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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
A Selection of Community Responses
Spoiler Warning Blizzard: None of them are positive
On May 06 2010 00:14 h3r1n6 wrote:
Yay, so I can add my rl friends, most of whom don't play at all, to Battle.net, but I can't play with people from the US, with whom I played BW most of the time.
On May 06 2010 10:43 Whyzguy wrote:
This is like winning a free matress when you really needed a kidney.
On May 06 2010 07:32 Senx wrote:
oh my god this is such a waste of time, get some actual chat system in place instead of this..
On May 06 2010 01:25 tarpman wrote:
Oh for CRYING OUT LOUD. No LAN, no hosting replays, no clans/teams, latency from 1998... but Facebook integration? Blizzard, get your goddamn act together!
On May 06 2010 01:47 Spawkuring wrote:
The game having Facebook integration: Don't really care. It was bound to happen.
The game not having chat channels, clans, cross-region play, 2010 latency quality, and group replay watching because they were too busy implementing semi-Facebook features: Screw you Blizzard.
Good to know that I can add my European friends to my Bnet friends list. Too bad I can't play with them since I live in the US.
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http://www.destructoid.com/facebook-battle-net-integration-revealed-172910.phtml
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63645
Battle.net and Facebook, sitting in a tree…
Activision Blizzard has announced today that it will be officially linking its Battle.net service to social platform Facebook. As an example of the functionality, StarCraft II players will be able to add Facebook friends to their Battle.net friends list. Finally, you'll be able to easily join StarCraft skirmishes with all of those people from high school you you either a) don't remember or b) never spoke to, but they added you on Facebook anyhow.
The functionality will soon be added to the ongoing StarCraft II beta test, and is expected to ship alongside the game, which was just dated for July 27.
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Hmm sounds interesting, as long as random people wont be able to add. I am sure the top level players would be bothered. But it seems only "friends" on your facebook will be able to add you and vice versa.
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I'm glad Blizzard is putting their time to good use...
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From the direction all the Battle.net changes have been taking, this isn't all too much of a surprise..
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Now that's way better than chat channels, yai!
/sarcasm
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United States11637 Posts
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thank god now i can finally share my nerd hobbies with people from high school I don't talk to anymore.
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Yeah something like this was announced at blizzcon, and I'll say the same thing that I said there, "That's cool I guess... seems like a waste of time, I mean how many people actually have boatloads of SC players on their facebook?"
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
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Wow. Stupid. Blizzard is selling out, thx activision.
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Poll: Battle.net 2.0 connected to FacebookBah! Blizz should spend their time on useful stuff! (964) 83% I don't care. (132) 11% Yay! I was hoping for this! (70) 6% 1166 total votes Your vote: Battle.net 2.0 connected to Facebook (Vote): Yay! I was hoping for this!
(Vote): Bah! Blizz should spend their time on useful stuff!
(Vote): I don't care.
I'm neither surprised nor amused.
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Calgary25980 Posts
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too!
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
Hahaha just read the comments on destructoid...
One user summed it up pretty well:
"In other news, more than 50 million people join facebook today, which is the equivalent of the entire Population of South Korea."
Edit: ROOOOOOOOFL Chill xD
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On May 06 2010 00:04 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Now that's way better than chat channels, yai!
/sarcasm
you can sort of have a chat channel. If you have a real friend or more, in your F list. Donno about non "real-friends" though. You can open the chat to one of them. Then the little green arrow mid right of the chat box, click that and invite everyone else, no need to create a party. You've just created a chat channel. I hope this changes 
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Pls we need moar useless stuff. Dont even bother with the key elements everyone's been asking for..
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Austin10831 Posts
Hey Blizzard, can I play with the friends I've made from around the world over 12 years in Brood War?
Nah, sorry, but you can play with people you knew in 8th grade!
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On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too!
HAHAHAHA
On topic:
I dont want all my RL friends to know what a nerd i am ...
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stop crying about this. Of course they were gonna do this. Did it really surprise you? In 2010?
Alot of people will want to their facebook friends and features present in battle.net, considering the vast VAST number of people using facebook every day, at all times even.
The game won't be any less awesome just because they decide this feature will be at launch aswell.
Dry those eyes 
And btw, reality escape from who you are (probaly a nerd) is never a good thing. Maybe it's even healthy that your friends and loved ones get to see what you spend most of your life on :D
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On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too!
ROFL!!!1
This will be an OK feature, i mean....nothing wrong with it but there are other stuff Blizzard should be concentrating on.
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I see nothing wrong with this... it gives gaming more exposure and helps broaden sc2's reception and audience. There is lots of good in mainstreaming gaming.
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On May 06 2010 00:09 Erucious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too! HAHAHAHA On topic: I dont want all my RL friends to know what a nerd i am ...
No!, you must be proud of being nerdy it is what makes us great, no one should ever be afraid to stand up in a large room and yell i am a nerd, be proud fellow nerd we are all here to support you, and besides look at that number in the top left, there are thousands of nerds on this website alone that won't think its weird maybe some of them are secretly you real life friends
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wow that is very gay imo, hate facebook, guess this explains the beta key giveaways on facebook...
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Yay, so I can add my rl friends, most of whom don't play at all, to Battle.net, but I can't play with people from the US, with whom I played BW most of the time.
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I think the feature is quite nice, and don't think that all employees have been working for this for like 2 weeks.. you know that there are different development teams?
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Pretty stupid. People are trying to disconnect from FB and what does Blizzard do?
Hopefully you don't have to use it.
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They said they would implement this at the last Blizzcon arlready so nothing new here.
What i would like to see is to integrate the ingame chatsystem with the facebook chat or some IM because that way people who don´t game can message me ingame and i don´t need to tab out to know if it´s something really important or just some stupid link or someone wich i don´t want to chat with anyway.
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I'm using facebook only to connect with the girls I know.
And i doubt they will be willing to 1v1...
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Clamev that's actually a pretty good suggestion.
I too would like for people to be able to contact me in-game from facebook via a chat or so.'
:D
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On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too!
LOL.
On topic: Don't care. Doesn't seem like it would be too intrusive, since it'll probably require the user to actively link the two accounts. It's just that extra level of community that they're adding since, ya know, there aren't any chat channels.
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I guess this will increase the sells more than fixing all of the lacking features that make it a platform way inferior to BNET 1.
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On May 06 2010 00:18 Clamev wrote:
They said they would implement this at the last Blizzcon arlready so nothing new here.
What i would like to see is to integrate the ingame chatsystem with the facebook chat or some IM because that way people who don´t game can message me ingame and i don´t need to tab out to know if it´s something really important or just some stupid link or someone wich i don´t want to chat with anyway.
I've been wanting some sort of 3rd party chat integration for the longest time. Not only for ingame to outside, but some kind of integration with an IM client like Trillian or something so I don't have to log in to battle.net to chat with my online friends/clanmates. Although without "chat channels" it might be pointless now..
And I doubt Blizzard would do that anyways.
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On May 06 2010 00:13 Noev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 00:09 Erucious wrote:On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too! HAHAHAHA On topic: I dont want all my RL friends to know what a nerd i am ... No!, you must be proud of being nerdy it is what makes us great, no one should ever be afraid to stand up in a large room and yell i am a nerd, be proud fellow nerd we are all here to support you, and besides look at that number in the top left, there are thousands of nerds on this website alone that won't think its weird maybe some of them are secretly you real life friends
Well you are right. Though i dont mind people to know that i'm a nerd, i think most of my friends know. But.... they dont know how bad it is :p...
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I don't even use facebook so I'm feeling like "whatever". It's nice to know Blizzard would rather do this kind of stuff for release rather than clans or whatever.
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On May 06 2010 00:01 Kennigit wrote:
Oh god. just what i need - more connectivity to people i've never met.
haha my thoughts exactly
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On May 06 2010 00:09 Erucious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too! HAHAHAHA On topic: I dont want all my RL friends to know what a nerd i am ...
You need to watch Day[9] Daily #100 my friend.
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I'd imagine this feature was done more for the WoW crowd than Starcraft. It's not uncommon for WoW players and guilds to be centered around real life relationships.
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Blah stupid Web 2.0 I dont have a Facebook account and I will never own one.
Whoever uses Facebook might like this one though :o
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On May 06 2010 00:19 UnderWorld_Dream wrote:
I'm using facebook only to connect with the girls I know.
And i doubt they will be willing to 1v1...
True in so many ways :/
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On May 06 2010 00:31 Lobo2me wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 00:19 UnderWorld_Dream wrote:
I'm using facebook only to connect with the girls I know.
And i doubt they will be willing to 1v1... True in so many ways :/
Except of course, I doubt you know any girls let alone have contact with em on teh face
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I remember talking to one of my friends about this; "Wouldn't it be weird if Blizzard meshed with major social networking?"
...hopefully this will help out with gaming "street-cred" when people see us regular TLers sitting on top of all those regular people that talk big in real-life.
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On May 06 2010 00:19 UnderWorld_Dream wrote:
I'm using facebook only to connect with the girls I know.
And i doubt they will be willing to 1v1...
Well then, I guess they have to do 2's with you
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Wohoo, now the girl i met one day before at a party will know my 1v1 rank !
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Rofl, the only people from high school I actually want to have anything to do with... I keep in touch with already.
This does seem totally unnecessary and dumb in my opinion though T_T;
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On May 06 2010 00:32 MasterFischer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 00:31 Lobo2me wrote:On May 06 2010 00:19 UnderWorld_Dream wrote:
I'm using facebook only to connect with the girls I know.
And i doubt they will be willing to 1v1... True in so many ways :/ Except of course, I doubt you know any girls let alone have contact with em on teh face
Oh you 
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On May 06 2010 00:09 Erucious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too! HAHAHAHA On topic: I dont want all my RL friends to know what a nerd i am ...
Get with the times. Privacy is out. Take a photo of your penis and come join Facebook like the rest of us.
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I don't really care. I'm not going to be using it but realistically they can't be wasting that much time on this feature. Plus we already know the release date so it's not like it will get delayed at all. The reason for doing this is obvious they want mass market appeal a la MW2 but I doubt it would ever get that big.
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I will not be using this feature.
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So the big question is: will I be able to raise my farm while playing SC2?
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wow fuck that 
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Man how am i supposed to dodge going out if MY FRIENDS KNOW I'M ON STARCRAFT. FML
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blizzard/activision
facebook
world of warcraft
call of duty
all four of these things are garbage
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Belgium9947 Posts
On May 06 2010 00:14 h3r1n6 wrote:
Yay, so I can add my rl friends, most of whom don't play at all, to Battle.net, but I can't play with people from the US, with whom I played BW most of the time.
Exactly my thoughts.
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On May 06 2010 00:37 Clow wrote:
So the big question is: will I be able to raise my farm while playing SC2?
nice thought, new farmville and mafia wars sc2 style items added...
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Please give us some good bnet 2.0 features like chat rooms and watching replays together rather than this shit. -_-
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My highschool and college classes are 80% girl, and that's also the percentage of girls on my FB friendlist. I don't know what kind of "updates" it will post on my FB, but I do know none of them will care anyway.
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This is cool stuff but it really should have waited 'til more important things were done. Then again, maybe the coders working on this are interns who aren't good for anything useful or something 
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On May 06 2010 00:55 Goshawk. wrote:
Please give us some good bnet 2.0 features like chat rooms and watching replays together rather than this shit. -_-
Seriously this is how they are spending their time with B.net 2.0 when we will be launching with no chat channels, no "groups", no clans, and no ability to watch replays together. They have to be smoking crack.
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Expect twitter by Heart of the Swarm.
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I'm super excited to have all my friends and girlfriend know how much time I'm playing SC2...
yipee.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 06 2010 00:10 MasterFischer wrote:stop crying about this. Of course they were gonna do this. Did it really surprise you? In 2010? Alot of people will want to their facebook friends and features present in battle.net, considering the vast VAST number of people using facebook every day, at all times even. The game won't be any less awesome just because they decide this feature will be at launch aswell. Dry those eyes And btw, reality escape from who you are (probaly a nerd) is never a good thing. Maybe it's even healthy that your friends and loved ones get to see what you spend most of your life on :D
It wouldn't bother me if it wasn't for the fact that ESSENTIAL features like chat channels, clan features, online replays, LAN are being either completely scrapped or put on a "to-do list".
Facebook intergration? THAT should be something that comes in a patch - chat channels should be in from day 1.
I bet we are gonna have to wait for some wizards to hack together some ingame implementation of mirc or something.
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I would say this doesn't bother me at all since I stopped using facebook quite awhile ago ... but when they spend time doing crap like this rather than things like chat channels and the ability to play games with someone out side your region ... makes me sad. I suppose we'll have to start getting used to this kinda crap, it seems this is the way things are going to be.
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I have fb, but this is absolutely retarded.
What about IN GAME F*ING chat rooms??
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what a fancy feature, can't wait to stalk chicks while spamming s
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this is totally useless stuff
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On May 06 2010 00:04 Amber[LighT] wrote:
thank god now i can finally share my nerd hobbies with people from high school I don't talk to anymore.
And maybe.. just maybe that hot girl that sat in front of you plays sc2 and needs a training partner.
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On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too!
hahahhaa
this actually looks kinda cool, saves some time from tracking down everybody's IDs
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And yet no chat......
Right Blizzard. Priorities.
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I think this is fine. It's a pretty standard move nowadays to integrate Facebook, Twitter or some other social networking features.
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Oh for CRYING OUT LOUD. No LAN, no hosting replays, no clans/teams, latency from 1998... but Facebook integration? Blizzard, get your goddamn act together!
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On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too!
wow time to get rid of facebook... i hate this thing anyway
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On May 06 2010 01:16 Craz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 00:04 Amber[LighT] wrote:
thank god now i can finally share my nerd hobbies with people from high school I don't talk to anymore.
And maybe.. just maybe that hot girl that sat in front of you plays sc2 and needs a training partner.
as long as college wasn't too bad to her.
On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too!
haha
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People complaining about priorities aren't getting the whole story I think. Facebook integration is not just a product improvement measure, it is also a marketing measure.
The biggest priority for Blizzard is to get people to buy their game. Facebook can possibly help with that. You can't go to shareholders and tell them about your fancy new chat room features, but you can definitely tell them about your new facebook integration that will get X amount of people that have never heard of Starcraft before to see the name. That's worth a lot.
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"StarCraft II players will be able to add Facebook friends to their Battle.net friends list."
what if, say my friend happens to be in europe playing european sc2?!
fail blizz
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On May 06 2010 00:09 Erucious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too! I dont want all my RL friends to know what a nerd i am ...
lol agree
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wat.
