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nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
May 17 2010 12:47 GMT
#241
Gretorp how do you micro ghost marine with 1-2 marauders vs a 3 gate build, I EMP and focus zealots first like in the video, and they melt, but i usually lose too much during this period of time even though I am microing and the zeals hardly ever hit my rines before dying, the stalkers rip them apart so my army becomes so small and then his remaining stalker/sentry is enough to overpower me. Am I not microing right? Is my macro probably not perfect and therefore I have a smaller army? I did the BO you showed in the Ghost Marine video.
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Gamer0ne
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria51 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 14:15:11
May 17 2010 13:06 GMT
#242
How should I be scouting to see if he's gone for a quick colossi?Reapers?Scans?
Also,the new mike is pure awesome.
Also #2,you should start naming your builds!
GhOsT.osd
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden16 Posts
May 17 2010 13:45 GMT
#243
Thank you Gretorp <3 Im only in copper but i have been having problems with void rays. I saw this and tried it out, im still in copper mind you so it might not be super good execution though.
Replay below if anyone want to help me improve my game some more
Thanks alot again. Since this is my first post i might aswell introduce myself, my name is Henrik, im from sweden, english isent my first language as you might have figured out by now (with all the spelling errors) 28 years old :O and im a student, old one
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Arokh
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland23 Posts
May 17 2010 13:50 GMT
#244
...erm hi TL =)

So Gretorp, I've been using your build and your thoughts and pointers have overall been very helpful to may TvP playstyle. Thanks for the enlighting inputs. (I think he should have been in the HDH Invitational )

[Q] Anyway, I ran into a game-mechanic situation, which was kinda ...surprising: I saw an observer moving across my army and wanted to get rid of it. Normally I just scan but due to the lack of spare energy on my OC's, I used EMP since it reveals cloacked units... right? It didn't work. Either this is a bug (or intended) or my micro is just too clumsy to hit a moving observer with 2 EMP's. Anybody knows this for sure (happened on my last game last night and I can't test it right away)?
"If you only "think" this, then be quiet, because you don't know. Making up hypothetical situations is not acceptable, and is a leading cause of stupid in the world." -Manifesto7
fafalecureuil
Profile Joined January 2010
France69 Posts
May 17 2010 14:19 GMT
#245
You have to target below the observer.
In order to find the right position, select one of your flying units and observe the circle below it. It is the position of the unit and where you have to aim your emp.
Arokh
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland23 Posts
May 17 2010 14:26 GMT
#246
@fafalecureuil: yeah right... same thing with psi storm & fungal growth... thanks! I fergot that porbably because I couldn't select the obs and then raged when I wasted 2 EMP's...

I feel quite stupid now that you point out the facts that I already know...
"If you only "think" this, then be quiet, because you don't know. Making up hypothetical situations is not acceptable, and is a leading cause of stupid in the world." -Manifesto7
TheNikeYork
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States389 Posts
May 18 2010 00:02 GMT
#247
Ahh. Episode two was really great. I've had problems with TvT since I started playing. Just hate that MU so much. Hopefully this will help me some.
Everyone knows cucumbers have terrible souls
Teratos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States12 Posts
May 18 2010 07:44 GMT
#248
Wow, I watched your first two episodes, and they were pretty freaking awesome. I'm going to mass ghosts every TvP game now, lol. Good luck and I look forward to your future casts.
Zurope
Profile Joined May 2010
United States29 Posts
May 18 2010 13:43 GMT
#249
Good work as always, Gretorp.
You Gotta Make It Happen
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 18 2010 14:12 GMT
#250
Great episode. My only comment will be that in Episode 2, it seems like you recorded it in two takes. The first take about TvP and the second about TvT. Whatever you did with your mic in the TvP part was WAY better than the TvT part. However, both times, the mic was way better than Episode 1. Just letting you know how things sounded.

Otherwise very interesting. I would recommend you look at the D9D #118 for TLO's new build for TvZ. He claims that he has "no idea how he'd lose with it." He seems really confident about it. Definitely something for you to look into for Episode 3!
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Gretorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States586 Posts
May 18 2010 15:16 GMT
#251
are you sure you don't mean the mic is the other way around??? I hear it and the first mic sounds horridddd. btw it took me like 100 takes to do this episode :O!

