• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:45
CEST 02:45
KST 09:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202542Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced58
StarCraft 2
General
Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" Serral wins EWC 2025 TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Bitcoin discussion thread 9/11 Anniversary
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 633 users

30 Thors vs 90 Mutas as of Patch 7 - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 31 2010 00:06 GMT
#21
that's what i would expect in bw with that many archons vs mutas soo yeah
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
March 31 2010 00:06 GMT
#22
Hrm, I mean the mutalisks also all stacked together...
Splitting would've made it definitely less one-sided, though it's still clear who the victor is.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
March 31 2010 00:10 GMT
#23
If we put 400 zerglings vs 10 Colossi in a choke point, would you say that they would need an even bigger nerf?

A bad example maybe , but my point still stands.
Who confronts units with splash damage like that? I don't think the purpose of this video is to show how "great" Thors are now, though it does show us how they are better against mass air now (obviously).
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
March 31 2010 00:16 GMT
#24
Thors are good but takes a while to get them.
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
March 31 2010 00:17 GMT
#25
On March 31 2010 08:50 Nal_rAwr wrote:
you dont know if they're getting closer to balancing the game or going more further away


If a single video about a situation that would never ever happen and where the mutas only came from a single direction while stacked on top of eachother is enough to make you think this, then you have no foundation from which to post on any sc2 topic.
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
March 31 2010 00:18 GMT
#26
--- Nuked ---
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 31 2010 00:18 GMT
#27
Thors are very good
should try to medivac/thor like shuttle reaver sometime ;D
:)
Martinni
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada169 Posts
March 31 2010 00:20 GMT
#28
On March 31 2010 08:49 Chen wrote:
duh? stacked air units vs an AA attack with splash wtf did you expect?


I love you. We should try 30 archons vs 90 mutas next!
this is kinda like the guy that started milking and cows... what the hell was he doing?
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
March 31 2010 00:21 GMT
#29
do 20 carriers vs 20 thors lol
fuck lag
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
March 31 2010 00:27 GMT
#30
You'd never get that many thors nor mutas in a real game. As others would say we still need to see how it plays out realistically and with micro included.

Anyways its not like the mutas will ever engage the thors optimally. Just harrass, thors are so slow they can't cover 2 bases and they are REALLY expensive and die to lings super easy soo idk how viable it'll be.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
bendez
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada283 Posts
March 31 2010 00:29 GMT
#31
On March 31 2010 08:55 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2010 08:51 fAker wrote:
too bad thors still sucks

they are to big and weird lookin

Thors rape Hydras (1 shot them if they have 1+ attack), rape mutas, do good vs roaches (but need some marauder support), do good vs Ultras....

What more do you want?

I use Thors almost every TvZ I play.


QFT. Seriously guys, thors counter hydras muta and ultras, as well as roaches to some degree. What more do you want?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 00:35:41
March 31 2010 00:35 GMT
#32
I want a unit that acts less like a fat guy at a marathon. Using it with the rest of my army is like putting it (my army) on a ball an chain, and even though the ball has a bitching attack the fight is usually over before it can navigate its ass within its shitty range and fire even one round.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
March 31 2010 00:36 GMT
#33
We need a pre-patch demonstration as well to compare no?
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
March 31 2010 00:40 GMT
#34
"Today we will be comparing 30 Mike Tyson's fighting 90 infant children"


Is that what we are witnessing ?

Oh wait 3 Thors died.

Look at that video. If you have 90 mutas are you really going to clump them up like that?

But I digress, if you made 90 mutas while scouting thor production like that.. you probably would.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
March 31 2010 00:41 GMT
#35
In a game earlier, my opponent went for a timing Thor-helion push against me. I had built a bunch of roaches to secure my expansions, which I threw against him, which did nothing, then I made 14-15 mutas and attacked, but the Thors completely tore them apart, and he proceeded to walk through my base. They have so many hitpoints that if the terran player brings 8-10 scvs along with his Thors, unless you have a ridiculous amount of units, its really hard to stop them. Especially Thor-viking combos.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
March 31 2010 00:45 GMT
#36
Thors still die far too easily with only 1 armor Protoss has flying earrings (sentry) that have 1 armor. Can't a thor do a little better?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 31 2010 00:52 GMT
#37
On March 31 2010 09:29 bendez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2010 08:55 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On March 31 2010 08:51 fAker wrote:
too bad thors still sucks

they are to big and weird lookin

Thors rape Hydras (1 shot them if they have 1+ attack), rape mutas, do good vs roaches (but need some marauder support), do good vs Ultras....

What more do you want?

I use Thors almost every TvZ I play.


QFT. Seriously guys, thors counter hydras muta and ultras, as well as roaches to some degree. What more do you want?

But, but, if its that big, it should win the game single-handedly!!!

But seriously, it would appear that terran mech finally got an answer for mass air. Maybe blizzard is trying to make mech the way to go in tvz as opposed to tvp, a reversal of broodwar? In this light the recent buff to banelings makes sense.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
March 31 2010 00:56 GMT
#38
On March 31 2010 09:35 Osmoses wrote:
I want a unit that acts less like a fat guy at a marathon. Using it with the rest of my army is like putting it (my army) on a ball an chain, and even though the ball has a bitching attack the fight is usually over before it can navigate its ass within its shitty range and fire even one round.


People never complained about slow Terran metal pushes in the original SC and Thors move about as fast as an unsieged tank. It's not a flaw, merely another thing a Terran player needs to consider when pursuing such tech.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 31 2010 00:56 GMT
#39
I don't see why this was too necessary rines cleaned up mutalisk pretty well. i guess they wanted to make thor a bit more useful as people pretty much stopped using them in opt for more rines and maruaders in their mix, but i still rather just use marauders and rines as maruaders slow ground units
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
March 31 2010 00:58 GMT
#40
On March 31 2010 08:50 Nal_rAwr wrote:
you dont know if they're getting closer to balancing the game or going more further away

quote of the year award goes to Nal_rAwr!

but seriously, I totally agree.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#43
PiGStarcraft263
davetesta45
CranKy Ducklings44
SteadfastSC41
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft263
RuFF_SC2 63
SteadfastSC 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 723
ggaemo 96
Sexy 8
Stormgate
WinterStarcraft1474
UpATreeSC167
Vindicta12
Dota 2
capcasts672
Counter-Strike
fl0m1579
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe209
Other Games
summit1g9254
shahzam1286
Day[9].tv1175
C9.Mang0168
ViBE159
Maynarde118
Trikslyr32
trigger1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1190
BasetradeTV18
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH114
• RyuSc2 57
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Stormgate
• mYiSmile10
Other Games
• Scarra1212
• Day9tv1175
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Summer Champion…
10h 15m
Stormgate Nexus
13h 15m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15h 15m
The PondCast
1d 9h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 10h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.