Do not want. This better be disable-able.
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It seems people don't understand that this probably took 3 people to integrate....you act as if the entire SC2 department was working on this.
I, for one, don't care if this is implemented or not. Doesn't interest me in the slightest.
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So. This means I finally can play farmville between games in SC2? SWEET
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On May 06 2010 01:16 Craz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 06 2010 00:04 Amber[LighT] wrote:
thank god now i can finally share my nerd hobbies with people from high school I don't talk to anymore. And maybe.. just maybe that hot girl that sat in front of you plays sc2 and needs a training partner.
ya, thats what she wants, some creepy guy who used to breath down her neck adding her.
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I think I speak for everyone when I say FUCK BLIZZARD.
That is all.
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On May 06 2010 01:39 CyberPitz wrote:
It seems people don't understand that this probably took 3 people to integrate....you act as if the entire SC2 department was working on this.
I wonder how complicated it is to make a chat channel. I seem to remember these being around back in ooooh 1998
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I think its kinda cool. It worked pretty well on the Xbox live for finding friends. Ok they may not be people you speak to everyday but to me it has more "meaning" than the ranking against random people in the division.
Not sure if I want all my losses being spammed up on facebook though... :D
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On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too!
lmao
I think this actually will do good for the game to have it integrated if it's done well
as long as it simply connects you up with your other FB friends who own the game, I don't want it broadcasting every win/loss, but to connect up and instantly have everyone I know who's also playing SC added to my friends list in game will be good, allowing for casual players to connect up and play games with their friends more easily.
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The game having Facebook integration: Don't really care. It was bound to happen.
The game not having chat channels, clans, cross-region play, 2010 latency quality, and group replay watching because they were too busy implementing semi-Facebook features: Screw you Blizzard.
Good to know that I can add my European friends to my Bnet friends list. Too bad I can't play with them since I live in the US.
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On May 06 2010 01:04 Prdors wrote:
I'm super excited to have all my friends and girlfriend know how much time I'm playing SC2...
yipee.
QFT
Also, are the masses of facebook addict casual gamers really going to stick to a RTS, even with the noob friendly features of SC2? I highly doubt it. RTS is an elitist genre to begin with, IMO.
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There's no way for them to link your b.net and facebook accounts unless you manually do it. And it would be far too ridiculous for them to require you to have a facebook account to play SC2.
However, I do foresee some incentive to get you to link your accounts. Like "Recruit your friends over facebook and get extra ladder rested points!"
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On May 06 2010 01:43 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 01:39 CyberPitz wrote:
It seems people don't understand that this probably took 3 people to integrate....you act as if the entire SC2 department was working on this.
I wonder how complicated it is to make a chat channel. I seem to remember these being around back in ooooh 1998
I wonder what people like you are thinking about when making this point. You guys must have some kind of point since I see this same thing posted all over the place. Has Blizzard ever said "Oh man, chat rooms are so had to program, let's skip that and make this huge new RTS game engine". Blizzard has reasons, which we can only speculate on, for not including chat rooms, but I can be pretty certain it's not "Chat roomz is hard".
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On May 06 2010 01:47 Spawkuring wrote:
The game having Facebook integration: Don't really care. It was bound to happen.
The game not having chat channels, clans, cross-region play, 2010 latency quality, and group replay watching because they were too busy implementing semi-Facebook features: Screw you Blizzard.
Good to know that I can add my European friends to my Bnet friends list. Too bad I can't play with them since I live in the US.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly also.
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On May 06 2010 01:50 GogoKodo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 01:43 Archerofaiur wrote:On May 06 2010 01:39 CyberPitz wrote:
It seems people don't understand that this probably took 3 people to integrate....you act as if the entire SC2 department was working on this.
I wonder how complicated it is to make a chat channel. I seem to remember these being around back in ooooh 1998 I wonder what people like you are thinking about when making this point. You guys must have some kind of point since I see this same thing posted all over the place. Has Blizzard ever said "Oh man, chat rooms are so had to program, let's skip that and make this huge new RTS game engine". Blizzard has reasons, which we can only speculate on, for not including chat rooms, but I can be pretty certain it's not "Chat roomz is hard".
Thats our point. Blizzard has chosen Facebook integration as a higher priotiy than chat.
See?
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They're probably going to tell us to use facebook chat.
lololol.
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As stupid as this is, I'd rather see stuff about Starcraft II fill my timelines than stupid apps like Farmville.
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I think this is a good way to fight smufing just require all your players to have your bnet account connected to your FB page and check it
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who gives a flying fart about that?
Really, does Blizz have nothing else to do?
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Anyone worried about having this integrated with their FB accounts are being sort of silly. Integration with FB I'm 99% certain is optional just like registering your e-mail address is now. If you don't want it, no one is forcing you.
That said this is sort of useless for me and I wish other features (like lobby chat) got in first.
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Can't wait to "like" my own wins that I will obviously publish on my wall!
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if its optional how will anyone beta test it? :D
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On May 06 2010 01:43 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 01:39 CyberPitz wrote:
It seems people don't understand that this probably took 3 people to integrate....you act as if the entire SC2 department was working on this.
I wonder how complicated it is to make a chat channel. I seem to remember these being around back in ooooh 1998
QFT Chatting has to be the absolute easiest thing to implement into a game it's just text... each message is what 700 bytes? Come on...
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They just announced this on Facebook www.facebook.com/starcraft
Post a comment protesting the fact that we can have international Facebook friends but won't be able to connect to other regions of bnet, please
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On May 06 2010 02:03 theqat wrote:They just announced this on Facebook www.facebook.com/starcraftPost a comment protesting the fact that we can have international Facebook friends but won't be able to connect to other regions of bnet, please
w8 WHAT?
Won't they get rid of this "barriers" after Beta?
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On May 06 2010 01:51 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 01:50 GogoKodo wrote:On May 06 2010 01:43 Archerofaiur wrote:On May 06 2010 01:39 CyberPitz wrote:
It seems people don't understand that this probably took 3 people to integrate....you act as if the entire SC2 department was working on this.
I wonder how complicated it is to make a chat channel. I seem to remember these being around back in ooooh 1998 I wonder what people like you are thinking about when making this point. You guys must have some kind of point since I see this same thing posted all over the place. Has Blizzard ever said "Oh man, chat rooms are so had to program, let's skip that and make this huge new RTS game engine". Blizzard has reasons, which we can only speculate on, for not including chat rooms, but I can be pretty certain it's not "Chat roomz is hard". Thats our point. Blizzard has chosen Facebook integration as a higher priotiy than chat. See?
No, I don't see. If you want to make a point how about you actually post about that point? Chat rooms being easy to create has nothing to do with Facebook integration.
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Why are people still complaining about chat. Blizzard has already said they will have chat channels. Are people just complaining because its not at release?
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On May 06 2010 02:09 GogoKodo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 01:51 Archerofaiur wrote:On May 06 2010 01:50 GogoKodo wrote:On May 06 2010 01:43 Archerofaiur wrote:On May 06 2010 01:39 CyberPitz wrote:
It seems people don't understand that this probably took 3 people to integrate....you act as if the entire SC2 department was working on this.
I wonder how complicated it is to make a chat channel. I seem to remember these being around back in ooooh 1998 I wonder what people like you are thinking about when making this point. You guys must have some kind of point since I see this same thing posted all over the place. Has Blizzard ever said "Oh man, chat rooms are so had to program, let's skip that and make this huge new RTS game engine". Blizzard has reasons, which we can only speculate on, for not including chat rooms, but I can be pretty certain it's not "Chat roomz is hard". Thats our point. Blizzard has chosen Facebook integration as a higher priotiy than chat. See? No, I don't see. If you want to make a point how about you actually post about that point? Chat rooms being easy to create has nothing to do with Facebook integration.
Go back and read what it was replying to.
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Twitter next.
I would be more happy with some youtube/livestream integration.
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Sure, whatever. It's somewhat convenient, so I'm cool with it..so long as they don't announce stuff every three seconds like in Farmville.
Jimmy has won a 1v1 custom game!
Jimmy has earned the Achievement "1a2a3a4a"!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy needs someone to be his partner in 2v2! Please be Jimmy's partner!
Jimmy has lost a 2v2 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 2v2 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 3v3 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 4v4 ladder game!
Jimmy has earned the achievement "You Really Suck!
Jimmy has deleted his Battle.net account! Please ask Jimmy to reactivate it!
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On May 06 2010 01:47 Spawkuring wrote:
The game having Facebook integration: Don't really care. It was bound to happen.
The game not having chat channels, clans, cross-region play, 2010 latency quality, and group replay watching because they were too busy implementing semi-Facebook features: Screw you Blizzard.
Good to know that I can add my European friends to my Bnet friends list. Too bad I can't play with them since I live in the US.
DAMN YOU BLIZZ
EDIT: you missed LAN.
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I would prefer chat channels to be honest.
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I seriously don't get how's this "Pushing ESports Forward".
seems like really step backwards to me, and big one.
wtf is happening at Blizzard, who's giving them so many shitty advices..
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Oh my friggin god...
I really really really hate all those people that join every group there is, post everything even if it has nog relevance whatsoever (Jimmy is eating noodles... CARE OMG) and just facebook in general.
The only thing it's useful for are pictures and since everyone uses it...
Still, I do not condone of this. Mixing my favorite game with some stupid "social networking" fuck shit site?
What the FUCK is Blizzard thinking?
aaaaargh
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who needs lan support, when you can have facebook? yaaay.
bullshit.
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Facebook is nice and all but I'd rather have chat channels.
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I died a bit inside when I heard this piece of shit feature.
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Christ some of you are whiners. This is a welcome addition for finding not-so-random people to play with and compare stats with.
It is not like it was a choice to have this feature over chat channels or [insert other anticipated feature here]. Give it time.
As I said before I know it worked pretty well for Xbox live and it will work here too.
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This is okay, as long as i can DISABLE this and not be forced to have it. Facebook privacy settings now days are basically non-existent.
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I don't use Facebook, will I have to make an account or sth.?
I really just think Facebook is stupid and a waste of time and it would annoy me if I had to get an account to fully "enjoy" SC2.
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On May 06 2010 02:41 Ikkath wrote:
Christ some of you are whiners. This is a welcome addition for finding not-so-random people to play with and compare stats with.
It is not like it was a choice to have this feature over chat channels or [insert other anticipated feature here]. Give it time.
As I said before I know it worked pretty well for Xbox live and it will work here too.
welcomed? please inform us where people welcome this, then post a link here so you actually have proof of someone saying that this is a nice feature to have.
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This feature its self isn’t a bad idea. As long as it’s optional and easily disabled/modifiable filters it could be neat.
What gets me though is that this somehow makes the launch but chat rooms aren’t slatted until AFTER release? I just don’t understand where Blizzard is getting their info on what the community really wants.
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On May 06 2010 02:44 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 02:41 Ikkath wrote:
Christ some of you are whiners. This is a welcome addition for finding not-so-random people to play with and compare stats with.
It is not like it was a choice to have this feature over chat channels or [insert other anticipated feature here]. Give it time.
As I said before I know it worked pretty well for Xbox live and it will work here too. welcomed? please inform us where people welcome this, then post a link here so you actually have proof of someone saying that this is a nice feature to have.
I welcome this. I say that this is a nice feature to have. BOOM.
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On May 06 2010 02:42 kickinhead wrote:
I don't use Facebook, will I have to make an account or sth.?
I really just think Facebook is stupid and a waste of time and it would annoy me if I had to get an account to fully "enjoy" SC2.
Nah you just won't be able to link up with people on your facebook who you don't really chat with on a day to day basis. You won't even notice anything different if you don't already take advantage of facebook linkage in Xbox live and other services.
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On May 06 2010 02:44 Spidermonkey wrote:
This feature its self isn’t a bad idea. As long as it’s optional and easily disabled/modifiable filters it could be neat.
What gets me though is that this somehow makes the launch but chat rooms aren’t slatted until AFTER release? I just don’t understand where Blizzard is getting their info on what the community really wants.
There is the TL community (which granted does have a lot of weight) and then the community at large that generally won't care about no chat rooms. TL does not represent the larger gaming mass audience.
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i don't like how you are forced nowadays to create a facebook account
even our newspaper has an article about facebook like every week
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I'm pretty sure we won't HAVE to link up and won't HAVE to consatntly post crap about how nerdy people are. But yeah I'd prefer Battlenet to maybe be a bit more like facebook, chat etc, than link it directly.
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On May 06 2010 02:46 GogoKodo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 02:44 Spidermonkey wrote:
This feature its self isn’t a bad idea. As long as it’s optional and easily disabled/modifiable filters it could be neat.
What gets me though is that this somehow makes the launch but chat rooms aren’t slatted until AFTER release? I just don’t understand where Blizzard is getting their info on what the community really wants.
There is the TL community (which granted does have a lot of weight) and then the community at large that generally won't care about no chat rooms. TL does not represent the larger gaming mass audience.
I sort of agree. The average gamer will find it annoying that they don't have easy to use chat channels. Lets be honest, we are going to get alot of people who's fist online game was WoW. What are they going to do without general chat channels? I don't think they will make a big enough fuss about it though to make a difference.
This entire thing with Facebook is more about viral advertising than a useful tool I think.
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great priotities blizzard...no clansystem for release but facebook integration... its just sad
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ooo yeah shove some of that web 2.0 bullshit down my throat baby
livejournal, myspace, now facebook.... that was so cool like 5 years ago.
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On May 06 2010 02:15 Captain Peabody wrote:
Sure, whatever. It's somewhat convenient, so I'm cool with it..so long as they don't announce stuff every three seconds like in Farmville.
Jimmy has won a 1v1 custom game!
Jimmy has earned the Achievement "1a2a3a4a"!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy needs someone to be his partner in 2v2! Please be Jimmy's partner!
Jimmy has lost a 2v2 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 2v2 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 3v3 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 4v4 ladder game!
Jimmy has earned the achievement "You Really Suck!
Jimmy has deleted his Battle.net account! Please ask Jimmy to reactivate it!
This bullshit already exists for anyone you add as a Real ID friend. Oh and it's bugged too, so not only will you get an annoying popup the first time your friend wins 50 games as whatever race he's playing, but you'll get it randomly throughout hte rest of eternity.
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it may make competitive gaming a bit more socially acceptable
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On May 06 2010 03:05 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 02:15 Captain Peabody wrote:
Sure, whatever. It's somewhat convenient, so I'm cool with it..so long as they don't announce stuff every three seconds like in Farmville.
Jimmy has won a 1v1 custom game!
