• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:31
CEST 20:31
KST 03:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview6[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026 Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
Where is EffOrt? BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread Total War: Warhammer 40K Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8826 users

30 Thors vs 90 Mutas as of Patch 7 - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 31 2010 00:06 GMT
#21
that's what i would expect in bw with that many archons vs mutas soo yeah
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 31 2010 00:06 GMT
#22
Hrm, I mean the mutalisks also all stacked together...
Splitting would've made it definitely less one-sided, though it's still clear who the victor is.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
March 31 2010 00:10 GMT
#23
If we put 400 zerglings vs 10 Colossi in a choke point, would you say that they would need an even bigger nerf?

A bad example maybe , but my point still stands.
Who confronts units with splash damage like that? I don't think the purpose of this video is to show how "great" Thors are now, though it does show us how they are better against mass air now (obviously).
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
March 31 2010 00:16 GMT
#24
Thors are good but takes a while to get them.
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
March 31 2010 00:17 GMT
#25
On March 31 2010 08:50 Nal_rAwr wrote:
you dont know if they're getting closer to balancing the game or going more further away


If a single video about a situation that would never ever happen and where the mutas only came from a single direction while stacked on top of eachother is enough to make you think this, then you have no foundation from which to post on any sc2 topic.
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
March 31 2010 00:18 GMT
#26
--- Nuked ---
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 31 2010 00:18 GMT
#27
Thors are very good
should try to medivac/thor like shuttle reaver sometime ;D
:)
Martinni
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada169 Posts
March 31 2010 00:20 GMT
#28
On March 31 2010 08:49 Chen wrote:
duh? stacked air units vs an AA attack with splash wtf did you expect?


I love you. We should try 30 archons vs 90 mutas next!
this is kinda like the guy that started milking and cows... what the hell was he doing?
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
March 31 2010 00:21 GMT
#29
do 20 carriers vs 20 thors lol
fuck lag
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
March 31 2010 00:27 GMT
#30
You'd never get that many thors nor mutas in a real game. As others would say we still need to see how it plays out realistically and with micro included.

Anyways its not like the mutas will ever engage the thors optimally. Just harrass, thors are so slow they can't cover 2 bases and they are REALLY expensive and die to lings super easy soo idk how viable it'll be.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
bendez
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada283 Posts
March 31 2010 00:29 GMT
#31
On March 31 2010 08:55 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2010 08:51 fAker wrote:
too bad thors still sucks

they are to big and weird lookin

Thors rape Hydras (1 shot them if they have 1+ attack), rape mutas, do good vs roaches (but need some marauder support), do good vs Ultras....

What more do you want?

I use Thors almost every TvZ I play.


QFT. Seriously guys, thors counter hydras muta and ultras, as well as roaches to some degree. What more do you want?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 00:35:41
March 31 2010 00:35 GMT
#32
I want a unit that acts less like a fat guy at a marathon. Using it with the rest of my army is like putting it (my army) on a ball an chain, and even though the ball has a bitching attack the fight is usually over before it can navigate its ass within its shitty range and fire even one round.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
March 31 2010 00:36 GMT
#33
We need a pre-patch demonstration as well to compare no?
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
March 31 2010 00:40 GMT
#34
"Today we will be comparing 30 Mike Tyson's fighting 90 infant children"


Is that what we are witnessing ?

Oh wait 3 Thors died.

Look at that video. If you have 90 mutas are you really going to clump them up like that?

But I digress, if you made 90 mutas while scouting thor production like that.. you probably would.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
March 31 2010 00:41 GMT
#35
In a game earlier, my opponent went for a timing Thor-helion push against me. I had built a bunch of roaches to secure my expansions, which I threw against him, which did nothing, then I made 14-15 mutas and attacked, but the Thors completely tore them apart, and he proceeded to walk through my base. They have so many hitpoints that if the terran player brings 8-10 scvs along with his Thors, unless you have a ridiculous amount of units, its really hard to stop them. Especially Thor-viking combos.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
March 31 2010 00:45 GMT
#36
Thors still die far too easily with only 1 armor Protoss has flying earrings (sentry) that have 1 armor. Can't a thor do a little better?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 31 2010 00:52 GMT
#37
On March 31 2010 09:29 bendez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2010 08:55 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On March 31 2010 08:51 fAker wrote:
too bad thors still sucks

they are to big and weird lookin

Thors rape Hydras (1 shot them if they have 1+ attack), rape mutas, do good vs roaches (but need some marauder support), do good vs Ultras....

What more do you want?

I use Thors almost every TvZ I play.


QFT. Seriously guys, thors counter hydras muta and ultras, as well as roaches to some degree. What more do you want?

But, but, if its that big, it should win the game single-handedly!!!

But seriously, it would appear that terran mech finally got an answer for mass air. Maybe blizzard is trying to make mech the way to go in tvz as opposed to tvp, a reversal of broodwar? In this light the recent buff to banelings makes sense.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
March 31 2010 00:56 GMT
#38
On March 31 2010 09:35 Osmoses wrote:
I want a unit that acts less like a fat guy at a marathon. Using it with the rest of my army is like putting it (my army) on a ball an chain, and even though the ball has a bitching attack the fight is usually over before it can navigate its ass within its shitty range and fire even one round.


People never complained about slow Terran metal pushes in the original SC and Thors move about as fast as an unsieged tank. It's not a flaw, merely another thing a Terran player needs to consider when pursuing such tech.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 31 2010 00:56 GMT
#39
I don't see why this was too necessary rines cleaned up mutalisk pretty well. i guess they wanted to make thor a bit more useful as people pretty much stopped using them in opt for more rines and maruaders in their mix, but i still rather just use marauders and rines as maruaders slow ground units
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
March 31 2010 00:58 GMT
#40
On March 31 2010 08:50 Nal_rAwr wrote:
you dont know if they're getting closer to balancing the game or going more further away

quote of the year award goes to Nal_rAwr!

but seriously, I totally agree.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 222
ProTech147
Livibee 140
MindelVK 34
RushiSC 33
JuggernautJason14
mouzHeroMarine 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3207
Sea 890
Shuttle 788
Mini 761
EffOrt 694
Soulkey 249
ggaemo 169
firebathero 133
Dewaltoss 56
Mong 54
[ Show more ]
Hyun 27
sorry 23
Sacsri 20
Rock 15
IntoTheRainbow 14
Bale 13
Shine 11
Dota 2
qojqva4016
420jenkins494
monkeys_forever212
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1321
edward180
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu214
Other Games
pashabiceps4393
Grubby2977
FrodaN1196
Dendi908
B2W.Neo714
ceh9596
Beastyqt575
Hui .216
C9.Mang0180
ArmadaUGS156
XaKoH 108
BRAT_OK 100
Trikslyr70
OptimusSC20
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream2890
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 33
• FirePhoenix9
• 80smullet 8
• Michael_bg 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade875
Other Games
• imaqtpie779
• Shiphtur206
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
5h 29m
Replay Cast
14h 29m
The PondCast
1d 15h
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-15
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.