EPTSo, how do you do it?
How do you position your hand on the keyboard?
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Chaoz
United States507 Posts
So, how do you do it? | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
my pinky is for shift and control and A then I use ring and middle and pointer to hit hotkeys then middle and pointer for shortcuts depending on location. | ||
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mavz
United States36 Posts
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Chaoz
United States507 Posts
On May 04 2010 14:58 mavz wrote: i use my pinky for shift and ctrl with middle/ring/index hovering around 1-3 or wasd (damn fps). idk how you use your ring finger for ctrl/shift it feels really awkward to me o.O Mistyped. I meant pinky. | ||
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jtype
England2167 Posts
Later in the game, though, my hand tends to hover more over the hotkeys and I use all my fingers for a better level of control. | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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denzelz
United States604 Posts
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Chaoz
United States507 Posts
On May 04 2010 15:13 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: DAy[9]'s mechanics podcast has an entire section about how to position you keyboard hand and mouse hand. I think you're doin it right, but it's basically whatever you feel the most comfortable with, and I don't think it is as important in SC2, since all the key are in the same general area of the keyboard, but it's still importan so check out the cast. Do you have a link? I can't find it. | ||
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jtype
England2167 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89581 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99950 | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
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DaggerRage
United States30 Posts
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Knap4life
Slovenia333 Posts
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Twilexia
United States62 Posts
I'm wondering though, it seems like a lot of the pros use the arrow keys, which are waaay on the other side of the keyboard for me. I don't really use them much, but is it generally considered skillful to use those keys as well (when navigating?) | ||
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EatCrow
Estonia333 Posts
thumb - c for chrono, z for zealots; b,v for building ring, middle, index - numbers and most of hotkeys | ||
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jtype
England2167 Posts
On May 04 2010 15:55 Twilexia wrote: it seems like a lot of the pros use the arrow keys, I don't think it's common practice for any high-level players to use the arrow keys at all. | ||
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roark
United States187 Posts
On May 04 2010 15:55 Twilexia wrote: I keep my fingers on the normal keys (asdf). I'll use the pinky for CTRL and the other 3 fingers for the numbers. I'm wondering though, it seems like a lot of the pros use the arrow keys, which are waaay on the other side of the keyboard for me. I don't really use them much, but is it generally considered skillful to use those keys as well (when navigating?) I have seen a few videos of live tourneys in Korea where they do infact use the arrow keys. They use their left hand. I think it is so they don't have to look at the mini map, and more importantly to keep the mouse centered. If you boost the arrow key movement speed to 100% it only takes a few taps to get around. I dunno, I don't use it though. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11586 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/5626/keyboard37vk.png) | ||
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
can't shrug off 10 years of CS for SC. | ||
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pRo9aMeR
595 Posts
On May 04 2010 16:23 CaucasianAsian wrote: Holy crap....that is the exact position that my hand is in. I was reading the thread and put my left hand on the keyboard, then I saw your pic and looked down at my hand and it was identical.^^ I also pivot my hand at my wrist and can reach every key i need, as far as I can remember... Now thinking about it, my hand does pivot, but it's not quite resting on the desk the whole time. I do lift up my wrist throughout the game to allow myself freer movement. | ||
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InfernoX
Sweden55 Posts
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Shrine
Australia107 Posts
On May 04 2010 15:42 DaggerRage wrote: Pinky rests on shift, index through ring finger rest on Q,W,E and my thumb on space. Gives a nice range of motion. Same, FPS and WoW habits. | ||
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lifecanwait
96 Posts
On May 04 2010 16:23 CaucasianAsian wrote: Funny thread here  , but position on keyboard is imho quite important cause it affects playstyle a lot. Same position here as you (pinky on SHIFT). But when you're switching your pinky finger to CTRL, it's kinda weird to reach the numbspots (1-3), with whatever finger you're using for that purpose. Look at your pinky finger, it's kinda long (samewith me, big hands + long fingers :D), so you have to bent it if you want to reach the numbspots with the other fingers. The problem: CTRL is even below SHIFT, so you have to bent the pinky even more (again to reach the numbspots with the other fingers). That's uncomfortable, at least for me and there is danger to glide away (in upper keyboard direction) with ur pinky if it's bent too much. That's why I use the thumb of my left hand for both, SHIFT and CTRL (and ALT) + numbspots. What do you think about that? Have to mention my ring finger is smaller than middle finger, so that might also be the reason for not reaching numbspot 1 with it, while being on CTRL with the pinky. | ||