Jimmy has earned the Achievement "1a2a3a4a"!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy needs someone to be his partner in 2v2! Please be Jimmy's partner!
Jimmy has lost a 2v2 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 2v2 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 3v3 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 4v4 ladder game!
Jimmy has earned the achievement "You Really Suck!
Jimmy has deleted his Battle.net account! Please ask Jimmy to reactivate it! This bullshit already exists for anyone you add as a Real ID friend. Oh and it's bugged too, so not only will you get an annoying popup the first time your friend wins 50 games as whatever race he's playing, but you'll get it randomly throughout hte rest of eternity.
You can disable Toast Notifications under Options - Social
I highly recommend this ^^
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How about they build in something useful, like TL integration.
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yeah, pretty useless. kind of neat, maybe the best tactic to "spread the word" about the game...
still, chat channels and shared replays >> this
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And this company wants to run esports? Blizzard's idea of E-sports is probably a few newbs playing a semi-pro on bnet like that show in Korea.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 06 2010 03:08 CowGoMoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 03:05 FrozenArbiter wrote:On May 06 2010 02:15 Captain Peabody wrote:
Sure, whatever. It's somewhat convenient, so I'm cool with it..so long as they don't announce stuff every three seconds like in Farmville.
Jimmy has won a 1v1 custom game!
Jimmy has earned the Achievement "1a2a3a4a"!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 1v1 ladder game!
Jimmy needs someone to be his partner in 2v2! Please be Jimmy's partner!
Jimmy has lost a 2v2 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 2v2 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 3v3 ladder game!
Jimmy has lost a 4v4 ladder game!
Jimmy has earned the achievement "You Really Suck!
Jimmy has deleted his Battle.net account! Please ask Jimmy to reactivate it! This bullshit already exists for anyone you add as a Real ID friend. Oh and it's bugged too, so not only will you get an annoying popup the first time your friend wins 50 games as whatever race he's playing, but you'll get it randomly throughout hte rest of eternity. You can disable Toast Notifications under Options - Social I highly recommend this ^^
I should have checked that out long ago but I only remember about it when it happens, which is during games :D Thx.
On May 06 2010 03:07 poor newb wrote:
it may make competitive gaming a bit more socially acceptable
If all this crap is what it takes to make competitive gaming socially acceptable, I say we just don't bother lol
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Anyone who expected BNet not to link up with Facebook is just amish. There will be Twitter and Buzz integration too. If you look at it from the bright side a linked streaming service might not be too far away if they manage to popularize it enough.
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I'm personally looking forward to it... it would make it easier to add people I know to my friends list
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On May 06 2010 03:14 Tef wrote:
Anyone who expected BNet not to link up with Facebook is just amish. There will be Twitter and Buzz integration too. If you look at it from the bright side a linked streaming service might not be too far away if they manage to popularize it enough.
Yeah, we want it to be all around-linked because?...
Oh Yes!, so we can play with the same people in the same server, thanks to some weirdly thought server restrictions they decided to come up at the last minute. Are you fucking seriously kidding me?.
It's not the fact that they are integrating the game, because it's good, it will make more people be aware of it, and well a whole lot more social integration, but I think, there are bigger problems, and solutions that need to be thought out well, instead of "having servers for each region of the fucking world".
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If people seriously think the time taken to integrate facebook is anything like the time to sort out some of the larger issues like x-region matches, chat channels etc then they are hugely mistaken.
Without splitting the community it is likely that it would be impossible to provide the required back end infrastructure to allow the game to exist. There is a reason WoW is split up into regions and then realms you know and why over time x-realm features appeared (as the servers became more powerful over the 5 years since launch).
A worldwide B.net 2 is not a simple thing to engineer for a company with little experience in mega-scale online projects (like google, facebook, etc).
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Yeah, this is something that a couple interns could have taken care of in a week . . . don't confuse work toward Facebook integration with work toward chat or LAN. The skills needed are simply not the same.
The thing that should be protested here is that you can have Facebook friends from all over the world, but you can't play SC2 with the ones outside your region. That part is definitely silly.
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Follow the money guys; there is more than likely a financial deal between Blizzard/Facebook, or Blizzard is going to see some amount of ad revenue for this move.
Chat channels don't make any money; everyone will buy the game regardless of chat channels. This will make them money.
Business sucks for the consumer =\
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Whether this will be really good for us or not, this will be a huge win for Blizzard. People who probably are not interested in Starcraft will begin to see people discussing it and getting invites to it over Facebook. I realllly hope Starcraft 2 takes off here in the Western World. ^^
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I do think this is a pretty cool feature, as its always fun to find people you know or are acquinted with that play Starcraft; and depending on how they do it, it could have some other convienences.
That said, this is something that should absolutely come later after they have fixed the larger issues like not having chat rooms, being able to watch replays together, clan stuff, etc.
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On May 06 2010 03:17 funkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 03:14 Tef wrote:
Anyone who expected BNet not to link up with Facebook is just amish. There will be Twitter and Buzz integration too. If you look at it from the bright side a linked streaming service might not be too far away if they manage to popularize it enough. Yeah, we want it to be all around-linked because?... Oh Yes!, so we can play with the same people in the same server, thanks to some weirdly thought server restrictions they decided to come up at the last minute. Are you fucking seriously kidding me?. It's not the fact that they are integrating the game, because it's good, it will make more people be aware of it, and well a whole lot more social integration, but I think, there are bigger problems, and solutions that need to be thought out well, instead of "having servers for each region of the fucking world".
If you don't know anything about facebook integration you should try and enlighten yourself before you throw your opinions around.
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But none of my friends even play sc2. I got zero comments when I posted "got sc2 beta" or "free beta key here".
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On May 06 2010 03:22 PanzerDragoon wrote:Chat channels don't make any money; everyone will buy the game regardless of chat channels. This will make them money.
I am rather surprised by that personally, there is a banner in BN chat, with the traffic that it generates they should be able to make decent money from it. Why they weren't selling advertising to companies that don't have a colliding interest with them?
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Well I'm not going to complain about Facebook integration in itself, but rather that we have to wait for many desired features like online replay watching and the like.
Facebook integration is actually good because the game DOES need to gain more widespread attention in order to build any kind of major e-Sports scene. If you guys want e-Sports to spread so badly, then you should be glad Blizzard is doing this because like it or not, online communities have a ton of potential customers and is basically the best way to expose yourself to the casual market.
On the other hand, Blizzard really needs to implement cross-region play as soon as possible. It's rather ironic that we can now easily add friends from across the hemisphere, but we can't play with them. I'd rather play with my overseas friends with lag rather than not play with them at all.
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On May 06 2010 03:30 Polis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 03:22 PanzerDragoon wrote:Chat channels don't make any money; everyone will buy the game regardless of chat channels. This will make them money. I am rather surprised by that personally, there is a banner in BN chat, with the traffic that it generates they should be able to make decent money from it. Why they weren't selling advertising to companies that don't have a colliding interest with them?
They don't need a chat channel to put an ad banner in there. Just put it on that initial news/updates screen.
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I like to keep my online friends separate from my real life friends. I'd rather not put a name and face behind every username on my friends list. If the online guy (or girl) seems like a quality enough person and I wanna know them better, I'd add them on Facebook the old fashoned way.
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On May 06 2010 03:34 PanzerDragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 03:30 Polis wrote:On May 06 2010 03:22 PanzerDragoon wrote:Chat channels don't make any money; everyone will buy the game regardless of chat channels. This will make them money. I am rather surprised by that personally, there is a banner in BN chat, with the traffic that it generates they should be able to make decent money from it. Why they weren't selling advertising to companies that don't have a colliding interest with them? They don't need a chat channel to put an ad banner in there. Just put it on that initial news/updates screen.
How much time do you spend on that page? With chat people would spend much more time on BN2.0 between games.
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On May 06 2010 02:46 GogoKodo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 02:44 Spidermonkey wrote:
This feature its self isn’t a bad idea. As long as it’s optional and easily disabled/modifiable filters it could be neat.
What gets me though is that this somehow makes the launch but chat rooms aren’t slatted until AFTER release? I just don’t understand where Blizzard is getting their info on what the community really wants.
There is the TL community (which granted does have a lot of weight) and then the community at large that generally won't care about no chat rooms. TL does not represent the larger gaming mass audience.
That's besides the point, though. Blizzard's top priority as far as Battle.net 2.0 is concerned should be to make it a good service in it's own right, not rely on connections with other services to make up for it's flaws.
For all intents and purposes, when making the new Battle.net, Blizzard should assume that the user does not use any other service and shape Battle.net accordingly.
EDIT: It would put me very much at ease if they at least stated in this announcement that this was merely planned and not a priority. As it is, it leaves a lot of room for doubt....
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You can't honestly think that adding integration into facebook is easier then chat channels can you? Chatting is already in the game all they need to do is add the ability for channels to be persistent rather then tying them to individual people or party's. The transfer of text is so minuscule there is no reason for not having private chat channels in release...
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On May 06 2010 03:35 1337o wrote:
I like to keep my online friends separate from my real life friends. I'd rather not put a name and face behind every username on my friends list. If the online guy (or girl) seems like a quality enough person and I wanna know them better, I'd add them on Facebook the old fashoned way.
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On May 06 2010 03:35 1337o wrote:
I like to keep my online friends separate from my real life friends. I'd rather not put a name and face behind every username on my friends list. If the online guy (or girl) seems like a quality enough person and I wanna know them better, I'd add them on Facebook the old fashoned way.
What?
This will allow you to see who is playing SC2 out of your facebook friends. It isn't going to act as a way to insta-add in game friends to facebook.
How many times do I have to say it: if you have a 360, go and setup facebook integration on it and see that there are probably a bunch of your "friends" who also have gamertags that you didn't know about. Its pretty useful. Much better for casuals to know where they stand against people they know than 100 random people in their division.
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On May 06 2010 03:38 Polis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 03:34 PanzerDragoon wrote:On May 06 2010 03:30 Polis wrote:On May 06 2010 03:22 PanzerDragoon wrote:Chat channels don't make any money; everyone will buy the game regardless of chat channels. This will make them money. I am rather surprised by that personally, there is a banner in BN chat, with the traffic that it generates they should be able to make decent money from it. Why they weren't selling advertising to companies that don't have a colliding interest with them? They don't need a chat channel to put an ad banner in there. Just put it on that initial news/updates screen. How much time do you spend on that page? With chat people would spend much more time on BN2.0 between games.
Online ads don't work like TV ads. There's no bonus for "longer visiblity". Its just on a per-click basis, more than likely, so it really doesn't matter how long someone stares at the ad if they don't click it.
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wtf is this? why don't they spend their resources on something alot more useful to the game... sheesh, what the hell has SC2 got to do with facebook? i'd understand it if they were integrating internet messengers software into Battlenet, but facebook? sigh...
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Neat feature but they should be spending more time incorporating lan and cross-server play.
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On May 06 2010 01:49 hoborg wrote:
There's no way for them to link your b.net and facebook accounts unless you manually do it.
Yeah? I had been boycotting facebook for ages and then decided to make an account just for the heck of it, signing up with a false name and my spam e-mail (the one I give to sites I don't trust). I thought I'd have a lurker account for a while. However, the moment I did, I already had three friend requests from people from my high school, five years earlier. Moreover, I was recommended to befriend lots of dudes from a forum I quit two years earlier. How come? Because my spam e-mail was on the MSN list of those people. Facebook "knew" who I was even before I signed up. They were just waiting for my particular e-mail address to become active.
So, the e-mail you use with your battle.net account, is it the same e-mail that is registered with MSN/Yahoo/Twitter/your blog/whatever, or could anyone you know possibly have searched for you on facebook using that address? Thought so. Then, they can link it.
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On May 06 2010 03:42 phoenixe17 wrote:
You can't honestly think that adding integration into facebook is easier then chat channels can you? Chatting is already in the game all they need to do is add the ability for channels to be persistent rather then tying them to individual people or party's. The transfer of text is so minuscule there is no reason for not having private chat channels in release...
Of course it is. Adding a link to facebook is almost trivial. Go have a look at the facebook API.
Getting a distributed chat system for a worldwide audience of many millions is order of magnitudes harder. Honestly. If you don't know what youre talking about then its probably best to keep quiet else you look foolish.
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On May 06 2010 03:50 Shizuru~ wrote:
wtf is this? why don't they spend their resources on something alot more useful to the game... sheesh, what the hell has SC2 got to do with facebook? i'd understand it if they were integrating internet messengers software into Battlenet, but facebook? sigh...
I'm guessing you've never used Facebook, but Facebook has had an IM service on their webpage for about a year now, and its probably the most popular IM service at this point. Shit like AIM and MSN is practically dead
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I'm sorry it's Blizzard who looks foolish when every single one of their other games release with chat and in 2010 it's OMG SO HARD to add in chat...
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On May 06 2010 03:57 Ikkath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 03:42 phoenixe17 wrote:
You can't honestly think that adding integration into facebook is easier then chat channels can you? Chatting is already in the game all they need to do is add the ability for channels to be persistent rather then tying them to individual people or party's. The transfer of text is so minuscule there is no reason for not having private chat channels in release... Of course it is. Adding a link to facebook is almost trivial. Go have a look at the facebook API. Getting a distributed chat system for a worldwide audience of many millions is order of magnitudes harder. Honestly. If you don't know what youre talking about then its probably best to keep quiet else you look foolish.
this.
the features a lot of you are complaining about not being implemented yet are complex design and programming projects. i'm sure they've probably have some internal testing version working, but big systems require a lot of testing and debugging. the delay isn't because blizzard isn't spending resources on these projects, it's because they're difficult engineering challenges
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On May 06 2010 03:57 Ikkath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 03:42 phoenixe17 wrote:
You can't honestly think that adding integration into facebook is easier then chat channels can you? Chatting is already in the game all they need to do is add the ability for channels to be persistent rather then tying them to individual people or party's. The transfer of text is so minuscule there is no reason for not having private chat channels in release... Of course it is. Adding a link to facebook is almost trivial. Go have a look at the facebook API. Getting a distributed chat system for a worldwide audience of many millions is order of magnitudes harder. Honestly. If you don't know what youre talking about then its probably best to keep quiet else you look foolish.
Because there isn't APIs to deal with chat systems? I'm fairly certain the WoW chat libraries they'll have developed would be simple to intergrate into SC2.
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I have split emotions over this.
The positive side is you can be faster in creating your own personal friends network ingame, so you can find players and such. I think blizzard is not interested in making channels for the same reason. You will probably have groups like in facebook you can join, and then see who is in them and invite people in game from that group (like, group MYM or TL.net)
Will probably cancel the merge option or disable the feature. It will link me via my email which i use for most social services and such. I have too many people who i don't communicate with on my facebook page.
