Whatever the case, I look forward to seeing the results from the people who decide to go. Oh and for the people complaining about the price, it's fair in that they're taking about $80 a day for food, lodging and their entire day...
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
Whatever the case, I look forward to seeing the results from the people who decide to go. Oh and for the people complaining about the price, it's fair in that they're taking about $80 a day for food, lodging and their entire day... | ||
Kegs.aus
Australia133 Posts
IT WAS GEOFF WITH THE CANDLESTICK IN THE DINING ROOM!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
Toolshed
337 Posts
On May 11 2010 23:55 Kegs.aus wrote: I hope this doesnt turn into a real life game of CLUEDO!!!! IT WAS GEOFF WITH THE CANDLESTICK IN THE DINING ROOM!!!!!!!!!!!!! Uham, that'd be something I would easily pay 250$ for! On a serious note, I don't see why anyone would pay so much money (you could buy 5 copies of SC2 for same money) to get some informations you can grab in no time via the internet for free. Being teached does NOT mean that you will get better. I also don't think that it is possible to establish a progamerlike surrounding when machine, inka or Incontrol are around. I mean ... you guys are way to funny to be serious. Good luck anyway with this project | ||
RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On May 12 2010 00:06 Toolshed wrote: Uham, that'd be something I would easily pay 250$ for! On a serious note, I don't see why anyone would pay so much money (you could buy 5 copies of SC2 for same money) to get some informations you can grab in no time via the internet for free. Being teached does NOT mean that you will get better. I also don't think that it is possible to establish a progamerlike surrounding when machine, inka or Incontrol are around. I mean ... you guys are way to funny to be serious. Good luck anyway with this project In the defense of this thread, gosucoaching is actually quite good, and provided that the pupil has some level of competence in SC2 and other RTS games, gosu can pretty much teach anyone to be better. | ||
Fantus
United States14 Posts
On May 11 2010 23:54 JinMaikeul wrote: I'm curious to see how much a person could possibly improve in only 3 days. It seems like it'd be way too short to acheive any meaningful performance gains. Also I find it odd that you're advertising and running this camp before the game is even finalized and released. For the reasons stated above, you'll have to understand why I have trouble taking this seriously, at least as a training program. Seems more like Space Camp to me.. Whatever the case, I look forward to seeing the results from the people who decide to go. Oh and for the people complaining about the price, it's fair in that they're taking about $80 a day for food, lodging and their entire day... To be fair, Machine made me a high bronze rated player to a mid platinum player in 2 hours. If you understand the game, and hit a wall on how to get better, they can help you through that. | ||
Psyonic_Reaver
United States4336 Posts
On May 11 2010 22:24 RoosterSamurai wrote: "We will provide some meals" Is too vague for me lol. Overall it sounds to me like this camp, overall, would wind up costing around $500-750 I've already posted that we are providing ALL meals. PLEASE read responses made by those who will be at the event. | ||
Psyonic_Reaver
United States4336 Posts
On May 11 2010 22:03 Z-R0E wrote: Don't have a quote to answer #3. I'm assuming it's up to typical male standards, but would likely be appalling to most females. I actually have the house in my name, and I make sure it's up to female standards. I do have a girlfriend that I have to impress. ^^ (Insert Incontrol quip here: "LOOK GUYZ PSYONIC HAZ GIRLFRIEND!") | ||
Neak
United Kingdom124 Posts
On May 11 2010 23:42 jamesr12 wrote: I'd say its worth it if you live in the area and dont have to buy a plane ticket, it would be a fun weekend Indeed | ||
Toast216
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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shape
United States119 Posts
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Spidermonkey
United States251 Posts
On May 12 2010 00:37 Toast216 wrote: Didn't get time to read the entire thread, but what happens if the beta stops before this? Refund, though plane tickets are at your own risk. Buy refundable I guess. I'm actually planning on signing up for some Gosu Training after launch, I would do it before but I'm worried I would lose to much in the time between Beta Closing and Launch. | ||
Molkovien
Denmark59 Posts
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On May 12 2010 00:25 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: I've already posted that we are providing ALL meals. PLEASE read responses made by those who will be at the event. I already said in my post that i'm not searching through 20 pages of responses. That is info that should be in post #1 | ||
Psyonic_Reaver
United States4336 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:46 Ballistixz wrote: but the real question is will it be WORTH the price tag there asking for? basically the stuff they will teach u ins things you can easily learn yourself on your own time. after all how do u think THEY learned? you think some of these top players learned SC from going to countless training camps? no they learned on there own time and with there own skill and you can do the same.. Or what about Basketball? Who needs coaches. I can stand in the court and shoot the ball all day. I'll figure it out in my own time. I mean, it's not like there are coaches in the NBA. All those players are professionals that don't need help anymore to figure out what they lack in their game. Or what about those StarCraft: BroodWar Korean gamers? They don't need coaches. Flash is already the best, what else is there to learn or prepare for? I grew up on a 70 acre horse ranch. My dad was a horseback riding teacher. People would pay to ride a horse properly. Why didn't they just get a horse and just learn how to ride it? You can basically learn yourself on your own time, right? In reality. Many people can't learn things on their own about some things. Some have natural talent for certain things and that is why there are super stars/geniuses but then you have those that just work hard AND learn from the best in any way possible. I know I was terrible at SC:BW until I started getting help from the EG guys. Even you Ballistixz. I'm sure there are things you have no idea how to do and probably don't want to put in the time to learn on your own. For example: What if you wanted to learn how to write HTML? Pretend you're back in the early days of computing and there were no guides or coaches for HTML. What if all the guides you could find were just like our SC2 forums here on TL? Rampant OP's from people with 3 posts claiming X or Y unit is imbalance. If there was a tutor that said: "Hey, for $5 I can teach basic HTML coding." Would you jump at the chance or tell him to fuck off because he's only out to get your money and isn't really interested in helping you. I worked on a dude ranch during my last year of High School. You would get some of these