If it were cheaper like 25, had a good range, and didn't work on massive, that would be cool. You could snipe sentries or fleeing units that way by pulling them back. Snatching massive units would look terrible.

G-Dy

Germany91 Posts

April 19 2010 20:42 GMT

#23

What about this idea:

There's an upgrade which allows Infestors attacking while burrowed. The attack does linear splash damage to all ground units, friendly and hostile, in its path. As an animation you could have tentacles come out of the ground and spear the units on the ground?

FabledIntegral

United States9232 Posts

April 19 2010 20:42 GMT

#24

Honestly it actually doesn't sound very useful to me, why would this be more useful than NP? It sounds like you still have to use a tenticle to grab the opponent, but instead of changing it to your side, it just moves it away..?

Funchucks

Canada2113 Posts

April 19 2010 20:44 GMT

#25

What if you make it so you can tentacle grab a ghost, and then wrap her up in a coccoon that keeps tentacle grabbing her over and over until she likes it, and then she takes over the zerg?

ondik

Czech Republic2908 Posts

April 19 2010 20:44 GMT

#26

lol I read this as "Testicle grab".. ouch...

imperator-xy

Germany1377 Posts

April 19 2010 20:46 GMT

#27

On April 20 2010 05:44 Funchucks wrote:
What if you make it so you can tentacle grab a ghost, and then wrap her up in a coccoon that keeps tentacle grabbing her over and over until she likes it, and then she takes over the zerg?

hm i think ive seen that before

oh

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

April 19 2010 20:49 GMT

#28

On April 20 2010 05:40 Kralic wrote:
I don't want a death knight unit in this game.

lol true that

we all know how much trouble blizzard has balancing classes that have death grip...

Haemonculus

United States6980 Posts

April 19 2010 20:55 GMT

#29

Would probably have to only work on light units. I can't see a siege tank or an immortal getting pulled around by a little tentacle.

Yeran

Germany23 Posts

April 19 2010 21:11 GMT

#30

I bet this one could drag a tank without that much trouble at all. Infestors are totally outclassed in that regard.

s.a.y

Croatia3840 Posts

April 19 2010 21:13 GMT

#31

On April 20 2010 05:31 Seacow wrote:
..... "Tentacle Grab"... - -;

Neat idea though, would make for some pretty hilarious moments I think.

hentai came to my mind first.

FarbrorAbavna

Sweden4856 Posts

April 19 2010 21:19 GMT

#32

As it is right now, from what I've seen on streams, the infestor just lacks micro from players. You often see them, the times when you do, running straight for the front and doing....nothing and getting killed immediately. Clearly an issue with micro and one ctrl-group syndrome

I think it's in the same spot the phoenix is where players simply don't try it out enough to actually get some sense of when and where it is of use.

Not all spells have to be used equally and neural parasite certainly is a strong ability but it's use is limited by range and the infestors low hp(relatively). If I'm not mistaken it was in the Team EG vs TeamLiquid where a zerg player completely stopped a thor drop by using NP on the thors as they were busy destroying things in the base and shut it down by first shoting down the medivacs then having zerg units attack the thors while they were under control.

Otherwise I think there is some merrit to this tentacle spell but replacing the NP ability I don't think that is the answer. Cudos on a well thought out(unlike some garabage that still is posted in this forum) post and an ability that truly is interesting.

jaybrundage

United States3921 Posts

April 19 2010 21:28 GMT

#33

I think its an interesting idea. But it does not seem nearly as good as neural parasite. I mean if you grab something with neural parasite you could potentially bring it closer to you and kill it. (If you fear your infester getting sniped) Also it would not me a good counter to FF because zerg army is so big that it would not be worth it. And no ones uses ultras any ways for the most part. I think nueral parasite justs needs to be unnerfed and or figured out better. also if the unit can still attack it could just kill the infestor. Good idea it may need some work tho.

imperator-xy

Germany1377 Posts

April 19 2010 21:32 GMT

#34

i think neural parasite is a good spell. it has so much potential, but as infestors have so little hp and range its very hard to use.
every late game army will have units with enough range to kill those infestors immediately although they stand behind the roaches and hydras, so your only able to use fungal growth.

i would buff neural parasite's range or make them use their spells if they are burrowed

Tone_

United Kingdom554 Posts

April 19 2010 21:36 GMT

#35

On April 20 2010 05:40 Kralic wrote:
I don't want a death knight unit in this game.

Yeah.

brotosterone

United States260 Posts

April 19 2010 21:41 GMT

#36

Kinda like pudge.

Would be interesting. Grabbing thors/ultralisks/collossi one at a time would be nice.

KermitTheFro

United States25 Posts

April 19 2010 21:46 GMT

#37

9 is a lot of range....you're talking about being able to shift-cast and pull a whole fleet of medivacs right over your hydras?

TerranUp16

United States88 Posts

April 19 2010 21:54 GMT

#38

So... you're stealing the Lictor Alpha's Flesh Hooks ability from Dawn of War 2 and slapping it into StarCraft 2 on a Zerg unit to reaffirm the extreme similarities between Tyranids and Zerg and that Tyranids came first? lolxD

SichuanPanda

Canada1542 Posts

April 19 2010 21:57 GMT

#39

I like that you are trying to think of different options to Parasite, but I really think that Parasite is overall a more powerful ability and perhaps it could use another slight re-tool, but overall it does have its uses at the moment. One of the things people forget is to use Burrow on your Infestors. Keep them burrowed at the start of the battle and only pop them out if you have to retreat, or when you need to use them. Another thing I see a lot of people do is charge to the front with their Infestors making it obvious they intend to Parasite, and I simply FF them down.

You have to be sneaky with them, I've had competent Zergs use Infestors to great effect with all of their abilities in action, not just one.

Overall I think it is simply a mix of A. people not being aware of the options an Infestor gives them, and B. the control with which Infestors are deployed more so than the ability in question. However, perhaps this is simply because I'm an experience RTS player. Perhaps it is not as evident to more casual players? I'm not sure at any rate I think if another change comes to NP it will be another re-tool (not as drastic as before), a complete replace would not happen.

I'd also like to point out that I actually think the grappling tentacle is an interesting idea, and would be really cool to see in a custom game. While it definitely would have uses in a regular SC game, I like the idea of Zerg being the only race with an MC a little too much to completely do away with NP.

zomgzergrush

United States923 Posts

April 19 2010 21:58 GMT

#40

It should be able to kill colossii in one hit by toppling them over.

EDIT: the joke's been made already but I'll repost anyway.

Here's some concept art for your new ability:
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