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Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
May 13 2010 22:44 GMT
#961
Finally decreased the size of Thors!! Now we just need them to decrease size of Ultralisks to make them more viable. (LOL, useful ultralisks, i make myself laugh)
♞
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
May 13 2010 22:44 GMT
#962
On May 14 2010 07:43 Roniii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 07:34 Bluerain wrote:
On May 14 2010 05:56 iEchoic wrote:
People crying about a Zerg and Protoss nerf are insane, Z and P win every single tournament out there, T is definitely behind at the moment, save your crying for something more important.

The roach nerf is large but definitely necessary. It will force Zerg to actually compose armies other than mass roaches.


maybe T lose cus the T players are worse players? or should we balance the races so that an equal amount of races win tournaments, lol ur the first one ive ever called retarded


how do you know that T players are worse?


T race is harder to master - it's not worse than the other races at all IMHO....

Listen to what Tester (ex-SCBW-pro, then eStro Coach, now SC2-pro) said: Terran is the strongest race - wait until some very good players start figuring out Terran and you won't be able to beat them.

exactly my opinion.
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
May 13 2010 22:44 GMT
#963
damn, I cannon rush every 2v2 game, this patch makes me want to die
MrBlonde
Profile Joined April 2010
United States11 Posts
May 13 2010 22:45 GMT
#964
But.....I still am hoping for that damned void Ray nerf. God I hate those things.
The House Always Wins
mamelouk
Profile Joined April 2010
France135 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 22:48:46
May 13 2010 22:48 GMT
#965
Some Blizzard employee response to all of you guys:

As we mentioned in the original post, all changes we have planned are not in yet and we have been trying to be careful about layering them in and watching the results closely. This patch is no different and we have more coming down the pipe before much longer. StarCraft II is like an onion with many layers, but instead of peeling the layers, we're adding them in like paper mâché only without the messy flour paste and with a slightly less predictable outcome.


http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24702406287&sid=5000&pageNo=7

don't know if my message will be noticed in a 50 pages conversation thou
...Uniden
Roniii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 22:49:19
May 13 2010 22:48 GMT
#966
On May 14 2010 07:44 kickinhead wrote:


how do you know that T players are worse?


T race is harder to master - it's not worse than the other races at all IMHO....

Listen to what Tester (ex-SCBW-pro, then eStro Coach, now SC2-pro) said: Terran is the strongest race - wait until some very good players start figuring out Terran and you won't be able to beat them.

exactly my opinion.


Yeah I watched the interview and it was interesting. I also tend to agree I just don't agree with the statement that T are worse players. I was just trying to see if he had some sort of reason.

id say if the race is hard to master the people using it successfully are actually better players no?
you think as i do
RAZROK
Profile Joined March 2010
Latvia49 Posts
May 13 2010 22:49 GMT
#967
I'm... I'm shocked... I dont even want to start my sc2 up again...Guess what... im zerg...
You will not win because I will not lose!
ganil
Profile Joined August 2009
253 Posts
May 13 2010 22:50 GMT
#968
On May 14 2010 07:44 kickinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 07:43 Roniii wrote:
On May 14 2010 07:34 Bluerain wrote:
On May 14 2010 05:56 iEchoic wrote:
People crying about a Zerg and Protoss nerf are insane, Z and P win every single tournament out there, T is definitely behind at the moment, save your crying for something more important.

The roach nerf is large but definitely necessary. It will force Zerg to actually compose armies other than mass roaches.


maybe T lose cus the T players are worse players? or should we balance the races so that an equal amount of races win tournaments, lol ur the first one ive ever called retarded


how do you know that T players are worse?


T race is harder to master - it's not worse than the other races at all IMHO....

Listen to what Tester (ex-SCBW-pro, then eStro Coach, now SC2-pro) said: Terran is the strongest race - wait until some very good players start figuring out Terran and you won't be able to beat them.

exactly my opinion.


People who say that a race is balanced but that nobody is able to play it good enough to prove it makes no sense at all =/.
Roniii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States289 Posts
May 13 2010 22:50 GMT
#969
On May 14 2010 07:49 RAZROK wrote:
I'm... I'm shocked... I dont even want to start my sc2 up again...Guess what... im zerg...

yes i feel for you

I for one cant wait to get home and start massing tiny thors
you think as i do
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
May 13 2010 22:52 GMT
#970
On May 14 2010 07:00 ret wrote:
It's going to be incredibly hard to mold this mess they've made into something playable come july 27...not to mention all the other non-gameplay issues....AHHHHHH!

dont think the roach nerf is so bad. But zerg has no end game options :=<


Do they really have to? It's the single player mode that has to be finished by the release date, and the multiplayer they can just keep patching.
Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
May 13 2010 22:53 GMT
#971
On May 14 2010 06:49 iEchoic wrote:
All the people moaning about this patch are destroying their own and the site's credibility.

Terran gets smoked in almost every single tournament out there. Terran wins the least share of matches on BNet. And you're complaining about a very minor change to Terran and Protoss? Given, the Zerg change is large, but if it doesn't pan out, they can change things. It's a beta - and Zerg is certainly powerful enough to warrant a large change.

Jesus, give it a rest, absolutely pathetic. This patch is well-needed and more will probably come in the future.


game was alrdy balanced, terran players jus needed to catch up in skill ...
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
May 13 2010 22:54 GMT
#972
I'm totally shocked about the roach supply nerf. Many people were insisting that it was necessary a few patches ago, but it seems like previous nerfs did the job just fine. The other changes seem fine, as they won't make too big of an impact. I can't wait to try out the new thors. That change probably won't impact the pro scene too much,since pros can position their army so that thors don't fuck around too much and not block their thors between buildings and such.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 22:54:32
May 13 2010 22:54 GMT
#973
On May 14 2010 07:49 RAZROK wrote:
I'm... I'm shocked... I dont even want to start my sc2 up again...Guess what... im zerg...