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Craz
United States69 Posts
Once you go wasd it's hard to go back. Especially if you are still actively playing fps games. | ||
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MinoMino
Norway1103 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
there is a reason most people use this to write stuff. | ||
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jtgizmo
Congo161 Posts
On May 04 2010 15:13 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: DAy[9]'s mechanics podcast has an entire section about how to position you keyboard hand and mouse hand. I think you're doin it right, but it's basically whatever you feel the most comfortable with, and I don't think it is as important in SC2, since all the key are in the same general area of the keyboard, but it's still importan so check out the cast. can u link it please? | ||
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Kantutan
Canada1319 Posts
On May 04 2010 20:21 LaNague wrote: asdf, thumb on space. there is a reason most people use this to write stuff. Agreed. Lets you reach everything comfortably and more importantly, easily get your hand back in position due to that epic protrusion on the F key | ||
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mynameisbean
Australia82 Posts
nuff sed. | ||
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ManiacTheZealot
United States490 Posts
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m0rra
Estonia29 Posts
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Blacklizard
United States1194 Posts
People with good extension (fingers bend "backwards/opposite of making a fist" and wrist bends up easier)can probably keep their pinky on the left shift/control and be comfortable though. People who are extremely flexible in all areas can do whatever they want! Brand new players might consider using the alternative key mappings Blizzard put in. That keeps everything on the left side. Personally having specials and worker options at the bottom (z, x, etc.), gateway and warpgate being the same key in this config (Blizzard fix this OK!), and years of playing otherwise has kept me from switching though. | ||
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NIJ
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RonNation
United States385 Posts
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TwilightStar
United States649 Posts
When I play FPS: I use "WADF" (F for crouch, V for walk) (ring finger does W and S, you can't go backwards while going forwards, right? ^^) | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
 , can barely assign the 7th tt | ||
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OneWhoIsMany
Canada292 Posts
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Chuiu
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EZjijy
United States1039 Posts
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
On May 05 2010 07:53 OneWhoIsMany wrote: I am missing two fingers from each hand - born that way. I use my palm to hit the control button/space bar and do everything else with what you could call my pinky. Shift keys I have to hit the button with my thumb and do a stretch to hit the number keys. Funny enough I type faster then most people (80+ wpm), even with only two fingers on the keyboard with both hands. Holy crap O_O. If this is a serious post you have mad respect from me man. | ||
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
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link0
United States1071 Posts
In that order. CS and Modern Warefare 2 ftw. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
Index and middle finger for most things. Ring finger sometimes for queens/scouting drone/overlords. Easy for me to swap from hatch on 5 (middle finger) to 4 (ring finger). Used to 1a2a3a4a solely with my index finger. Now 1 (middle) a (index) works when I haven't made extra control groups to flank. | ||
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Bob300
United States505 Posts
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onmach
United States1241 Posts
I shift my hand to the left and use pinky on shift when I'm in combat though. I also have inject remapped to o, so that I macro my queens to be 0, then ring finger on 0, pinky hits o, index hits backspace, mouse is centered on screen then I click hatchery, then quickly pinky o to reselect queens, index backspace to switch bases again. This setup hurts a little in the early game but it pays itself off in the late game. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On May 05 2010 07:59 Chuiu wrote: I've never understood how people can do the pinky on control thing, that is just so awkward and hard to position for my hands. The middle part of my palm below the pinky is what rests on and presses the control key for me and my pinky is able to get the shift key. Probably has something to do with the shape of your hand and your keyboard. I tried resting my hand on control as you said, and not only is it awkward to press control that way on my laptop, but it also forces three of my other fingers all the way up beyond the F keys to my volume control. Not good for me at all. | ||