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On May 06 2010 02:41 Ikkath wrote:
Christ some of you are whiners. This is a welcome addition for finding not-so-random people to play with and compare stats with.
It is not like it was a choice to have this feature over chat channels or [insert other anticipated feature here]. Give it time.
As I said before I know it worked pretty well for Xbox live and it will work here too.
XBox Live and BNet are 2 completely different things outside the gaming. XBox live is more mainstream. SC2 is secluded and nerdy. It's not going to get popular in the West anytime soon.
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i guess this is why they let you see the full name of all your real id friends' friends. clearly i want my full name to be floating all over bnet2.0 what's the worst that could happen?
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I'm sure this feature will be wonderful in 10 years when FB goes the way of MySpace. What a waste of time.
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On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too!
Exactly...
/facepalm
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I don't really care. Not a feature I would be using, but it's good for the people that will.
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You're not cool in today's world if you don't integrate with Facebook and Twitter!
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On May 06 2010 03:47 PanzerDragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 03:38 Polis wrote:On May 06 2010 03:34 PanzerDragoon wrote:On May 06 2010 03:30 Polis wrote:On May 06 2010 03:22 PanzerDragoon wrote:Chat channels don't make any money; everyone will buy the game regardless of chat channels. This will make them money. I am rather surprised by that personally, there is a banner in BN chat, with the traffic that it generates they should be able to make decent money from it. Why they weren't selling advertising to companies that don't have a colliding interest with them? They don't need a chat channel to put an ad banner in there. Just put it on that initial news/updates screen. How much time do you spend on that page? With chat people would spend much more time on BN2.0 between games. Online ads don't work like TV ads. There's no bonus for "longer visiblity". Its just on a per-click basis, more than likely, so it really doesn't matter how long someone stares at the ad if they don't click it.
If people click on adds then they are more likely to click more if they spend more time on page with a banner. Adds can also change with time to generate more clicks.
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facebook is life for everyone
so now starcraft will be apart of life too
i think its win win, good way to really spread e-sports across the globe
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Jesus. Is it April 1st?
I absolutely CANNOT STAND this web 2.0 bullshit. Since when is SEVERELY LIMITING what you can do with something considered better?
All we want is a fucking chat channel and to be able to play with people around the world. It's the year 2010, and your online game can't let me talk to more than 4 people at once or connect me to people around the world? -_-
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I don't think the FB app is a bad thing. I just don't think Blizzard is emphaszing B.net and improving it enough. B.net 2.0 was suppose to be this amazing new program for online gaming. It feels no more advanced then if I logged onto DoW2 through Steam. Pretty much all the same features.
Right now B.net isn't impressing me for as much resources as Blizzard has funneled into it. The FB thing alone isn't a big deal, but it's just another thing that makes me go ! "Blizzard doesn't really know what I want out of their game do they?"
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So do I understand this right?
We will have:
- no (open) chat channels
- no lan support
- no clan system until first addon in 18 months
We can not:
- watch replays together with our friends
- play with our friends from abroad
BUT OUR ACCOUNTS CAN BE LINKED TO FACEBOOK?!
Are you effing serious? Blizzard, where are your priorities?
I do not bloody play StarCraft 2 to get swarmed by Facebook douchebags, I already avoid Facebook like a braindead social plague it is. I do not need Facebook integration nor do I want features from the old (and light years better) Battle.net removed/sacrificed/put in the second plan just because Activision is making you cater to the Farmville maniacs.
posts of guys in another forum. my exact feelings about that.
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On May 06 2010 04:16 Garrl wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 03:57 Ikkath wrote:On May 06 2010 03:42 phoenixe17 wrote:
You can't honestly think that adding integration into facebook is easier then chat channels can you? Chatting is already in the game all they need to do is add the ability for channels to be persistent rather then tying them to individual people or party's. The transfer of text is so minuscule there is no reason for not having private chat channels in release... Of course it is. Adding a link to facebook is almost trivial. Go have a look at the facebook API. Getting a distributed chat system for a worldwide audience of many millions is order of magnitudes harder. Honestly. If you don't know what youre talking about then its probably best to keep quiet else you look foolish. Because there isn't APIs to deal with chat systems? I'm fairly certain the WoW chat libraries they'll have developed would be simple to intergrate into SC2.
No it is not even remotely as simple as that. WoW has a hugely limited number of concurrent users per server (with respect to the userbase) and even smaller number of players in each channel. If they rush out chat channels like everyone wants them to they will fragment the community even more than the current region systems - unless you think that being in lobby #78426 with a few hundred players is really compelling and worth all this whining over.
This said, I am not sure how they really can improve on this kind of setup. So maybe they should just do it like this and not look back.
As for the luddites saying that BNet is not like Xbox, etc. You are just plain shortsighted. If it makes it easier to hook up with people in game that you know IRL (no matter how fleeting) and hence deliver a more personal experience to the casual user then what is the problem?
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http://us.battle.net/realid/
We all know what real ID was. Now they make some kind of announcement about how sugary unicorned it is. Watch them try to make "cross game chat" seem like its somehow completely fucking awesome and innovative and not just an almost good feature of a completely lackluster Steam copy.
I'm really cranky today.
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As nifty as this sounds, I wish they would apply effort into something else.
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i hope you guys realize this is probably something that isnt very hard to get done...
lol why do i even bother, especiall TL of all places, rage on
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On May 06 2010 01:07 FrozenArbiter wrote:
It wouldn't bother me if it wasn't for the fact that ESSENTIAL features like chat channels, clan features, online replays, LAN are being either completely scrapped or put on a "to-do list".
Facebook intergration? THAT should be something that comes in a patch - chat channels should be in from day 1.
I bet we are gonna have to wait for some wizards to hack together some ingame implementation of mirc or something.
Couldn't of said it better. I just don't get it.
The WC3 version of battle.net was fine and while some improvements have been made to the ladder system (although 100 per ladder is kind of annoying as well), they completely botched several other features that they had already created in the past.
I feel like I'm playing a single player game when I open up the beta. Chat channels would actually encourage me to play it more often and I'd probably play more ladder games as well as a result.
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Probably best in another thread but can't make one yet, so:
What do you want in a chat system? How do you see it working when there are perhaps a million concurrent users?
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On May 06 2010 06:29 Ikkath wrote:
Probably best in another thread but can't make one yet, so:
What do you want in a chat system? How do you see it working when there are perhaps a million concurrent users?
The same way Starcraft and Warcraft worked, obviously.
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Oh, jolly. Maybe they'll add a button that makes a fart sound when you press it too? That actually sounds more useful than Facebook.
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what started not good is becoming shameful.
stop thinking of money ffs go balance a game instead
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am I missing something or did we always have crossgame chat between all the games that ran on battle.net? it's not even a new feature.
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On May 06 2010 06:29 Ikkath wrote:
Probably best in another thread but can't make one yet, so:
What do you want in a chat system? How do you see it working when there are perhaps a million concurrent users?
Dude, maybe instead of arguing with everyone how hard it is to make chat channels and how they're gonna somehow segregate community you make a tiny bit of effort and go and join old battle.net, so you have an idea what people actually mean by "chat channels"?
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why blizzard is adding facebook lol, but i see the point in this they just want to have a lot of Free publicity
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Ugh, I was already worried about bnet becoming more social-networking-like with its friend system, and now this? Why Blizzard, why?
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If it didnt break the eula/tos I could create (from scratch) chat channels and inject them into the sc2 process in a matter of days BY MYSELF.
Hard to believe blizz cant do it.
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LOL Chill.
I don't think it's that bad of a move, it will surely increase the popularity of the game, which in my opinion is always good.
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oh my god this is such a waste of time, get some actual chat system in place instead of this..
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On May 06 2010 00:40 celious wrote:
Man how am i supposed to dodge going out if MY FRIENDS KNOW I'M ON STARCRAFT. FML
My social life will be ruined T_T
*coughcough
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On May 06 2010 00:09 Erucious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too! HAHAHAHA On topic: I dont want all my RL friends to know what a nerd i am ...
LOLOL yeah i feel the same about it...im not even gonna link my facebook to my bnet account...
i imagine my friend say: god damn he has already 100 game player and the reset was 1 week ago...wtf..now i know why each time i call him hes always ``busy``
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does this mean i can get the cafeville achievement?? :D
also all of my friends know just how bad my addictions are, so it should be okay
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I don't dislike the feature but I do want chat rooms back in b.net. Cute facebook networking but give us chat.
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This is how it will look like:
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just what i needed, a way to lose the few remaining IRL friends i have.
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I guess it's not a terrible idea, I mean, what harm could come of it... right?
Reminds of the Twitter integration in, I think, Uncharted 2. Heard it was the most abrasive thing in existence. I know fuck all about any social networking sites, but for other's sakes, I sure hope it doesn't end up like that, with constant status updates and the like, or something equally retarded.
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On May 06 2010 07:06 InRaged wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 06:29 Ikkath wrote:
Probably best in another thread but can't make one yet, so:
What do you want in a chat system? How do you see it working when there are perhaps a million concurrent users?
Dude, maybe instead of arguing with everyone how hard it is to make chat channels and how they're gonna somehow segregate community you make a tiny bit of effort and go and join old battle.net, so you have an idea what people actually mean by "chat channels"?
Of course I have seen the channels in retro BT.net. I just don't think that would be really feasible/useful in SC2 if they hit the number of players that they are expecting.
I am sat in LZ's stream right now with close to 1200 people in the chat and its more or less pointless. Ok, you get the feeling you are not alone - but its not really useful in terms of chatting. Dunno, maybe its just me but the first thing I would do on the old BT.net was leave the public channel.
So personally I am not too bothered about chat channels and I can't see the fuss about them. Just wondered what magic channels people were beating their drums for.
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On May 06 2010 00:04 boesthius wrote:
this is completely ridiculous and unnecessary
i totally agree...Also none of my real life friends play SC
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Hmm... facebook integration interestingg. i do want LaN tho plxx
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"StarCraft is a vastly superior experience when playing against someone of equal skill as you, and that might not be your friends."
- Dustin Browder
I really don't get that whole Facebook trend. Everyone just seems to use it because "everyone uses it"... Which seems odd to me. I guess I'm missing the point.
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why are they adding facebook? so retarded.
add chat channels please, blizzard, that is what is really important.
oh and maybe you should also consider adding some decent fucking latency from this century please.
k thnx.
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what a big joke. the game needs so many features and blizzard is spending time on facebook and being able to talk to wow friends?
jesus christ what a cruel disgusting joke. i cant believe blizzard does this shit
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On May 06 2010 08:30 Maynard wrote:
You guys are nerds. This is an amazing feature IMO.
Just like to point out the irony of one guy on the TL forum calling another group of guys on the TL forum nerds over an argument they are all having about Facebook integration in an online RTS game beta.
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I don't really begrudge them for working on Facebook integration since that does seem to be the way the entire internet is moving (regardless of if YOU are doing so or not). You could make the argument that "well, they could spend their time working on chat!" but I'm sure they have a team working on chat functionality anywho, and more people on the problem wouldn't really solve anything.
They're trying to make Battle.net 2.0 a better Steam, which I'm interested to see how it works out.
I dunno, after 5 years of WoW, I'm just sort of tired of people saying "OH YOU'RE DOING COMMUNITY EVENTS WHY AREN'T YOU MAKING MORE RAIDS?!" or "OMG YOU'RE SPENDING TIME MAKING ONLINE INGAME NEWSPAPERS WHY AREN'T YOU BALANCING CLASSES!"
I'm sure they're working on more than you could possibly imagine.
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As a side note as well, isn't this website sort of self-selecting against this feature in the first place? All you folks really care about is the e-sports and balance aspects anyway, thus you don't have full care about any advanced social implementations. In such a way, you're not really the target audience for the change in the first place.
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Hate this net2.0 crap, I sure as hell hope its opt-in only and not integrated by default for people that don't want to use it at all. All this over-hyped stuff is just self perpetuating and it makes me a sad panda. Before you know it your login screen is filled with 20 "social networking" icons or similar crap.
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What, exactly, is the point of this? The last thing we need is Facebook worming its way into games...
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Didn't they already pretty much confirm Facebook integration at Blizzcon?
Either way, I think this is awesome and can't wait to see it in action. Hopefully this will actually end up informing you of people on your Facebook who start playing SC2 whom you might not otherwise have known about, obviously giving you more people to play with.
This ought to be especially useful when it comes to UMS maps, even if it won't help your 1v1 efforts much. Have a hard time finding people for a rarely played (but awesome) custom map? Just auto-spam your SC2 Facebook friends about it and voila.
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I dont want my friends to know how nerdy I am
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this is definitely a big fail, lol. I hope this is optional because I definitely do not want the hot girls I see every day knowing how much I play this game.
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On May 06 2010 00:06 Chill wrote:
Your friend Kennigit just lost a game in Starcraft II. This brings his losing streak to 97. Click here to follow and play too!
I really tried clicking that too bad it's nothing.
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Gotta respect Blizzard nowadays for following up their strong upbringing into gaming.. Nvm they took a wrong turn.
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I can't believe I was looking forward to BNET 2.0
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The big thing that bothers me here, is that to me, facebook is where I keep my RL friends. My clan website(s), xfire, etc are all ways I can keep in touch with my «I don't know you in real life, but we spend many many hours a week playing games together so we still have a friendship» friends.
I don't want to talk to my facebook friends while I'm playing Starcraft, because I'm freaking playing Starcraft.
I mean, at the limit, I could see this being integrated with WoW because it's more of a social game.And even then...
Just yeah, I do use facebook and admit it's very useful for planning events. That said, it's incredibly annoying to everyone else having to see SC2 spam, or to me if they can bother me when I don't want to be bothered.
Then again, I'm one of those guys who has a «pay as you go» cell phone and refuses 80% of his calls because he's already out with someone else.
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um. yeaaaaaaah.
What happens when some hackers come up with the Facebook Hack 2.1.
"Find out who beat your ass! Full name, date of birth, their friends' names and what country they live in! You even get their real life photos!"
.........I don't want to end up shot in RL just coz i 'cheesed' off some dude in SC2. (lol. cheesed off. hehe).
but srsly.
(Facebook has enough 'security' issues as it is).
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This is like winning a free matress when you really needed a kidney.
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i'm just gonna play SC2 off like i did with SSBB
played a shit load of melee and brood war, but not gonna buy the sequels...
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On May 06 2010 10:43 Whyzguy wrote:
This is like winning a free matress when you really needed a kidney.
ROFL LOL
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Now instead of bnet 0.5..we have bnet 0.75!