Why do people like this even get beta if you're just going to whine and bitch at the first sign of trouble. Some zerg just raped Nony on his stream with roaches/hydra/corrupters. Change shit up ffs. You can still get plenty of roaches. If you were reliant upon roaches to win all your games then that speaks for itself.

More on point, the new thor size is awesome and meshes better with my army. I'm bummed about the lack of league reset tho .
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
May 13 2010 22:54 GMT
#974
On May 14 2010 07:52 Random() wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 07:00 ret wrote:
It's going to be incredibly hard to mold this mess they've made into something playable come july 27...not to mention all the other non-gameplay issues....AHHHHHH!

dont think the roach nerf is so bad. But zerg has no end game options :=<


Do they really have to? It's the single player mode that has to be finished by the release date, and the multiplayer they can just keep patching.


OR - They get their head out of their asses and start working some nightshifts! ^^'


https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
May 13 2010 22:56 GMT
#975
On May 14 2010 07:48 mamelouk wrote:
Some Blizzard employee response to all of you guys:

Show nested quote +
As we mentioned in the original post, all changes we have planned are not in yet and we have been trying to be careful about layering them in and watching the results closely. This patch is no different and we have more coming down the pipe before much longer. StarCraft II is like an onion with many layers, but instead of peeling the layers, we're adding them in like paper mâché only without the messy flour paste and with a slightly less predictable outcome.


http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24702406287&sid=5000&pageNo=7

don't know if my message will be noticed in a 50 pages conversation thou

I wonder... are they really watching the results closely? *cough* corrupter's new ability *cough*

I also love their analogy because of how accurate it is.

"Never looking back at previous changes, but instead, add changes over the new changes"
( ・´ー・`)
Perkins1752
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany214 Posts
May 13 2010 22:57 GMT
#976
On May 14 2010 07:50 ganil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 07:44 kickinhead wrote:
On May 14 2010 07:43 Roniii wrote:
On May 14 2010 07:34 Bluerain wrote:
On May 14 2010 05:56 iEchoic wrote:
People crying about a Zerg and Protoss nerf are insane, Z and P win every single tournament out there, T is definitely behind at the moment, save your crying for something more important.

The roach nerf is large but definitely necessary. It will force Zerg to actually compose armies other than mass roaches.


maybe T lose cus the T players are worse players? or should we balance the races so that an equal amount of races win tournaments, lol ur the first one ive ever called retarded


how do you know that T players are worse?


T race is harder to master - it's not worse than the other races at all IMHO....

Listen to what Tester (ex-SCBW-pro, then eStro Coach, now SC2-pro) said: Terran is the strongest race - wait until some very good players start figuring out Terran and you won't be able to beat them.

exactly my opinion.


People who say that a race is balanced but that nobody is able to play it good enough to prove it makes no sense at all =/.


Until Boxer kicked the shit out of everyone, Terran was known to be rather weak.
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
May 13 2010 22:59 GMT
#977
On May 14 2010 07:56 prototype. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 07:48 mamelouk wrote:
Some Blizzard employee response to all of you guys:

As we mentioned in the original post, all changes we have planned are not in yet and we have been trying to be careful about layering them in and watching the results closely. This patch is no different and we have more coming down the pipe before much longer. StarCraft II is like an onion with many layers, but instead of peeling the layers, we're adding them in like paper mâché only without the messy flour paste and with a slightly less predictable outcome.


http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24702406287&sid=5000&pageNo=7

don't know if my message will be noticed in a 50 pages conversation thou

I wonder... are they really watching the results closely? *cough* corrupter's new ability *cough*

I also love their analogy because of how accurate it is.

"Never looking back at previous changes, but instead, add changes over the new changes"


It's a hot, steaming mess.... ^^'

But at least, it goes in the right direction most of the times, but it's still a such long way to go!

They really have to push out some big patches and care more about gameplay-stuff, rather than just balance-issues... I'm talking about moving-attack, highground-debate, hardcounter-system, triad of doom etc.
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
sk`
Profile Joined November 2008
Japan442 Posts
May 13 2010 23:01 GMT
#978
I wish I could understand why I play the bugs... I mean, nerf after nerf after nerf... every time it's like, golly, T sure sounds fun. Bugs are cool but between all the nerfs recently, especially the crawler raping... this are pointless.

Thankfully, largely out of principle, I was never a big roach abuser; however, this is going to ass-fuck Z in the late game. I was barely winning my near-200 fights which had a lot of Roachs as meat shields. Now I can have half that many!? Really Bliz? Really? Fucking make Marauders hit air already so everyone can just mass them and play T because you haven't raped Z or P enough yet nor is T army composition the always just one thing enough yet... yeah. SC2, years down the line, is going to be the most stale RTS of all time.

High fives all around.
www.pureesports.com
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 23:03:12
May 13 2010 23:02 GMT
#979
For the people saying Terran players just have less skill:

Go watch the series between DeMuslim and Nazgul. They kept switching off terran and protoss and whoever was terran lost every single game. So can you please let that incorrect and stupid argument die?

Demuslim replays

Terran is behind the other two races at high levels and arguing otherwise is just denying reality.
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
Lollersauce
Profile Joined April 2010
United States357 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 23:03:51
May 13 2010 23:03 GMT
#980
Yeah, can we say the corruptor's new ability is even more situational than the previous one?

The old corruption actually let the corruptor do something else than kill colossi...
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