EPTOh Micro, Where Art Thou? - Page 76
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Hoywolf
United States4 Posts
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Kallor
United Kingdom1 Post
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nurle
Norway308 Posts
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Fodie
United States13 Posts
Thank you oh so very much for the read. It has changed my sc2 gameplay and will hopefully change the Game as a whole to bring back the moving shot. I know at least I will be bitching on the beta forum about it. Amazing article. Front page worthy. | ||
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3772
Czech Republic434 Posts
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peffi
Germany44 Posts
Nice Video of StarCraft history you should really check this out. it filled me with confidence, that starcraft 2 will be as cool as the first part. | ||
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Scruff
Singapore509 Posts
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Plissken_2097
Spain628 Posts
On June 30 2010 02:59 peffi wrote: i know you put really much effort in it. and maybe i am the one and only to say this. but i hate it, when people dont respect the work of others. maybe starcraft 2 has a lack of balance and maybe it will never reach the same status as the first game. but starcraft BW didnt just become to the game it is today after a few hours. blizzard patches their games through all the time. of cource they are minor patches at the end. but those small things are important to make the game as we know it today. Nice Video of StarCraft history you should really check this out. it filled me with confidence, that starcraft 2 will be as cool as the first part. Sc2 has not such a solid ground to evolve as BW had it. That kind of argument it's irrelevant. Btw, couldn't agree more on that part now. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2010 02:59 LaLush wrote: It disgusts me that every time I see someone on these forums bash down on a flaw in the game, all he’s ever met with is the same generic response: “Yes but Starcraft II is a different game, ’other’ types of micro/whatever might show up in the future as it develops and evolves”. Who knows, those arguments might hold true, although I personally doubt they will. We’re entirely missing the point arguing in such a way though. Why in the first place should we be accepting that Starcraft II is regressing in to a more primitive form than its predecessor? Isn’t this, after all, the sequel, as opposed to the prequel? How does Dustin Browder explain the fact that air units in SC2, the sequel, suddenly regressed and lost their ability to maneuver while firing? Is there perhaps a disturbance in the Khala? Start demanding more out of Blizzard! I implore you all not to settle for less than you deserve. Let’s at least demand that Blizzard put the micro back in a game that was already robbed of its macro! | ||
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peffi
Germany44 Posts
but its not like blizzard or particular dustin browder said: yeah we hate all our community and we just watch out for the money. we want to make starcraft 2 a facebook-platform only for people on same continent with a flashgame called starcraft 2 without any micro/macro/tactics or toughts in it. sorry but this kind of thinking is also irrelevant. starcraft 2 is an independent game and just watch how it evolved only in the first beta-month. remember one-base-roach or imba voidrays, big thors? only with the help of the community blizz could change those lacks of balance. | ||
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
SC2 is better thought out, with the knowledge gained from SC1 and the flaws inherent in it, and already from playing the beta is a much better and more dimensional game. This is my opinion, don't try to argue me out of it. | ||
vileChAnCe
Canada525 Posts
On June 30 2010 02:59 peffi wrote: i know you put really much effort in it. and maybe i am the one and only to say this. but i hate it, when people dont respect the work of others. maybe starcraft 2 has a lack of balance and maybe it will never reach the same status as the first game. but starcraft BW didnt just become to the game it is today after a few hours. blizzard patches their games through all the time. of cource they are minor patches at the end. but those small things are important to make the game as we know it today. Nice Video of StarCraft history you should really check this out. it filled me with confidence, that starcraft 2 will be as cool as the first part. I'm not entirely sure if you read the entire article but it doesn't have anything to do with balance, the entire argument he brings up is a mechanic in the starcraft engine called move shot. I guarantee you Blizzard has working versions of SC2 with the moving shot, it's just an entirely different game with it implemented. Your changing the variables of every unit in the game that blows YEARS of balancing out of the water, because of the changes in the gaming market that is simply impossible to backtrack, 12 years ago when you made fuck all for a video game anyways it wasn't a big deal. Now... you can't push it back to implement that. You can burn Browder at the stake but at the end of the day were all to blame for the way the industry changed, you can't expect Blizzard to understand what made SC what it is when they created this engine and started balancing. | ||
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oxxo
988 Posts
Most people that say otherwise just can't get move on and will never be satisfied with anything but a 1 for 1 copy of SC1... which is SC1. | ||
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Endorsed
Netherlands1221 Posts
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pzea469
United States1520 Posts
On June 30 2010 04:57 Endorsed wrote: WHY DO WE CRY? We have a freakin editor where we can change everything we want. If Blizzard messes up in the end. We can edit it? Can't we? We would make a hardcore gamemode. Aren't we already able to edit in Moving shot? the problem with this is that it would split the community and thats not a good thing. It would be difficult to hold big tournaments for both SC2 versions. Theres a thread where this guy changed the units in SC2 and made them way better, however i doubt blizzard is going to make these changes, but who knows, it could happen. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=125146 | ||
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anarkin
Hungary16 Posts
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Raptormosses
United States15 Posts
sc2=/=scbw there are new mechanics and just because the old ones dont work doesnt mean we wont find some new ones. Look at progamers play this game they rarely ever lose to bad BOs. They lose most often to positioning and micro. | ||
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mass_
36 Posts
On June 30 2010 05:20 anarkin wrote: This article is just makes no sense. period true all I see is whine whine whine whine qq qq qq qq whine more comparing 2 different games is nonsense. User was warned for this post | ||
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KnowMe
Germany228 Posts
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AntiHack
Switzerland553 Posts
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gdroxor
United States639 Posts
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