FUCK YEAH
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Brilliant move Blizzard! Now I can go 3 gate zeal, and feed my cows on Farmville at the same time!
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ok guys i dont see why this feature is getting such a bad reaction. If you have a shitload of friends on facebook of the ppl you met in college, not all of them are gonna come out and say I play starcraft 2 competitively IRL. But this way you can find out which of your RL friends plays. Before this feature you might have a bro you go surfing with every week or so, but thats all you do cause you didn't know he played SC, so now you can surf AND play SC. And if you only find that 2 of your RL buddies is on bnet, so what thats 2 more ppl you can talk about SC with while you are away from your computer.
If this feature is being done at the expense of clan support/chatrooms/watching online replays then =/ yeah thats lame, but they trying to cater to their casual players, and i think all 3 of these things WILL be introduced.
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On May 06 2010 11:23 NiGhT_mArE wrote:
ok guys i dont see why this feature is getting such a bad reaction. If you have a shitload of friends on facebook of the ppl you met in college, not all of them are gonna come out and say I play starcraft 2 competitively IRL. But this way you can find out which of your RL friends plays. Before this feature you might have a bro you go surfing with every week or so, but thats all you do cause you didn't know he played SC, so now you can surf AND play SC. And if you only find that 2 of your RL buddies is on bnet, so what thats 2 more ppl you can talk about SC with while you are away from your computer.
If this feature is being done at the expense of clan support/chatrooms/watching online replays then =/ yeah thats lame, but they trying to cater to their casual players, and i think all 3 of these things WILL be introduced.
Yes, this is a feature that only has positive effects since you can't really get harmed by having Facebook on there, but the reason why people are unhappy is because Sc2 is lacking so many essential features, and they just recently fixed people logging into other people's accounts, which a high school programmer could have gotten right the first time. Instead of doing what is essential to make sc2 playable, they add things like Facebook.
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This is the worst fuckin thing ever and a colossal waste of time. I don't like to social network on the internet (other than tl.net obv), I like to play starcraft!
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how about i dont want random people i play starcraft with on the internet to have anything to do with my personal facebook page?
if i wanted them on facebook id talk to them on msn and if i talk to them on msn thats better than having them added to facebook.
what a fucking waste of time when theres so much other CORE features missing from bnet 1 that set it apart from nonsense servers like gamespy
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On May 06 2010 08:30 Maynard wrote:
You guys are nerds. This is an amazing feature IMO.
I thought I wasn't going to laugh much after the whole 'I can add my friends on facebook, but since they live in other regions I can't play with them' bit. Then fucking Maynard out of nowhere. Ahahaha...
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really, really, stupid. Plenty of other issues to address.
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On May 06 2010 11:42 SoMuchBetter wrote:
how about i dont want random people i play starcraft with on the internet to have anything to do with my personal facebook page?
if i wanted them on facebook id talk to them on msn and if i talk to them on msn thats better than having them added to facebook.
what a fucking waste of time when theres so much other CORE features missing from bnet 1 that set it apart from nonsense servers like gamespy
Try reading how the integration works before posting this lame nonsense. It finds people you know "irl" on facebook that also have battle.net accounts. How is this a bad thing?
Also to the people who are constantly posting "they did this before adding feature X" just know that this integration would be a few days for a top programmer and a week or so for a junior intern. It is just not very difficult. Facebook has made it as easy as possible to plug into and add metadata to accounts. If you don't want other people you have on facebook also knowing that you play SC2 then don't link the account. Simple.
Now continue ranting about a feature that seems hugely misunderstood.
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On May 06 2010 11:49 Ikkath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 11:42 SoMuchBetter wrote:
how about i dont want random people i play starcraft with on the internet to have anything to do with my personal facebook page?
if i wanted them on facebook id talk to them on msn and if i talk to them on msn thats better than having them added to facebook.
what a fucking waste of time when theres so much other CORE features missing from bnet 1 that set it apart from nonsense servers like gamespy Try reading how the integration works before posting this lame nonsense. It finds people you know "irl" on facebook that also have battle.net accounts. How is this a bad thing? Also to the people who are constantly posting "they did this before adding feature X" just know that this integration would be a few days for a top programmer and a week or so for a junior intern. It is just not very difficult. Facebook has made it as easy as possible to plug into and add metadata to accounts. If you don't want other people you have on facebook also knowing that you play SC2 then don't link the account. Simple. Now continue ranting about a feature that seems hugely misunderstood.
uh-huh, and how many programmer hours would it take to fix lan, chat, rankings, server integration, and a bunch of the other things that they "are going to look at after the release." Release is July 27, so that means that a few days of programming just went into a system that no one was calling for, thereby further delaying/ preventing the addition of features players actually want.
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I'd rather have LAN functionality than this shit..
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They need to add a feature that allows your in game chats with other people to be made into Facebook statuses.
That way, every time your opponent starts trash talking you, everyone on Facebook will find out about it.
Also, I hope they connect Starcraft II to Twitter next, because that would be awesome.
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i rarely use facebook, as mentioned prefer if blizz would work towards chat, lan and rankings
playing a friend irl via bnet was laggy even though we were in 2 different rooms next to each other... about 1-1.5 sec lag not acceptable......
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If you don't like it, don't use it? Those who do like it will appreciate it. No harm done.
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I'm tired of this facebook bullshit.
Couldn't agree more with the user comments in the OP. There are so many features of this new battle.net Blizzard has either refused to deliver or been lazy about.
Next we'll see our being able to order a coffee from Starbucks while posting videos to youtube and browsing Amazon. Just make the fucking game better.
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Dont forget ordering from pizza hut straight from Bnet!
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As a reiterance, because the people who work on facebook implementation are obviously the same ones who work on balance, lag, and general server programming, and not the people who probably work on social implementation.
I also don't doubt they already have a full team on chat functionality, and that clearly more people is better.
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On May 06 2010 11:49 Ikkath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 11:42 SoMuchBetter wrote:
how about i dont want random people i play starcraft with on the internet to have anything to do with my personal facebook page?
if i wanted them on facebook id talk to them on msn and if i talk to them on msn thats better than having them added to facebook.
what a fucking waste of time when theres so much other CORE features missing from bnet 1 that set it apart from nonsense servers like gamespy Try reading how the integration works before posting this lame nonsense. It finds people you know "irl" on facebook that also have battle.net accounts. How is this a bad thing? Also to the people who are constantly posting "they did this before adding feature X" just know that this integration would be a few days for a top programmer and a week or so for a junior intern. It is just not very difficult. Facebook has made it as easy as possible to plug into and add metadata to accounts. If you don't want other people you have on facebook also knowing that you play SC2 then don't link the account. Simple. Now continue ranting about a feature that seems hugely misunderstood.
awesome how about spending those few days working on some core features instead of bullshit like facebook integration.
anyone that i care about thats interested in sc2 im aware of them already, you know through the superior social networking programs such as instant messaging services?
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I think this is rather funny for Blizzard to do this, just as Facebook has implemented another feature that links your profile (and if you refuse there are cases where they delete your profile information).
For those who enjoy Facebook, enjoy this. However I think this is a waste of resources for Blizzard because I really believe that in the long run, people will move away from Facebook to another social network. Call me foolish sure, but Facebook's continuing direction to override the privacy control of its users should hopefully come to light enough for people to move away from it before they hurt themselves.
But then again, I am an optimist.
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On May 06 2010 12:24 DougDread wrote:
I think this is rather funny for Blizzard to do this, just as Facebook has implemented another feature that links your profile (and if you refuse there are cases where they delete your profile information).
For those who enjoy Facebook, enjoy this. However I think this is a waste of resources for Blizzard because I really believe that in the long run, people will move away from Facebook to another social network. Call me foolish sure, but Facebook's continuing direction to override the privacy control of its users should hopefully come to light enough for people to move away from it before they hurt themselves.
But then again, I am an optimist.
ive only linked myself to one page, and that's TL. i hope they dont delete me
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i really hope SCII is good and this kind of things dont mess the game cause i have been waitting for this too many years
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On May 06 2010 11:42 SoMuchBetter wrote:
how about i dont want random people i play starcraft with on the internet to have anything to do with my personal facebook page?
if i wanted them on facebook id talk to them on msn and if i talk to them on msn thats better than having them added to facebook.
what a fucking waste of time when theres so much other CORE features missing from bnet 1 that set it apart from nonsense servers like gamespy
Facebook is suppose to be a series of people you know in real life. I'd say that for these 'random people' to have any connectivity via your facebook you would have to have them added as a realid friend.
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That's all fine, but what about us who don't have facebook? I demand more social network implementation.
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wtf?
Trying to get more publicity...
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So you can macro your farmville at the same time?
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What's the reason for this do they think there are people out there who for which this is a selling point?
"Well you know, I wasn't going to buy this game, but now that it's got facebook integration...."
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Oh.. my... god.
Here's the thing, Blizzard; if I want to make use of this integration and talk to friends and 'share' sc-related info/achievements/whatever.. I have to have a facebook account.... But guess what? If I have a facebook account, I'LL JUST FUCKING USE THAT!!!!!!!!!
On the other hand, if I want to play with multiple friends on bnet, watch replays, converse with local players or play with old friends from foreign areas... I'm fucked because it's on your 'to-do' list.
Like online replays were with warcraft 3. And we all know how fast you boys checked that one off your list, right? OH WAIT...
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On May 06 2010 14:11 Brett wrote:
Like online replays were with warcraft 3. And we all know how fast you boys checked that one off your list, right? OH WAIT...
All of the sudden im scared.
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If there were two things in my life that desperately needed integration, I would have to pick my Bnet account and my non-gaming-related-but-otherwise-online social life.
I can't really contribute anything more to this than what has already been said, but I only wish to add my name to the list of those who think this is an appalling waste of time, considering.
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On May 06 2010 12:04 Kyo Yuy wrote: Also, I hope they connect Starcraft II to Twitter next, because that would be awesome.
Fuck yeah. Ideally SC2 will automatically tweet "Fucking Protoss." every time I press 1, a, click, t, F10, s.
Let's work on implementing all the features from B.net 1 before screwing around with additional pointless crap.
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good to see blizzard wasting their time with useless crap like this and ingoring sutff like adding realm gateways
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Breaking News: Blizzard announces partnership with Zynga, to release the most anticipated title of all time: FarmVille: Wings of Liberty
Edit: I think Blizzard doesn't realize that we don't actually want our geeky SC lives to slip over in real life...
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Hooray, I only have 3 facebook friends that even play starcraft 2, and they're all already on my friends list. Completely useless feature. How about giving us the ability to chat with people in game, who actually play the game?
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On May 06 2010 12:16 ghosthunter wrote:
As a reiterance, because the people who work on facebook implementation are obviously the same ones who work on balance, lag, and general server programming, and not the people who probably work on social implementation.
I also don't doubt they already have a full team on chat functionality, and that clearly more people is better.
I responded to this idea on another forum:
tarpman wrote:Show nested quote +Closey wrote:
You'd think it's not the same team working on for instance the net code as it is the facebook stuff though.. No, more likely a couple of interns threw it together in a week. Facebook is pretty trivial to integrate with from what I hear. Still, from my vantage point it's basically adding insult to injury as far as stripping out features I want and replacing with them with the last thing I'd ever want.
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I really wonder why so many people here are threatend by a feature hat a. ) is completely optional
b.) Doesn't have an impact at all if not used c.) Makes managing of "real ID friends easier and gives a better overview.
Will I use it? I don't know yet. I first have to actually see how it functions exactly. I definetly have quite a lot of "Facebook-firends" who actually played BW and play now SC2 (except those unfortunate ones without a key^^)and WoW. So I am considering it, depening on how much control I have of what is being broacasted as Statusupdate. Don't want to spam everybody with useless statusupdates.
And yep I expected a Social network integration along those lines. Even the Battle.Net interface tries to mirror a Social netfork interface. So actually that isn't a big surprise.
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On May 06 2010 10:43 Whyzguy wrote:
This is like winning a free matress when you really needed a kidney.
This summarizes it with just the correct dash of amusing.
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Marketing Gimmick? who needs facebook when i have B.net! it looks like theyre trying to just expand the B.net client base. they have already suckered us in so why bother... we will still be playing regardless of added implementation.
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we are the minority. get over it.
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Perhaps I am mistaken, but Blizzard hasn't exactly specified exactly how it will be integrated, have they? It might be really innocuous, though I agree they should be using their efforts on more important stuff.
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Would you like to send your friends a portrait or decal?
Limit 6 gifts per day
Achievement: Wall in! - Posted 5 of your replays on other people's walls
Patch notes v.FB
- New micro ability - Moral: Units need to be liked to do 100% damage - 1 min like duration
- New map setting - Facebook Applyon - Bring a whole new level to social interaction and your custom games. Additional friends needed! Requires more invites!
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Hah that reply "Oh for crying out loud!" is a classic, if it wouldn't be considered harassment I would sig it. Everything he is bitching about has been addressed, guess he is just one of those guys.
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Why don't they integrate Chatroulette too while they're fucking at it.
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phew, was worried i wouldnt be able to get on sc2 without being able to talk to people on facebook at the same time, too bad they never invented an alt+tab and open browser
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Sigh.... Fuck off Blizzard.
Put some damn chat rooms in the game and let me play with my european and korean friends.
Activision is bullshit.
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Haha, welcome to capitalism guys.
Blizzard has the hugest fucking :trollface: on right now whilst saying, "Fuck Bitches, Get Money."
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rofl, the matress/kidney quote is soo golden xD
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This is ridiculous. FB integration SO makes up for not being able to play with people over the dam. If I didn't know it was social suicide, I'd happily delete my FB, I regret getting it in the first place.
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In general Blizzard seems to have their priorities in the wrong places.
However implementing this facebook integration is a rather trivial task, programmin wise, so i don't really mind it being there.
But Blizzard can't really sell Bnet2.0 as 2.0 at all, it's like ordering a BigMac menu, takin' away your precious Coca-Cola; "But we got you shots, everybody loves shots!"
...I don't know about you guys but i need my Coke!
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Blizzard is dead
Long live ACTIVISION blizzard
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On May 06 2010 19:49 heynes wrote:
Blizzard is dead
Long live ACTIVISION blizzard
Milk it baby, milk it!
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On May 06 2010 15:08 omninmo wrote:
we are the minority. get over it.
Do you really think so? In my experience the casual gamers spend even _more_ time watching replays with friends or hanging out in public chat rooms making new ones than the "hard core" crowd. Only that bnet2.0 allows for neither.