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Zhou
United States832 Posts
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petzergling
538 Posts
On May 05 2010 07:59 Chuiu wrote: I've never understood how people can do the pinky on control thing, that is just so awkward and hard to position for my hands. The middle part of my palm below the pinky is what rests on and presses the control key for me and my pinky is able to get the shift key. +1 | ||
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skipgamer
Australia701 Posts
for everything else I use my other 3 fingers moving over the keyboard as required. I've got pretty massive hands though so I can reach ctrl+8 (pinky and index finger) as my limit. I lose 9 and 0 sure but I can live with that. | ||
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ktffang
United States120 Posts
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Krissam
Denmark189 Posts
![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/140087/Pictures/keyboard.jpg) This is pretty much my standard position. | ||
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iNz
Sweden119 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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xMoko
Mexico46 Posts
On May 04 2010 15:58 jtype wrote: I don't think it's common practice for any high-level players to use the arrow keys at all. Boxer using key arrows sometimes: | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
++1 i just cant position my pinky on ctrl i also use 1-4 for buildings and 5-7 for units, 5a6a7a ftw | ||
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Roniii
United States289 Posts
On May 05 2010 07:59 Chuiu wrote: I've never understood how people can do the pinky on control thing, that is just so awkward and hard to position for my hands. The middle part of my palm below the pinky is what rests on and presses the control key for me and my pinky is able to get the shift key. same, this is how i roll | ||
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Lemure
189 Posts
Same here and I'm used to having my index finger resting on the F key. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i39.tinypic.com/2s6sz29.jpg) | ||
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metasonic
United States115 Posts
On May 06 2010 02:39 xMoko wrote: Boxer using key arrows sometimes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p08QFrGa8Jo I suppose this makes sense, if he wants to move the screen without moving his mouse to the edge so he can continue to micro in the center. | ||
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jtgizmo
Congo161 Posts
On May 04 2010 15:40 jtype wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89581 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99950 erm thats for SC BW - is there one addressing SC2??? | ||
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intergalactic
Canada428 Posts
Pinky on CTRL/Shift, ring on A, middle on W, index on D. That's my natural hand position, so I always have to slightly move my hand to reach 1-9. Although, I got used to let my thumb on B/V instead of space, so that's a step ahead. | ||
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Krissam
Denmark189 Posts
On May 06 2010 05:20 metasonic wrote: I suppose this makes sense, if he wants to move the screen without moving his mouse to the edge so he can continue to micro in the center. To be honest, I still think the drag scroll in sc2 makes more sense, takes like ½ a sec to move the screen and gives you perfect control | ||
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Holden Caulfield
102 Posts
The difference is that people seem to be attacking the keyboard with the hand-arm in a straight position, while I hold my arm in a 45° position, almost from the side. | ||
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Gareth
United States39 Posts
On May 05 2010 07:53 OneWhoIsMany wrote: I am missing two fingers from each hand - born that way. I use my palm to hit the control button/space bar and do everything else with what you could call my pinky. Shift keys I have to hit the button with my thumb and do a stretch to hit the number keys. Funny enough I type faster then most people (80+ wpm), even with only two fingers on the keyboard with both hands. Really? id say pics4proof but that might be a bit inappropriate...and weird. | ||
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FaTLiP
United States57 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On May 04 2010 16:23 CaucasianAsian wrote: totally diff from me i have my hand pointing in to the center of the keyboard instead of away and i lay my fingers much lower at sd and v ![[image loading]](http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9830/picture15cs.jpg) | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
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ZergTurd
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
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Christmastaflex
United States35 Posts
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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NotGood-
United States134 Posts
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
Earlygame protoss I hang out over by 0, 9 and P though. | ||
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