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On April 12 2010 12:05 zkev wrote:
In case people have forgotten, "GG" is an abbreviation for "Good Game". If it wasn't a "Good Game", then you have every right not say it before bailing on a game you're about to lose. This not-saying-gg-at-the-end-of-a-game-is-BM is pure bullshit.
Are you one of those guys who won't say "good morning" when it's cloudy, and explains this to everyone who says "good morning" to him?
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This happens alot. Ive talked to my friend about it and we've concluded that these players are clearly trainning for blizzcon.
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On April 12 2010 12:11 Funchucks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2010 12:05 zkev wrote:
In case people have forgotten, "GG" is an abbreviation for "Good Game". If it wasn't a "Good Game", then you have every right not say it before bailing on a game you're about to lose. This not-saying-gg-at-the-end-of-a-game-is-BM is pure bullshit. Are you one of those guys who won't say "good morning" when it's cloudy, and explains this to everyone who says "good morning" to him?
Would you consider me to have very bad manners if I said "hey what's up" as a greeting instead of "good morning"? In fact, I don't say "good morning" when it's cloudy, but I also don't explain to people why I don't say it. And so far nobody has criticized my etiquette because I refuse to say "good morning" when I just walked into work completely soaked or with 2 inches of snow on top of my head.
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I think we can all agree it's bad etiquette to say GG then try and still win the game or drag it out like a @$%&bend.
Just play on, practice macro/expoing+multitasking or whatever you feel you struggle with. A good opportunity to practice your weak points.
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haven't had any bad experiences here, and so far there's been one or two people who's preemptively said 'gg'... I just don't stop playing until it's f10eq time
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On April 12 2010 06:25 QuothTheRaven wrote:
Saying GG and continuing to play is *extremely* bad mannered. I don't think I've ever seen someone do it, but I'm in upper-platinum where the players generally prefer to just leave and start a new game.
It's OK in general, I think, to say GG and chat with your opponent for a little while about the game and strategies etc., assuming you stop all unit production / attacks / attempts to win the game. I'm fine with this, though I usually make sure I'm inside his base killing him while we're chatting (and then just leave an extractor alive or something if I have more to say).
Anyone that either says gg and continues playing or doesn't say gg is a f*g. It's probably just in Americuh though cause all Americans are BM.
Just keep on macroing and kill them off even if they want to chat.
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I wont bother getting into the etiquette of gg or not gg'ing since in the end it's all personal preference unless a league makes it mandatory (a la Korea).
I've encountered the people who do GG and don't leave a lot. I think a lot of beta players whose only background is primarily WoW don't really think about leaving. I think they know it's over and aren't trying to be dicks, but they just don't think that leaving saves themselves some time in the long run.
Obviously there are some asshats who do it to grief, but I doubt all of them are given the frequency at which it occurs.
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GG, to me, means that you concede graciously and that the match is done. I see very few, if any, players following this standard though. It's more of an automatic response from some people now instead of a concession. They acknowledge that the game is over, but they don't leave -- it has nothing to do with the game being good, but potentially being over. I get a lot of "gg" "your race is imbalanced, that why i lost" as they keep fighting and prolonging the game as long as they can. Whatever. Like everyone else is saying, don't stop your macro, keep playing as if the game is still live.
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lol I never knew how sensitive SC players were until I read this thread. Seriously people if someone doesn't say "gg" who cares? Also if you lose to someone cause he said "gg" and you stopped playing that is your fault and yours alone. Just laugh it off and play your next match. I mean, its Beta.
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In SC2 when you play against the computer, the computer will 'GG' once it's about to lose, but it will force you to kill off all it's buildings before you actually win. I wonder if that is setting a bad example to new players about the use of GG, if GG without leaving is as common as it sounds.
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The general RTS community is really sensitive about manners... I would love to know why. I mean compare that to the Counter-Strike community it's so different, trash talk and bad mouthing other players is generally accepted and not frowned upon.
It's possible that sometimes you dont "gg" at the end of a game because you're frustrated, annoyed, busy with something else, distracted or just forgot.
I personally think people should stop saying "manners" it's really a childish mentally that should stop.
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Is it ok to say "FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-" and then immediately leave? If I was on the receiving end I would find it funny
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On April 12 2010 14:09 Martinni wrote:
The general RTS community is really sensitive about manners... I would love to know why. I mean compare that to the Counter-Strike community it's so different, trash talk and bad mouthing other players is generally accepted and not frowned upon.
It's possible that sometimes you dont "gg" at the end of a game because you're frustrated, annoyed, busy with something else, distracted or just forgot.
I personally think people should stop saying "manners" it's really a childish mentally that should stop.
The bulk of the current SC community spends a lot of its time watching Koreans. The Koreans have the extremely strict rules and required gg's, no talking in games, etc... It'll be interesting after SC2 goes live to see how the community changes from the influx of people who don't give 2 shits about Korean SC BW.