No public chat rooms so no swe-1 in which to meet locals, no cross gateway connection so no way for me to play with current friends. Oh and no lan so can't play with them even when we do happen to be in the same place.
Lacking basic social functions is not catering to "casuals" it's just sucking.
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On May 06 2010 20:02 KlaCkoN wrote:Do you really think so? In my experience the casual gamers spend even _more_ time watching replays with friends or hanging out in public chat rooms making new ones than the "hard core" crowd. Only that bnet2.0 allows for neither. No public chat rooms so no swe-1 in which to meet locals, no cross gateway connection so no way for me to play with current friends. Oh and no lan so can't play with them even when we do happen to be in the same place. Lacking basic social functions is not catering to "casuals" it's just sucking.
qft.
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Blizzard probably earned 2$ million dollars on this deal with facebook. The ONLY thought behind this is making more money. Blizzard has lost touch with their customers, and become a monster!
They just prioritize money now, in every case..
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Facebook is owned by Israelis.
Michael Morhaime, CEO of Blizzard is an Israeli/American citizen.
Just two facts..
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I mean it wont really HURT me to have facebook on bnet, woulda rather had twitter since thats useful but what the hell, why do we need it? lol
Most of my facebook friends aren't even in same country...so I couldn't play with them anyway
Geez I kinda wish they just had a BNET browser so we could just do IRC lol
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With help of facebook we can have an explosion of Starcraft gamers and ( I hope so ) evolution of progaming in eu/us. This can start a new era of gaming as a cerieer.
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Do you people even realize that this is completely optional? This is the most ridiculous overreaction I've seen in a long time.
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On May 06 2010 20:16 IrVeNoJu wrote:
With help of facebook we can have an explosion of Starcraft gamers and ( I hope so ) evolution of progaming in eu/us. This can start a new era of gaming as a cerieer.
Yeah, clearly facebook integration will deter all the casuals from realizing RTS is too hard for them.
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On May 06 2010 20:53 Lollersauce wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:16 IrVeNoJu wrote:
With help of facebook we can have an explosion of Starcraft gamers and ( I hope so ) evolution of progaming in eu/us. This can start a new era of gaming as a cerieer.
Yeah, clearly facebook integration will deter all the casuals from realizing RTS is too hard for them.
except that starcraft 2 is infinity easier to learn than 1....
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yes! thank you blizzard for implementing this instead of letting us use diffrent gateways! lets connect people but still have them disconnected. YOU'RE JUST SO AWESOME!
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oh and please dont add online replays, chat-channel or clans anytime soon, this will take care of EEEEVERYTHING
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On May 06 2010 21:49 Julmust wrote:
yes! thank you blizzard for implementing this instead of letting us use diffrent gateways! lets connect people but still have them disconnected. YOU'RE JUST SO AWESOME!
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oh and please dont add online replays, chat-channel or clans anytime soon, this will take care of EEEEVERYTHING
Not soGood thinking! If we use non-reverse psychology on blizzard they might not fix all our non-requests and features that so shouldn't have been there the whole time!
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On May 06 2010 20:56 tnud wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:53 Lollersauce wrote:On May 06 2010 20:16 IrVeNoJu wrote:
With help of facebook we can have an explosion of Starcraft gamers and ( I hope so ) evolution of progaming in eu/us. This can start a new era of gaming as a cerieer.
Yeah, clearly facebook integration will deter all the casuals from realizing RTS is too hard for them. except that starcraft 2 is infinity easier to learn than 1....
It's still a genre that any casual will get stomped at. It just requires too much speed and attention split between too many things.
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Brendan wrote on your wall: (23 minutes ago)
Fkn noob... all u do is that 1 trick congrats on winning that game u fkn nerd
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To show my protest I will hack Facebook accounts that are tied to Bnet2.0 accounts.
There is no place for absolutely retarded social network in a competitive gaming platform.
I still don't believe this and prefer to think I got trolled.
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lol @ the 31 people who voted for "yay i was hoping for this"
are you fking serious lol
no channels and fb integration?
wtf do you think facebook is for, connecting with friends
why would you integrate it with bnet its not like you can do much - its not that hard to click add friend, type their name/identifier and click ok ???
if theres no channels then fml .... this is probably the most stupid thing by blizz lol or maybe theyre just making more money
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(conspiracy theory) God forbid, Blizzard introduces ads in Battle.net, with Facebook (notorious for their customer privacy), they will know exactly with what to spam you  And, of course, vice versa.
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Using a different email then my facebook account as I don't want 500+ Facebook "Your friend did this" emails. So I doubt I'll integrate anything.
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Moreso than the other questionable decisions, this one boggles the mind.
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Looking forward to converting minerals to farm cash.
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guys wtf, like this is awesome. I hope it updates my status automatically. Like, I went standard 9 pool, but instead of teching i went to banelings!!!
Rickilicious is 'Went Banelings instead of Lair. His opponents will surely rage lol when they see this noob copper mistake.'
No but seriously, this is probably the worst idea ever.
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The question should all ask yourselves:
"How can I make money out of it?"
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not a bad idea, but I really think Blizzard should work on other things, things the community has ask for...
PD: I do have a lot of StarCraft players on Facebook, help me to contact players from Central America, what can I said....
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This is all Activision and not Blizzard, just realize that AB is a huge ass company with business interests
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And on this day, a little piece of everyone's unwavering faith in Blizzard died... a slow painful death.
1. No chat at release
2. $60 Reg edition/$100 CE (Higher than normal)
3. No multi-national gaming (ie region dependent versions)
4. No online replays
5. No over all ladder
6. No LAN... ever (until 3rd party hacks)
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This is probably what delayed B.net 2.0, right? hahaha
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On May 07 2010 00:55 Spidermonkey wrote:
And on this day, a little piece of everyone's unwavering faith in Blizzard died... a slow painful death.
1. No chat at release
2. $60 Reg edition/$100 CE (Higher than normal)
3. No multi-national gaming (ie region dependent versions)
4. No online replays
5. No over all ladder
6. No LAN... ever (until 3rd party hacks)
I think I remember how the second and third starcraft 2 (protoss and zerg) was originally just the single player that differed, now they are expansions.
So 60+40+40 (hopefully! prob 60+60+60 = 180..) for the full game. 140 *3 (+shipping) for global starcraft 2.
420$ (or 540) +
http://starcraftrankings.com/ (sorry guys, but a real-time ladder would be better) +
external chat solution (TL IRC to the rescue!) +
external clan solution (dunno, some standard how to name your character + IRC + website) +
external send my screen to you/count down from 3 on skype (to watch a replay with a friend) +
3rd party LAN hack and the risk of viruses/getting your account with all your games banned
:/
EDIT: a bit negative, but truth.
also, LAN support (and hamachi) removes the need for two points on the list (and lowers cost to 140). Not a bad deal for something AS FRIKKING BASIC AS LAN.
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GREAT! Now if I get a msg from a friend in the middle of the game, it will throw me off! WTF BLIZZARD! Facebook is virtually useless. Why would you add something useless to one of the greatest games of all time, making it worse?! If im playing SC2, Im most likely not going to want to talk to my friends that are on facebook!! Drama goes on on facebook! Gaming happens on SC2. The 2 dont mix. Get it straight please...
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If I don't have a facebook account or any relation with facebook whatsoever, will facebook still get my data? I'd be very upset if this was the case.
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On May 07 2010 01:46 spinesheath wrote:
If I don't have a facebook account or any relation with facebook whatsoever, will facebook still get my data? I'd be very upset if this was the case.
Yeah, I guess we need an answer to that one, I really would rather stay out of facebook db's.
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Id imagine it being completely optional
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On May 07 2010 02:29 Snowfield wrote:
Id imagine it being completely optional
I would imagine that too if it was just Blizzard. But we also have Activision and especially Facebook involved into this, so I am not so sure...
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So can I play Farmville or however that crap is named while playing SC2 ? cool...
Seriously, on Facebook I am actually 25, female and kinda attractive lol, so gimme a point to that feature...
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On May 06 2010 08:06 Ikkath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 07:06 InRaged wrote:On May 06 2010 06:29 Ikkath wrote:
Probably best in another thread but can't make one yet, so:
What do you want in a chat system? How do you see it working when there are perhaps a million concurrent users?
Dude, maybe instead of arguing with everyone how hard it is to make chat channels and how they're gonna somehow segregate community you make a tiny bit of effort and go and join old battle.net, so you have an idea what people actually mean by "chat channels"? Of course I have seen the channels in retro BT.net. I just don't think that would be really feasible/useful in SC2 if they hit the number of players that they are expecting. I am sat in LZ's stream right now with close to 1200 people in the chat and its more or less pointless. Ok, you get the feeling you are not alone - but its not really useful in terms of chatting. Dunno, maybe its just me but the first thing I would do on the old BT.net was leave the public channel. So personally I am not too bothered about chat channels and I can't see the fuss about them. Just wondered what magic channels people were beating their drums for.
nice trolling dude
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Hmm, facebook integration huh sounds a little over powered to me
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So umm, I don't pretend to be an expert ere but I don't feel that battle.net 2 is being done by one guy and this one guy is being told "CHAT?! FRELL CHAT DO FACEBOOK!" So why does it sound like you guys think it is. Plenty of people working in groups doing several things at once is generally how these kind of things are done. The guys working on say facebook integration would have about as much idea on how to balance the game as some guy off the street I would figure. So no I wouldn't want them balancing the game. I'd like the people working on balancing the game to.. balance the game.
Please feel free to drop an application to them if you feel you can do a better job thou, seriously go for it. I've been told Blizzard is hiring.
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I suppose starcraft 2 is supposed to be the devolution of everything that is attached to it.
Let's remove moving shot guys! Next we can add mechanics to make shit easier! THEN! We can sack some units and make others that much more horrible! Oh man, I know! Let's remove channels from BNET and replace it with some sort of FACEBOOK INTEGRATION! Shit I think I'm on a roll!
Although, I do have to admit, I really like the way 1v1 matches are being played. I would honestly just click one button to play a 1v1 than filter through a shit ton of games in a list. I do hope that Blizzard has some way of playing UMS games with the entire community though, otherwise that'd just be fuckin retarded. If Blizzard thinks all my ~real life~ friends play starcraft they are sadly mistaken.
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i love how we don't get chat channels at release, instead we get this shit.
Bravo blizz
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On May 07 2010 04:27 afiddy wrote:
I suppose starcraft 2 is supposed to be the devolution of everything that is attached to it.
Let's remove moving shot guys! Next we can add mechanics to make shit easier! THEN! We can sack some units and make others that much more horrible! Oh man, I know! Let's remove channels from BNET and replace it with some sort of FACEBOOK INTEGRATION! Shit I think I'm on a roll!
Although, I do have to admit, I really like the way 1v1 matches are being played. I would honestly just click one button to play a 1v1 than filter through a shit ton of games in a list. I do hope that Blizzard has some way of playing UMS games with the entire community though, otherwise that'd just be fuckin retarded. If Blizzard thinks all my ~real life~ friends play starcraft they are sadly mistaken.
The thing is, Warcraft 3 has had a good auto-match-making system. It was released in 2003, it was a big deal then. It's basically expected now... much like chat channels (hint hint blizzard).
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On May 07 2010 05:13 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 04:27 afiddy wrote:
I suppose starcraft 2 is supposed to be the devolution of everything that is attached to it.
Let's remove moving shot guys! Next we can add mechanics to make shit easier! THEN! We can sack some units and make others that much more horrible! Oh man, I know! Let's remove channels from BNET and replace it with some sort of FACEBOOK INTEGRATION! Shit I think I'm on a roll!
Although, I do have to admit, I really like the way 1v1 matches are being played. I would honestly just click one button to play a 1v1 than filter through a shit ton of games in a list. I do hope that Blizzard has some way of playing UMS games with the entire community though, otherwise that'd just be fuckin retarded. If Blizzard thinks all my ~real life~ friends play starcraft they are sadly mistaken. The thing is, Warcraft 3 has had a good auto-match-making system. It was released in 2003, it was a big deal then. It's basically expected now... much like chat channels (hint hint blizzard).
Chat channels make everything too easy. SC2 needs a high skill cap.
/still not serious
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Blizz is now a steaming heap of shit company with shit games designed only to seek your wallet, and after being banned for saying such anti-fan things on this forum in the past, such news and the shitstorm it incited in this thread can't help but vindicate me and my opinions on this forum.
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On May 07 2010 05:34 9876543210987654321 wrote:
Blizz is now a steaming heap of shit company with shit games designed only to seek your wallet, and after being banned for saying such anti-fan things on this forum in the past, such news and the shitstorm it incited in this thread can't help but vindicate me and my opinions on this forum.
i wouldn't be surprised to see this forum ban you again despite whatever vindication you may feel you have achieved on this forum. this forum however will miss you very much since you post so eloquently on this forum. this forum.
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I don't know how they think not having chat channels is a good idea.
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Now I'm not getting the game on the 27th. I'm gonna wait and see how exactly this facebook integration looks like. And if there is any automated information leaking between the two, I'm not gonna buy it.
Strange, considering how much I obsessed over this game in the last few months.
But it's getting downright evil. I better delete my battle net account before any of this gets online,
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Guess what, you can't delete your battle.net account. Evil. So I just entered bogus data everywhere, and hope the database has no history apart from the backups. I'm done with that shit.
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On May 06 2010 00:05 iNfeRnaL wrote:
... this is pretty sad
Yup, I'd much rather have better latency, LAN, replay hosting, real channels, clans and teams, and the single player in the beta!!
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Wait a second - Facebook is banned here in China, so I can't use this "cool" feature here. Blizzard should start negotiations with the Chinese government immediatly instead of wasting their time with KeSPA - the Chinese need their SC2 Facebook gimmicks !!!!
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On May 07 2010 05:41 ZaplinG wrote:
I don't know how they think not having chat channels is a good idea.
Cause Steam and XBoxLive don't have channels probably.
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I guess I'm late to this, but did Blizzard really say no clans/teams on sc2? We have to 'do our own thing' in sc2 for clans?
Am I getting this right....?
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On May 07 2010 12:24 CowGoMoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 05:41 ZaplinG wrote:
I don't know how they think not having chat channels is a good idea. Cause Steam and XBoxLive don't have channels probably.
Steam has channels, you can set them up yourself.
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On May 07 2010 12:58 Joey.rumz wrote:
I guess I'm late to this, but did Blizzard really say no clans/teams on sc2? We have to 'do our own thing' in sc2 for clans?
Am I getting this right....?
I think it is on the "to do"-list which can mean that it will come with a patch or they wait until everyone forgets about it - 'never' (like the new WarCraft 3 patch with the upcoming balance changes, we have been waiting for 2 years or more now...)