rich folks that thought they knew how to ride horses and they would bounce around all over the place, endangering themselves and the horse, due to their real lack of ability to ride the horse but they would REFUSE riding help (Which they ALREADY PAID FOR) because they didn't want to look like they didn't know what they were doing. Some of them were smart people though and accepted my help and would tip me extra even though I would explain to them they had already paid for the training but they were grateful for the extra help. (Training I got from my Dad who got it from John Lyons at a week long training camp. God, my Dad is so dumb for going to a training camp and paying a huge sum of money to learn how to do something he could have learned on his own, right? -_- ) Anyways, the basic point is. There are hobbies some people want to learn how to do and understand they won't be the next Tiger Woods or Micheal Jordon. They just want to have a hobby they can do well at, have fun with, and relax to have a good time. To release stress, not cause it because they don't know what they are doing. Why else do we play flag football, or soccer, or little league baseball, or StarCraft? I know I have no desires of grandeur of being a great SC2 player but I know I am a great teacher at helping people. You can ask my CPL team how much time I spent with them before I moved here to Arizona and if they improved at all. I wasn't anything higher then C+ Protoss on Iccup, but I still helped them with basic flaws in their gameplay. Now look at Incontrol, Machine, Inka, Louder, and LzGamer. They were the top USA players for StarCraft and now they are looking to share their game experiences from not only SC:BW but using their natural talent for SC2 they are looking to help those that want to get better at that game. Look at the guestbooks on the website and see if we are wasting people's time or money. Many of them only want to be able to beat their friends and that's it. Some just want to get to Silver and be content there. Not everybody wants to be the best, they just want to understand and enjoy a great game. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 11 2010 23:54 JinMaikeul wrote: I'm curious to see how much a person could possibly improve in only 3 days Far, far more than you could improve by buying a new mouse, pad and keyboard, which cost half as much as the camp. | ||
LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On May 12 2010 01:04 Jibba wrote: Far, far more than you could improve by buying a new mouse, pad and keyboard, which cost half as much as the camp. This is just a stupid response... The post was speaking to the length of the learning process, not a meaningless debate about cost effectiveness... -_- | ||
atarianimo
United States82 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On May 12 2010 01:01 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: + Show Spoiler + Or what about Basketball? Who needs coaches. I can stand in the court and shoot the ball all day. I'll figure it out in my own time. I mean, it's not like there are coaches in the NBA. All those players are professionals that don't need help anymore to figure out what they lack in their game. Or what about those StarCraft: BroodWar Korean gamers? They don't need coaches. Flash is already the best, what else is there to learn or prepare for? I grew up on a 70 acre horse ranch. My dad was a horseback riding teacher. People would pay to ride a horse properly. Why didn't they just get a horse and just learn how to ride it? You can basically learn yourself on your own time, right? In reality. Many people can't learn things on their own about some things. Some have natural talent for certain things and that is why there are super stars/geniuses but then you have those that just work hard AND learn from the best in any way possible. I know I was terrible at SC:BW until I started getting help from the EG guys. Even you Ballistixz. I'm sure there are things you have no idea how to do and probably don't want to put in the time to learn on your own. For example: What if you wanted to learn how to write HTML? Pretend you're back in the early days of computing and there were no guides or coaches for HTML. What if all the guides you could find were just like our SC2 forums here on TL? Rampant OP's from people with 3 posts claiming X or Y unit is imbalance. If there was a tutor that said: "Hey, for $5 I can teach basic HTML coding." Would you jump at the chance or tell him to fuck off because he's only out to get your money and isn't really interested in helping you. I worked on a dude ranch during my last year of High School. You would get some of these rich folks that thought they knew how to ride horses and they would bounce around all over the place, endangering themselves and the horse, due to their real lack of ability to ride the horse but they would REFUSE riding help (Which they ALREADY PAID FOR) because they didn't want to look like they didn't know what they were doing. Some of them were smart people though and accepted my help and would tip me extra even though I would explain to them they had already paid for the training but they were grateful for the extra help. (Training I got from my Dad who got it from John Lyons at a week long training camp. God, my Dad is so dumb for going to a training camp and paying a huge sum of money to learn how to do something he could have learned on his own, right? -_- ) Anyways, the basic point is. There are hobbies some people want to learn how to do and understand they won't be the next Tiger Woods or Micheal Jordon. They just want to have a hobby they can do well at, have fun with, and relax to have a good time. To release stress, not cause it because they don't know what they are doing. Why else do we play flag football, or soccer, or little league baseball, or StarCraft? I know I have no desires of grandeur of being a great SC2 player but I know I am a great teacher at helping people. You can ask my CPL team how much time I spent with them before I moved here to Arizona and if they improved at all. I wasn't anything higher then C+ Protoss on Iccup, but I still helped them with basic flaws in their gameplay. Now look at Incontrol, Machine, Inka, Louder, and LzGamer. They were the top USA players for StarCraft and now they are looking to share their game experiences from not only SC:BW but using their natural talent for SC2 they are looking to help those that want to get better at that game. Look at the guestbooks on the website and see if we are wasting people's time or money. Many of them only want to be able to beat their friends and that's it. Some just want to get to Silver and be content there. Not everybody wants to be the best, they just want to understand and enjoy a great game. For real. Brent is so right here. I don't know what the hell is going on with TL l8ly but everytime someone tries something new and exciting everyone these days is qq'ing. Would I pay for it if I was trying to become a progamer or just better? Hell yes.... I guess MMA training camps are stupid too. Just get in the cage and figure it out.... | ||
LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
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