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kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1405 Posts
March 05 2010 10:23 GMT
#161
i was seriously disappointed after reading the patch notes : (
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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
March 05 2010 10:27 GMT
#162
On March 05 2010 19:16 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
At least this helps PvP a bit which has become a massive zeal/sentry vs zeal/sentry war. I find PvZ pretty hard and this is definitely not helping.

Also the next person to post a justification of a patch, modification or whatever by comparing a unit/building with it's counter-part at the other races, saying they should be equal, is going to receive a ban. That has no place in a serious discussion and is just mindless babbling with no base. SC isn't that simple.


Well, considering the main part of the patch was Blizzard equalizing upgrade times between the races, it's not surprising it spawns such discussions.
I'll call Nada.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
March 05 2010 10:28 GMT
#163
On March 05 2010 19:16 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:

Also the next person to post a justification of a patch, modification or whatever by comparing a unit/building with it's counter-part at the other races, saying they should be equal, is going to receive a ban. That has no place in a serious discussion and is just mindless babbling with no base. SC isn't that simple.


Hang in there Nazgul, you were gifted with heroic rts abilities. Many others have not been.

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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 10:40:34
March 05 2010 10:40 GMT
#164
Protoss is really so strong that it needs all these nerfs? The majority of what I've seen on streams in P's losing to Z's. Not possessing a key, though, I suppose I can't complain. Especially since Terran is looking most like the race I want to play anyway.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 05 2010 11:24 GMT
#165
On March 05 2010 19:40 3clipse wrote:
Protoss is really so strong that it needs all these nerfs? The majority of what I've seen on streams in P's losing to Z's. Not possessing a key, though, I suppose I can't complain. Especially since Terran is looking most like the race I want to play anyway.

well early game p has a bit of an advantage, zerg cant expand before tech or they die to zeals various tech rushes are good if you catch them off guard, but if z gets into the mid game fine it becomes very hard for protoss cuz you dont really have a good all purpose backbone to your army like you did with goons in sc1. collosus are good damage dealers but corruptors rape them and if you get stalkers to deal with the corruptors... well then you made stalkers and if you make stalkers you instantly lose the game. temps are good but theyre support units, and zeals blow once theres a good mass of hydra roach around

so ya blizz is balancing the early game without accounting for how boned it leaves p in the mid game.
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Paperkat
Profile Joined July 2009
United Kingdom47 Posts
March 05 2010 11:28 GMT
#166
its ok guys think about it when all your units get emp'ed you dont have shields anyway so thats -10 shield point isnt the end of the world
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 11:43:57
March 05 2010 11:41 GMT
#167
On March 05 2010 12:40 Mirhi wrote:
Blizz just said 'F U' to every Protoss player. Why did Zealots get nerfed again?


It seems as a lot of players that already chosen a certain race gets upset when their race gets weaker and weaker, but I do not understand at all why they feel that way.

One thing that is certain is that Blizzard will balance the game completely. The problem on the other hand is how quickly it will die if they do not steer away from those hard counters that is the core of the game.
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
March 05 2010 11:45 GMT
#168
Fuck yeah, zealots needed that nerf!
Holden Caulfield
Profile Joined March 2010
102 Posts
March 05 2010 12:48 GMT
#169
Any patch buffing Terrans ia a good patch
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 13:13:24
March 05 2010 13:10 GMT
#170
3 Patches in, it has become more obvious that Blizzard will not do anything about the real issues of the game, instead they're just tweaking some unit numbers.

Examples of the issues being the high-ground mechanic, latency and improving positional micro/play (better static defenses as well as units such as spider mines/lurkers).

Doomsayer I know, but i will stick to being pessimistic until proven otherwise.
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Rodiel
Profile Joined August 2006
France573 Posts
March 05 2010 13:16 GMT
#171
in Starcraft 1 I remember that they have UP terran in a lot of patches
Koffiegast
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands346 Posts
March 05 2010 13:22 GMT
#172
Ah geez, as if T Mball isnt as piss easy as it was.

Just a-move and win the game with 30 apm micro. Cheers.
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 13:40:37
March 05 2010 13:40 GMT
#173
jesus christ, this is gonna help my playstyle so much

im really surprised they didnt nerf the colosuss or make archon better tho
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
March 05 2010 13:45 GMT
#174
On March 05 2010 22:40 MorroW wrote:
jesus christ, this is gonna help my playstyle so much


You're still cheesing in SC2? :D
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
March 05 2010 13:47 GMT
#175
On March 05 2010 22:45 Senx wrote:
jesus christ, this is gonna help my playstyle so much

Jesus christ, nerfing roaches, mutas, nydus and ultras will help my playstyle so much
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Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
March 05 2010 13:57 GMT
#176
It's funny to watch people freak out and say Terrans are unbeatable now because of a slight boost to upgrade time. Also, 10 energy on zealot. It's very slight.
Be patient everyone, if there is a problem, it will be addressed in time.
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Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
March 05 2010 14:03 GMT
#177
On March 05 2010 22:57 Tdelamay wrote:
It's funny to watch people freak out and say Terrans are unbeatable now because of a slight boost to upgrade time. Also, 10 energy on zealot. It's very slight.
Be patient everyone, if there is a problem, it will be addressed in time.


But think of the damage it'll do to their win/loss records! Never mind that they are being erased at the end of beta anyway...
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
March 05 2010 14:06 GMT
#178
This is the way Blizzard balances, in cycles. They hit one group with the nerf bat continually, bit by bit, and then once they've gotten them "weak" enough, they buff them back up again.

Protoss will see some love before the Beta is out, my friends; mark my words. Perhaps even the long-awaited Stalker buff...
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Mutaahh
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands859 Posts
March 05 2010 14:07 GMT
#179
You are all thinking wrong.

They are testing things. If something is patched you all think its final... IT IS NOT FINAL!

Beta is testing balance out.....
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Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 14:18:28
March 05 2010 14:15 GMT
#180
if anything they should either nerf mutas or strengthen psi storm... its ridiculous how hard late game is in pvz... you have no dps at all when roaches tank everything and mutas snipe everything you have...

psi storms suck, collosus are very vulnerable, and zealots/stalkers/sentries are a joke once there are a critical mass of mutas.

EDIT: i mined out 3 bases entirely (there is no depleted geysers anymore - u just cant mine gas there anymore as I realized) vs a 3 base zerg and his ball of units just dont die! =(
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