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i think it's a great feature although I'm not a facebook fan..
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Ok, please say it doesn't automatically link your Battle.net account to Facebook? I deleted that shit and don't want it activated again.
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does caring mostly about the commercial aspects of your product rather than the actual quality of the game makes blizzard a cold & heartless company that only cares for its profits?
Well, I let you decide...
+ Show Spoiler +...but the answer is yes/
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On May 07 2010 12:24 CowGoMoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 05:41 ZaplinG wrote:
I don't know how they think not having chat channels is a good idea. Cause Steam and XBoxLive don't have channels probably.
...have you used steam? it has groups and channels and you can pretty much make a new one whenever you want without any real restrictions. imo it's a great way to keep track of which friends you play with for different games.
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The comments added to the OP are 100% perfect. I couldn't agree more.
If all that remains true until release, it will be quite quite sad. With all the possibility the game had. ICCup has lan-latency, even WC3 has Clans, WoW has guilds, old battle-net had chatrooms, and so far we cant add ANY numbers or punctuation to our Handle... seriously... why NOT all these things? It's nothing new, its just integrating old stuff. I'm sure they think facebook will help them sell games. They are obviously confused about who their audience is going to be.
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On May 07 2010 12:19 Damian wrote:
Wait a second - Facebook is banned here in China, so I can't use this "cool" feature here. Blizzard should start negotiations with the Chinese government immediatly instead of wasting their time with KeSPA - the Chinese need their SC2 Facebook gimmicks !!!!
LOL. LMAO OH GOD I can't stop laughing at this. Damian, if you ever get a Facebook account, Will you be my Facebook friend? LOL
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Tweeter would be good.
"Damn, I just beat this noob so bad. He just without GGing. ^.^"
How aewsome.
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You people are looking way too deep into this <.<
Integrating new features to increase the visibility of the game (potentially to increase sales) does not mean sacrificing quality. Blizzard know what they're doing; it's their game.
About information being posted on Facebook, if you have an issue with people knowing that you play Starcraft, then it's necessary to reconsider why you think it would be an issue. It's possible that you are in a state of denial.
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great...now every time i win a match, i will be asked i want to share the rewards with my friends on fb. =_=
really now blizzard...you might as well integrate twitter too...
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On May 10 2010 10:58 blahman3344 wrote:
great...now every time i win a match, i will be asked i want to share the rewards with my friends on fb. =_=
really now blizzard...you might as well integrate twitter too...
Achievement Unlocked! - FB Spammer
You have shared your replays with over 100 facebook friends! keep up the good work.
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This wouldn't bother me so much if i could just have my chatrooms back
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There is no way I'm linking my battle.net ID to my facebook. Maybe we should try a boycott and show blizzard how useful we think this feature is.
I understand that spam is the bane of everyone's existence but no chat rooms??? Good thing we have vent and irc
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this is much more useful then hosted replays.... blizz
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On May 07 2010 12:24 CowGoMoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 05:41 ZaplinG wrote:
I don't know how they think not having chat channels is a good idea. Cause Steam and XBoxLive don't have channels probably.
Its like Blizz admiting that Stream and XBoxLive >>> than battlenet and we have to copy them blindly.
Most of us dont want Bnet 2 =Stream, we just want Bnet 2 = Bnet 1 + extra features
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On May 09 2010 09:00 dNo_O wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 12:24 CowGoMoo wrote:On May 07 2010 05:41 ZaplinG wrote:
I don't know how they think not having chat channels is a good idea. Cause Steam and XBoxLive don't have channels probably. ...have you used steam? it has groups and channels and you can pretty much make a new one whenever you want without any real restrictions. imo it's a great way to keep track of which friends you play with for different games.
Even if Steam didn't have channels, the way it's designed to not run the relevant games at the same time means that using other chat applications at the same time is less intrusive--it's pretty normal to be on IRC with Steam in the background and jump in a game on moment's notice. By contrast, the way B.net 2.0 is set up, you either have to be alt-tabbing back and forth, or be playing in windowed mode, both of which are not ideal.
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What happened to not releasing the game until it's "Blizzard Quality?" I sense shenanigans.
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Personally I hate Facebook, because it takes too much time to "flip through the pages" and to make your own one look awesome. We are turning into a society of purely digital lives and that isnt good. At least I wont like it to live in the Matrix. The time spent to browse a forum or update Facebook should instead be spent in the real world and adding Facebook to the game is just an easy way to promote the game and get more customers. It doesnt actually improve the game itself and is consequently a waste of resources IMO ...
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this game is supposed to ship in just over and month, and THIS is supposed to convince me that the game is ready and good to go? no f-ing way. before the beta came out i would have jumped at the chance to preorder sc2, now its a sad pathetic shell of a game to me, making me think more and more that all of blizzard's successes have been a succession of flukes one after the other.
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Great idea to implement facebook, everybody will know that I'm a geek playing a video game days and night.
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The game's going to be cracked already to add LAN back in, so Blizzard can suck it.
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This is not necessarily a bad thing, as it will probly promote E-Sports in the western world.
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This is clearly a business decision and has nothing to do with functionality. I believe facebook is paying some kind of royalty to get onto b.net. Activision only cares for profits if you guys haven't figured that out. So buy their stock
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On May 14 2010 03:56 jungsu wrote:
The game's going to be cracked already to add LAN back in, so Blizzard can suck it.
you just read my mind ! No chat room and no LAN is fucked up, It's like Blizzard is begging for pirate servers to spawn everywhere.
Is there any kind of justification by Blizz on how Facebook is going to be positive for SC2 coz I fail to see the point ?
On a sidenote : If there's no LAN feature, how exactly are you supposed to hold an offline tourney let alone a televised league ? Maybe they think the progamers will just play custom games with a stone age latency on BNET 2.0 ?
I've never been bitching about balance because I know it's a real hard job but man, Bilzzard really failed with lan and chatrooms.
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lol i hate facebook so much
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"dear blizzard." My bnet account got hacked, now they have my facebook profile as well. Plz help."
HHAHAAHAHAHAHAA ;P no srsly its that bad. I was really hopeing that we could make clans and have cake parties.
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On May 11 2010 17:21 Rabiator wrote:
Personally I hate Facebook, because it takes too much time to "flip through the pages" and to make your own one look awesome. We are turning into a society of purely digital lives and that isnt good. At least I wont like it to live in the Matrix. The time spent to browse a forum or update Facebook should instead be spent in the real world and adding Facebook to the game is just an easy way to promote the game and get more customers. It doesnt actually improve the game itself and is consequently a waste of resources IMO ...
Living in the matrix would be lame but playing games in the matrix would pretty bad ass. I don't know about you but I'd be all for virtual reality games.
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On May 11 2010 17:21 Rabiator wrote:
Personally I hate Facebook, because it takes too much time to "flip through the pages" and to make your own one look awesome. We are turning into a society of purely digital lives and that isnt good. At least I wont like it to live in the Matrix. The time spent to browse a forum or update Facebook should instead be spent in the real world and adding Facebook to the game is just an easy way to promote the game and get more customers. It doesnt actually improve the game itself and is consequently a waste of resources IMO ...
That's because Facebook isn't a place to show off, it's a place to connect and commute. No one should be trying to have an "awesome Facebook page."
Your argument has a lot of conflicting arguments and ones that don't tie in together. Time spent browsing FB will be better spent irl, but what about gaming in general? It is certainly detrimental to time spent out there as well.
I do agree that Blizzard might have been better off not concentrating on it, but I'm not really sure how their company functions in terms of how the work is divided/how long it takes to implement this/etc.
I'm mainly curious to see how this implementation takes effect in and out of the game.
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living in the matrix would be awesome i dunno wtf you guys are talking about
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Your friend appears to require more minerals, click here to send more and enter starville.
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Yay, I am already burning with desire to post all my achiements on my facebook page!!!
Honestly, that's the most useless retarded feature ever...
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i cant wait for all the girls in my school to see that I just hit 1900 plat and that I finished the whole terran campaign on hardest difficulty
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On May 20 2010 09:31 BDF92 wrote:
i cant wait for all the girls in my school to see that I just hit 1900 plat and that I finished the whole terran campaign on hardest difficulty
After showing that you've stayed up all night to do it of course.
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Now i can be a proud nerd...
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Hmm. I wonder Blizzard is just doing marketing stuff like this at first to get sales then once people are hooked they are going to actually work on making the game good. I mean as it stands its pretty good to most of the casual gamers.
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Seriously? =/
There seem to be a lot more pressing issues to solve before release
Like Zerg. All of Zerg.
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On May 20 2010 09:39 Grobyc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 09:31 BDF92 wrote:
i cant wait for all the girls in my school to see that I just hit 1900 plat and that I finished the whole terran campaign on hardest difficulty After showing that you've stayed up all night to do it of course.
Don't forget to include that it was a Friday night.
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Starcraft added Facebook integration,
Imagine my complete embarrassment,
Friends see my in-game retardation,
Can't even fight off reaper harassment
Sure they'll tell me it's so I'm social,
But I skip parties to work on my cheese,
This makes my being a prick official,
My void rays mean nobody ever GGs,
And there'd have been less of my crying,
If t'weren't written for all the gawkers,
"Sonnet is writing in game, micro dying,
Click here to control Sonnet's stalkers!"
I can't help but find myself agreeing,
Wish I could type like a human being
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IT LOOKS SO FUCKING BAD!!!
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way to fucking ruin adding friends, blizzard.
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Organizing tournaments just got a whole lot more fun!
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Kennigit
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Is this some kind of joke or am i missing something? I can only add friends via facebook or real id? Can i have some privacy please?
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Yeah I'm going to have to agree here with the above. What a joke.
To be fair, you can add non-real ID friends by clicking on their names in postgame lobby, etc. but still terrible.
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On May 21 2010 08:51 Sonnet wrote:
Starcraft added Facebook integration,
Imagine my complete embarrassment,
Friends see my in-game retardation,
Can't even fight off reaper harassment
Sure they'll tell me it's so I'm social,
But I skip parties to work on my cheese,
This makes my being a prick official,
My void rays mean nobody ever GGs,
And there'd have been less of my crying,
If t'weren't written for all the gawkers,
"Sonnet is writing in game, micro dying,
Click here to control Sonnet's stalkers!"
I can't help but find myself agreeing,
Wish I could type like a human being
Iambic pentameter means more than "ten syllables in a line", you know.
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Kennigit
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On May 22 2010 10:54 TieN.nS) wrote:
Yeah I'm going to have to agree here with the above. What a joke.
To be fair, you can add non-real ID friends by clicking on their names in postgame lobby, etc. but still terrible.
Oh ok. At least i can do that...still...this is terrible lol.
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Are you for real BLIZZARD? WTF, I can't add random people? This is retarted!!!
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Bnet just scanned my friends on facebook totaling ~1500.. And guess what? None of them had battle.net accounts apparently. Great feature Blizz
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It seems like they always hear half of the fanbase's complaints.
They hear "the system for adding friends is retarded", so they change it... making it even more retarded.
They hear "identifiers are retarded", so they remove them... without adding the capability for non-alphanumeric characters in usernames.
They hear "Ultralisks are terrible", so they nerf them even more.
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Lol this is so bad now.
Can't add a simple username anymore have to give them access to full name + email account you're using for it.
Wow. ( wow @ how well this change seems to have been thought out and tested internally before being rolled out ).
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What the hell is this?
Why can't I add people without giving them the name on the account? Is this serious?
If anyone finds a workaround please post ASAP.
I have some internets friends that really don't need my IRL name.
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This is so utterly retarded... if they were trying to find a way to make me lose any faith.. they are doing it with Patch 13. Hopefully that's not planned.
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What are you guys so angry about? Facebook integration is obviously superior to chat channels for a multitude of reasons. It allows you to connect with other people from your high school who play, who you were such good friends with that you never wanted to meet in the first place. It lets you have conversations with one person at a time, which is like chat channels without the clutter. Even better, if there's some people you want to meet, now you can just friend them on facebook and talk to them, right? Obviously, blizzard has been working really hard on this because they care about the community and about making Starcraft 2 a major e-sport. Why is everyone so mad?
/trollin
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How dare they roll out a feature that hasn't been fully tested out during a beta?
Those fuckers.
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Until today, I've managed it to live in a civilized world with a computer and internet connection, and without registering to Facebook. Now this Battle.net crap is adding me there with my full name or what? This is sick.
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i searched all my facebook friends 200 or so and surprisingly not a single one has a b.net account.... wow never expected that.
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On May 22 2010 23:37 AdunToridas wrote:
Until today, I've managed it to live in a civilized world with a computer and internet connection, and without registering to Facebook. Now this Battle.net crap is adding me there with my full name or what? This is sick.
Isn't it an optional feature to use?
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On May 22 2010 23:38 HoracE wrote:
i searched all my facebook friends 200 or so and surprisingly not a single one has a b.net account.... wow never expected that.
3 friends from 600 friends! the kidney quote is pretty good.
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It's an optional feature.
I liked being able to insta add all my close friends. I liked the addition.
Why is everybody flaming for Blizzard doing this, some people wanted it, some people got it. Customer friendly and commercial.
After reading I just got the idea that most people get a reality shock when pressing the button add friends and get back -You have no friends-.
It's not like their entire development team started working on it...
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alabasta the reason i dont like it has nothing to do with the above, it's because it is THE ONLY way to add friends. I know that none of my RL friends play computer games they are too busy getting drunk, so because of this I know I will most likely without chat channels be left playin randoms through the matchmaking system - this isn't xbox live - SC had a real community feel before this.
i.e. chat channels + facebook great good for everyone - no chat channels but facebook disaster!
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You can still type the e-mail of the person you want to add?
It becomes a bit more personal and your less eager to give your e-mail away, thats true though.
Edit: I'm sure chat channels will be an upcoming feature and shouldn't be that hard to implement, but to start shouting and flaming is overkill tbh.
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On May 22 2010 23:44 Alabasta wrote:Why is everybody flaming for Blizzard doing this, some people wanted it, some people got it. Customer friendly and commercial.
Who are these people and where can i find them!?
I find it disgusting how free anonymity as a gamer completely gets thrown out of the window by integrating these "social" features who really do nothing but isolate the player or now person to a surrounding that has nothing to do with gaming in the first place.
But whatever. Fact of the matter for me is, i don't stay in Battle.net 2.0 any more than i need. Speak i play my games, then i leave. There's nothing else to do in this thing. Is that what Blizzard wants? Is that the new Battle.Net 2.0 experience? For a community the most simplest tools are the best. Doing things TOGETHER. Watch replays TOGETHER. Chat with EACH OTHER.
