ladder, that's why I play B.net. But I've had a enough friends start playing sc2 beta, war3, sc1, ect. to know that most of them don't tend to stick around. RTS can be frustrating and forces you to be brutally honest with your own abilities at the game. It simply does not offer what most gamers are looking for in a game long term. Too competitive for those not drawn to competition, and too competitive for those with fragile egos and "just want to log in and rape" (a direct quote from my friend that epitomizes most competitive gamers imo).
Bliz is simply working on a way to make players stick around, even after buying a copy of the game. There is only so much money you can get from selling a game copy once, while it is becoming apparent through WoW and esports ect. that there is a growing market for continued consumerism and popularity of a given game.
All these complaints about the match making system are evidence of players that wont make it a year. No the match making isn't perfect, but has most to do with the the lack of players within the beta. That being said, many posters are acting is if they were 2300 plat before the patch, sick of being matched against noobs. I hate to be the guy to break it to you, but if your still rank 1 copper/silver/gold...its because your not playing good enough to be promoted, otherwise you would win 6 games in a row and walla..platinum (now diamond). Its that simple, there really isnt any voodoo going on here. As someone who's account got reset on multiple occasions a few patches ago, I got stuck in gold a few times by getting dropped (once I got cheesed pretty hard on desert oasis). It took 3-4 games of winning usally to be promoted back into plat, and before i knew it i would be around 1700-1800 plat, just like i was before the reset. In short the match making system is not that broken, and the rating of someone is a good indication as to how they match up overall. (the top rated players before the ladder reset consisted of players like Idra and Gretorp). As for an overall ranking system? well that would essentially be rating, and it would be nice if it were more accessible to look up, but I really don't see why most players would take this to heart, given that it starts to become a less reliable mesurment of skill toward the top. It tends to have more to do with those who bother playing. Top players tend to do a lot of customs against other top players between tournaments. Rank 1 ladder is sure to be a good player...but not necessarily even close to the best sc2 currently. As for those under the top, as I said, rating gives a good general idea how you size up vs the overall player pool.
To recap, yes I agree that 2.0 is a bit silly all around. But I disagree that it damages the game in any substantive way. All around bitching about B.net 2.0 is like effectively the same thing as bitching about the internet age, or raging against facebook. Really? who cares. It doesn't ultimately effect anyone's ability to play the game.
I recognize that this is a very long post and probably took a while to type out. So you probably haven't been following the most recent posts in this thread?
I think you are right, most of that is not really enough to "break" the game for people.
But I strongly urge you to check out the last 2-3 pages of this thread. There are severe privacy issues linked with facebook integration, and the Bnet terms of service in general...and THAT is enough to make me, somebody who has played Blizzard games for the last two and a half DECADES, seriously reconsider doing business with them. I think EVERYBODY should read the link that Coma posted.
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On May 24 2010 09:35 Two_DoWn wrote:
I love how in the bnet forums someone said only quality maps would cost money. Which is fine, cuz you know how much i love playing shitty unpopular maps.
This made me laugh way too hard.
It will be interesting to see what type of quality maps that individuals make get made premium, and what % of sales go to the authors. I don't imagine it will be much, which is fairly absurd.
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