It's rubbed off on the people who watched to learn and whatnot. That, and crappy k-pop.
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On April 12 2010 12:20 zkev wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2010 12:11 Funchucks wrote:On April 12 2010 12:05 zkev wrote:
In case people have forgotten, "GG" is an abbreviation for "Good Game". If it wasn't a "Good Game", then you have every right not say it before bailing on a game you're about to lose. This not-saying-gg-at-the-end-of-a-game-is-BM is pure bullshit. Are you one of those guys who won't say "good morning" when it's cloudy, and explains this to everyone who says "good morning" to him? Would you consider me to have very bad manners if I said "hey what's up" as a greeting instead of "good morning"? In fact, I don't say "good morning" when it's cloudy, but I also don't explain to people why I don't say it. And so far nobody has criticized my etiquette because I refuse to say "good morning" when I just walked into work completely soaked or with 2 inches of snow on top of my head.
It does show a lack of social aptitude. Good morning as it is usually used does not literally mean 'it is a good morning.'
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On April 12 2010 14:13 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2010 14:09 Martinni wrote:
The general RTS community is really sensitive about manners... I would love to know why. I mean compare that to the Counter-Strike community it's so different, trash talk and bad mouthing other players is generally accepted and not frowned upon.
It's possible that sometimes you dont "gg" at the end of a game because you're frustrated, annoyed, busy with something else, distracted or just forgot.
I personally think people should stop saying "manners" it's really a childish mentally that should stop. The bulk of the current SC community spends a lot of its time watching Koreans. The Koreans have the extremely strict rules and required gg's, no talking in games, etc... It'll be interesting after SC2 goes live to see how the community changes from the influx of people who don't give 2 shits about Korean SC BW. It's rubbed off on the people who watched to learn and whatnot. That, and crappy k-pop.
I hope the sc2 community adopt a friendlier general etiquette... I mean don't try to emulate the progamers chances no one here is gonna make a buck out of this game. I don't know why I just have this pictures of a teenagers with bright red dragon t-shirt reading manga in a my head. Kinda sad actually lol.
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Sounds like 2v2v2v2 BGH, you have one scv? dont worry man youve got this
edit: talking about the guy that mass marined the op and lost 
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On April 12 2010 12:49 Mente wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2010 06:25 QuothTheRaven wrote:
Saying GG and continuing to play is *extremely* bad mannered. I don't think I've ever seen someone do it, but I'm in upper-platinum where the players generally prefer to just leave and start a new game.
It's OK in general, I think, to say GG and chat with your opponent for a little while about the game and strategies etc., assuming you stop all unit production / attacks / attempts to win the game. I'm fine with this, though I usually make sure I'm inside his base killing him while we're chatting (and then just leave an extractor alive or something if I have more to say). Anyone that either says gg and continues playing or doesn't say gg is a f*g. It's probably just in Americuh though cause all Americans are BM. Just keep on macroing and kill them off even if they want to chat.
I'm laughing at how not saying gg means you're a f*g. What exactly does calling someone a f*g make you? It's two bloody letters. It's not that big of a deal. Someone compared RTS players to nuns and I really think this metaphor is true. Everything that isn't super respectful is bad mannered and rude. Go play a game with a stranger on Bad Company 2, THATS bad manners. Not saying gg is just nothing in comparison to what goes on in other games genres.
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On April 12 2010 14:28 Alou wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2010 12:49 Mente wrote:On April 12 2010 06:25 QuothTheRaven wrote:
Saying GG and continuing to play is *extremely* bad mannered. I don't think I've ever seen someone do it, but I'm in upper-platinum where the players generally prefer to just leave and start a new game.
It's OK in general, I think, to say GG and chat with your opponent for a little while about the game and strategies etc., assuming you stop all unit production / attacks / attempts to win the game. I'm fine with this, though I usually make sure I'm inside his base killing him while we're chatting (and then just leave an extractor alive or something if I have more to say). Anyone that either says gg and continues playing or doesn't say gg is a f*g. It's probably just in Americuh though cause all Americans are BM. Just keep on macroing and kill them off even if they want to chat. I'm laughing at how not saying gg means you're a f*g. What exactly does calling someone a f*g make you? It's two bloody letters. It's not that big of a deal. Someone compared RTS players to nuns and I really think this metaphor is true. Everything that isn't super respectful is bad mannered and rude. Go play a game with a stranger on Bad Company 2, THATS bad manners. Not saying gg is just nothing in comparison to what goes on in other games genres.
But the reason starcraft players say gg compared to others is the fact that there is an established league and proscene where a gg is required. The scene has an example to follow on what to do when a game ends. You don't have any of that for other games.
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Yeah that has happened a few times to me also, quite annoying.
I must admit that I am one of those terrans that will float their buildings up and force you to tech to air to eliminate me. But ONLY if you tick me off! I've only done it once or twice when those damn protoss proxy gate or proxy cannon me... just so infuriating that they dont have to work for their win, so I make them work while I grab some food.
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