There's just apparently too many WoW or FPS guys at Blizzard who have no clue whatsoever how much we RTS players profited from bnet 1.0 everyday.
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Come on blizzard, work on something we actually NEED! No one wants this useless facebook integration..
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I don't see why people are raging about this right now.
If the game ships with things missing, then there will be a problem. But the order that they add things in the *beta* hardly matters at all. You don't see people making threads going "OMG WHER IS CAMPAIN MODE, IM CANCELING MY GAME NOBODY WANTS TO JUST PLAY ONLINE BLIZZARD SUCKS WE WANT SINGLE PLAYER"
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On May 23 2010 00:14 Backpack wrote:
I don't see why people are raging about this right now.
If the game ships with things missing, then there will be a problem. But the order that they add things in the *beta* hardly matters at all. You don't see people making threads going "OMG WHER IS CAMPAIN MODE, IM CANCELING MY GAME NOBODY WANTS TO JUST PLAY ONLINE BLIZZARD SUCKS WE WANT SINGLE PLAYER"
We are raging because Blizzard has no plans to implement LAN, and if they introduce chat channels it will be a new fucked up system. Blizzard really is fucking everything up, just get on and look.
edit, and to the best of my knowledge they aren't implementing watching replays with friends.
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with all the privacy issue with facebook, im surprised they are still trying to do this
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On May 23 2010 00:14 Backpack wrote:
I don't see why people are raging about this right now.
If the game ships with things missing, then there will be a problem. But the order that they add things in the *beta* hardly matters at all. You don't see people making threads going "OMG WHER IS CAMPAIN MODE, IM CANCELING MY GAME NOBODY WANTS TO JUST PLAY ONLINE BLIZZARD SUCKS WE WANT SINGLE PLAYER"
dude there is no reason to test single player - they can do that on thier own. its the stuff that requires interaction between players that requires balance and patching. so if there is signifigant stuff missing that needs testing, then that is an issue
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None of my friends on facebook play this game and if they did I wouldn't have a problem using real ID to add them since they already know my name and one of my email addresses.
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rofl over 300 fb friends and not only 2 of them have bnet accounts but i have them on friends already, joke feature.. most people use another email
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ＴＯＫＥN ＲｅｓentmＥnt:
I can now add my friends in Asia and Europe to my friend's list and yet we can't play together.
I hope you get AIDS Blizzard. All your money will be enough to cure you... just enough.
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why not just ignore Facebook?
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blizzard needs to stop acting like a bunch of bad politicians and go back to being a company that makes games with updates that people actually want and ask for.
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All I know is, they're really starting to piss off the wrong players. I don't see the longetivity of this game surpassing the original.
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On May 23 2010 01:48 StarStruck wrote:
All I know is, they're really starting to piss off the wrong players. I don't see the longetivity of this game surpassing the original.
I don't see it surpassing the longetivity of the beta
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On May 23 2010 01:45 Champi wrote:
blizzard needs to stop acting like a bunch of bad politicians and go back to being a company that makes games with updates that people actually want and ask for.
Updates that people actually want and ask for ? How man, you perfectly know that facebook is way more important than any gameplay issue everybody is pointing out on this forum (and so many others).
Warning : this message may contain a sarcasm.
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On May 23 2010 02:21 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2010 01:48 StarStruck wrote:
All I know is, they're really starting to piss off the wrong players. I don't see the longetivity of this game surpassing the original. I don't see it surpassing the longetivity of the beta
i'm not worried..if this game turned out to be a piece of shit, we all have a fall back =)
good old BW!!!!! forever~~
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i hope so much u all guys post this to blizzard in the bnet forums to !!
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On May 06 2010 00:05 Scorch wrote:Poll: Battle.net 2.0 connected to FacebookBah! Blizz should spend their time on useful stuff! (964) 83% I don't care. (132) 11% Yay! I was hoping for this! (70) 6% 1166 total votes Your vote: Battle.net 2.0 connected to Facebook (Vote): Yay! I was hoping for this!
(Vote): Bah! Blizz should spend their time on useful stuff!
(Vote): I don't care.
I'm neither surprised nor amused.
look at that, 56 miss-clicks
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On May 23 2010 02:21 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2010 01:48 StarStruck wrote:
All I know is, they're really starting to piss off the wrong players. I don't see the longetivity of this game surpassing the original. I don't see it surpassing the longetivity of the beta
Zing!
On a serious note, Blizzard made a deal with FB to create a half-assed platform in exchange for $$$ from FB. Stop screwing around and create something decent for the fans Blizzard. The game is great, but Battle.net 2.0 feels like a relic from 2001. Where the hell is the innovation?
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blizzard this is the ultimate low blow, id like to say a lot worse but because i am respectful of teamliquid's forums, i will just say this, eat it
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oh my god.. doesn't blizzard realize I have no life and no facebook page?
This could bring alot of noob blood into starcraft tho, and that's good for the community.. it's a PR stunt. I don't think the hardcore fans are meant to care about it or even like it.
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On May 23 2010 02:38 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 00:05 Scorch wrote:Poll: Battle.net 2.0 connected to FacebookBah! Blizz should spend their time on useful stuff! (964) 83% I don't care. (132) 11% Yay! I was hoping for this! (70) 6% 1166 total votes Your vote: Battle.net 2.0 connected to Facebook (Vote): Yay! I was hoping for this!
(Vote): Bah! Blizz should spend their time on useful stuff!
(Vote): I don't care.
I'm neither surprised nor amused. look at that, 56 miss-clicks
GOD I JUST MISCLICKED cuz i assumed the top voting thing was for the top graph >< F*** the facebook thing give us back what we grew up loving, channels and clans and competition. I cant wait to sign up for a tournament and have to give out all my personal information in order to play, WOO!!!!
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I'm not annoyed that they added facebook integration.
I'm annoyed that they prioritized it.
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It really feels like a kick in the face to see that facebook icon when virtually nothing you actually want is implemented in bnet 2.0. It's like salt in the wound
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.......... was farming when they found a Wandering Zergling! .......... wants their friends to help the Wandering Zergling by giving him shelter for the night.
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I think that a good thing to do would be to get a representative of us, the players, some1 whose word and opinion mean something in the sc community ( artosis maybe? ), to do an interview with dustin browder, some1 who can address all these issues SERIOUSLY AND FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF US,THE GAMERS, while there is still time to change them. Because at this rate, when sc2 comes out, we'll have this awesome bnet 2.0 with all of it's cool features. And I for one, would really like to hear what the man in charge has to say. and with no bullshit incomplete answers like in the interviews before. too bad there's almost no chance of that happening...
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The FB integration is ok, Just tried it now. None of my friends are on it (But then the battle.net account emails of my friends is not the same as those on their facebooks). It would be cool for my RL friends on FB to be able to find me on bnet, makes it easier for them to find me.
At least it doesn't spam my FB page with stuff like "LaustinSpayce has earned the Solo Protoss 5 Achievement!" "LaustinSpayce needs 3 buddies to 6 pool! Sign up to FarmCraft and help him get his mafia gang to dominate the kingdom!"
I just don't understand the rage about this FB thing.
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I don't even have a facebook acount....
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I'm lost, how are you people still complaining about the facebook integration? The first thing you guys complained about was the fact that it would interfere with your privacy/meld with your real facebook/etc. Now we see that all it does is allow you to CHOOSE who you want to add to your bnet friends list from your facebook friends? I for one see absolutely no problem with this, and you guys are no worse than the guys talking about 2012 being the end of the world. "OH NO FACEBOOK SC2 GONNA FAIL!"
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So, Facebook is implemented into Battle.net 2.0 and Blizzard can get information from Facebook. However, my gravest concern is: Is the opposite also true?
Is Battle.net 2.0 giving information to Facebook? Can people on Facebook see a list of my buddy's SC2 friends (i.e. me), and start sending notifications to my battle.net related e-mail about getting my ass onto Facebook? Or even worse, if that buddy of mine doesn't bother fixing his privacy options, will everyone, not only his friends, be able to see my full, real name, e-mail address and battle.net account?
Not that it matters much to me personally, as I won't add a single RealID friend until I can choose not be shown to friends of friends. But it's an important issue nonetheless.
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So you know that bnet 2.0 is gonna be used for all future games from blizzard? e.g. WOW is full of nerds(just like tl.net is comprised of almost only nerds) and to some extent not so nerdy people as well, people who actually become friends whom then go on to meet up more than three or four times a year at blizzcon, tl.net meetings etc. You know those people? they might actually like this. They might like it so much its worth it to blizz to add this kind of feature. Perhaps thinking about bnet 2.0 for what it is, a social utility, and not solely as a matchmaking service for starcraft(as it were for sc1 and wc3) will make you rage less and actually understand why blizz did this. But once being a total nerd I get it, it's hard to think outside your own comfort zone and when things dont make sense it's irritating.
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On May 23 2010 04:43 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
So you know that bnet 2.0 is gonna be used for all future games from blizzard? e.g. WOW is full of nerds(just like tl.net is comprised of almost only nerds) and to some extent not so nerdy people as well, people who actually become friends whom then go on to meet up more than three or four times a year at blizzcon, tl.net meetings etc. You know those people? they might actually like this. They might like it so much its worth it to blizz to add this kind of feature. Perhaps thinking about bnet 2.0 for what it is, a social utility, and not solely as a matchmaking service for starcraft(as it were for sc1 and wc3) will make you rage less and actually understand why blizz did this. But once being a total nerd I get it, it's hard to think outside your own comfort zone and when things dont make sense it's irritating.
And WHY does EVERY online service have to be a social utility? Maybe you should consider that a large majority of people play games to get away from real-life social interaction. Starcraft IS A GAME not a social platform. Either way, without ingame non-party chat, it'll never become that.
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Hey if there weren't so many other more serious problems to consider this feature would actually be... no wait it's still shit.
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I am making a new Team in sc2 you must have FACEBOOK!
Facebook Queens must be at least top 10 in your division to join ( don't worry play a few games and your top 10 ) Currently accepting top ten from bronze to DIAMOND!
edit: family members can join too so invite your moms
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i cant wait for the twitter implementation and webcam requirement to play the game.
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there's no way I'd ever add to facebook someone i don't know from real life. but hey, we've already got alternative spam mails, so i guess we'll have to make spam FB accounts with current worldwide facebook crazyness
by the way, I'm REALLY interested what's the deal between blizzard and facebook with all this..
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Little fat man who sold his soul, little fat man who sold his dreams...
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On May 23 2010 08:29 ondik wrote:
there's no way I'd ever add to facebook someone i don't know from real life. but hey, we've already got alternative spam mails, so i guess we'll have to make spam FB accounts with current worldwide facebook crazyness
by the way, I'm REALLY interested what's the deal between blizzard and facebook with all this..
Yea so I'm suppose to share pictures of my family and my daughter with people on bnet who I want to game with?
I guess facebook will suddenly have a surge in unactive accounts being made to play on bnet...
Edit: as I slowly take my foot out of my mouth... This thread is regarding Blizzards beta friends list situation statement.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126839
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Itll be great to see "Your friend such'n'such just made it into platinum division Barbie Cheesecake" on your facebook update wall.
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Wow just wow... I'm sad to say it but i think I'll just stick with SC1.
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It does seem that, ever since patch 13, and this facebook integration, players have lagged more and of course the game crashes, freezes..
I like the quote from the OP:
"Now I can add friends from FB to SC2, whom i've alrdy have added on SC2 anyway because if they're my friends on FB, and play SC2, chances are high that I wouldn't have waited for something like this integration to add my friends from FB".
I think its dumb.. especially now considering the problems with the patch or this integration..
We could have done w/o blizz.. jeez
<3 SC2 though.. just wish we'd get more time to play it before it goes down for a month, instead of getting silly patches that grants T all sorts of buffs and nerfs Protoss like whoa.
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Facebook is fail. Pretty much sums it all up.
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I can't think of any positives of having facebook friends being linked up to my battlenet account. If my friends play starcraft, I'll add them in game. Personally I like to seperate the realm of gaming with my REAL LIFE. Having my real life name being displayed, and my account login information is a serious issue and I hope this stuff doesn't go in live. As for facebook, I find it very annoying to always see the facebook advertisement on the bottom. It just doesn't seem right to me, this isn't what the community wants. How long before they start adding other corporate advertisements to B-net 2.0? At this point can seriously see myself logging into starcraft 2 one day and being greeted with Pepsi, Nike and Bank of America logos.
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being greeted with Pepsi, Nike and Bank of America logos.
that would be really good for the game to see have huge corporations outside of korea take an interest in sc2 actually.
lifestyle sponsors are foreshadowing of making competitive games huge
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That's true, but will facebook be working towards building up the competitive gaming scene? I can't really see how just having the current facebook integration helps foster a compeitive gaming scene, I dunno though, I could just be downright wrong or plain naive.
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This make no sense.. i hate facebook.
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So, with the extensions gone, I have to either hand out my e-mail via the in-game chat or get a facebook account? I don't have a facebook account and I certainly don't want to get one, but I'm not very fond of the idea of giving my "official" e-mail to semi-random people either. I guess I should have used a junk e-mail for my b.net account but then you lose out on alot of info (beta keys, password recovery) also. It's not like you can change it now anyway. Giving out my e-mail is a security risk, but connecting the account to facebook and giving access to the player's social network (?) is a terrible idea in terms of security.
Seriously; What was wrong with the BW/WC3 style battle.net? Was it really a problem with many people wanting to use the same nickname? Or that only 5 people could actually be top 5 in the ladder? To me, so far battle.net 2.0 has been more like battle.net 0.2. No chat channels; no /whisper, instead you have to add to friends list (???) which will now require giving up of personal provacy; Rediculous league/division system without purpose; And now the icing on the cake, facebook integration BLAHRG!
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fuck i hate facebook so much, why they mess now with sc !! fuckfuckfuck!!!
EMO SHIT!!
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I doubt this is a matter of a system within blizz saying "ok we have 24 hours to polish the game, should we make facebook integrated or improve lat?" You have to imagine the hundreds of hours and people working to make this game.
The facebook integration team is different than the networking and server management team. I don't consider either aspect of SC2 to be related to each other in terms of quality. Just that one is already done and the other needs alot more work.
This is more like waiting in a long line at a fast food restaurant and someone walking up to you and gives you a yo-yo.
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I have Facebook and I'm still not going to use this feature. I just wouldn't give my facebook password out to any app or program due to the possibly that they'll spam my feed with garbage.
Any most of my RL friends who play SC I know about anyway, I wouldn't give a shit if my cousin's mum has a battle.net account.
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