I'm only doing my style of play and backing all my style up with theory. I have my own builds for every MU, and I have been doing these for a while now.
I am Unheard Change
Gamer0ne
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria51 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-18 15:19:37
May 18 2010 15:19 GMT
#252
1st part mic quality: 7.5
2nd part: 9.5
This is all in ep2
TheNikeYork
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States389 Posts
May 18 2010 15:26 GMT
#253
On May 19 2010 00:16 Gretorp wrote:
are you sure you don't mean the mic is the other way around??? I hear it and the first mic sounds horridddd. btw it took me like 100 takes to do this episode :O!

I'm only doing my style of play and backing all my style up with theory. I have my own builds for every MU, and I have been doing these for a while now.


Neither one sounds bad, to me. It was a bit odd on the second part, though. Wasn't expecting such a big change. Sounded really different from the first.
Everyone knows cucumbers have terrible souls
Gretorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States586 Posts
May 18 2010 16:55 GMT
#254
the first mic was a cheap one that came in a set. THe second one i ordered for 230$ online :-P I would hope the 2nd part was better!
I am Unheard Change
TheNikeYork
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States389 Posts
May 18 2010 16:58 GMT
#255
Didn't really pay attention to the quality of your voice, sorry. Haha. Was more worried about catching all the insight into terran play, lol.
Everyone knows cucumbers have terrible souls
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 18 2010 17:04 GMT
#256
On May 19 2010 00:16 Gretorp wrote:
are you sure you don't mean the mic is the other way around??? I hear it and the first mic sounds horridddd. btw it took me like 100 takes to do this episode :O!

I'm only doing my style of play and backing all my style up with theory. I have my own builds for every MU, and I have been doing these for a while now.


Ok, I went back and listened more closely to it. You can clearly tell the second mic is better. The sound quality is worlds better. I guess what I meant is that the second mic made you sound much different than I thought after listening to your stream and to the EU vs Asia cast. I think it's just cause the second section is a little softer, and once I turn the volume up much higher in part 2 I hear things more clearly. And now that you explain the difference in the mics, I can hear the difference. Sorry about a false alarm.

Also, the comment about TLO's game wasn't meant to be a suggestion for you to cover it during your episodes. I very much enjoy seeing your unique approach to creating builds for MUs, but I just suggested it as a resource for you to view and enjoy in case there were any interesting folds that might synthesize well into your current builds.

Hope it helps, thanks for the stream and the vids. A lot to chew on!
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
BigOleDonkey
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-18 21:41:13
May 18 2010 21:40 GMT
#257
Gretorp how do you handle people who do very aggressive early marauder openings? People that send their first few marauders over and continue streaming them towards your base? With only 1 barracks I feel like it's difficult to keep a big enough marine count and they eventually get to 5-8 marauders or so and then either kill me or do a LOT of damage. A hellion or tank popping out doesn't help versus this type of play, and it shows up way before the banshee is anywhere close to being done.

Also, a second opening I'm having issues with is when they go aggressive bio (often marauder, but not always marauder sometimes it's a mix of marines and marauders), with a couple tanks and a fast viking, with the intent to camp out just outside your natural so that their tanks can hit your CC? I have a lot of trouble with this as well since the banshee can't get anything done with the viking sitting there, leaving me with a weaker ground force and a CC I can't expand with. I find it difficult to scout this before it happens.

In any case, I loved the episode and thought it was very informative, keep up the good work.
netisopl
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada10 Posts
May 19 2010 03:27 GMT
#258
I just would like to put this out there that watching your stream and episodes have made me a 256.666% better terran. I admire how you try to get away with the least amount of effort in trying to counter something. I'm finally able to beat my friend who is a gold rank player consistently.

Keep the good work up!
Doormat
Profile Joined May 2010
United States12 Posts
May 20 2010 06:30 GMT
#259
Hey Gretorp,

Thank you so much for the information. You must be a fairly avid chess player with all your terminology.

In the TvT matchup, I got pushed on with marines + a tank right around the time my banshee hit the field. How do I fend this off? By that time I generally only have a few marines and with siege mode he can destroy me.

I'd love to hear your take on TvZ. I've seen you play it on your stream and you tend to reaper harass as an opening. Any thoughts on the TLO opening? I feel like it gives you the same options as TvT (one of each building to counter based on your scouting).

Thanks again for all you do.
Cynthedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States34 Posts
May 20 2010 08:14 GMT
#260
i cannot watch episode 2! its cut off on that 4shared site. can you upload to megaupload please? =)
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