Am I the only person who finds that my mouse speed is WAY slower in SC2? I increased it literally to max speed settings with max sensitivity and I just find my mouse is so much slower in SC2. It just doesn't have that crisp movement as it did in BW.

Do you guys think this might be a problem with just my comp (lowest settings for everything)? Or perhaps because of increased graphics?

I also find it very difficult to select individual units as well, even if they are isolated (in the army clump it's just ridiculous).

Thoughts/opinions? Discuss

edit:

Title should probably be changed to Cursor speed in SC2.

Pape

Serbia419 Posts

March 01 2010 03:43 GMT

I noticed this too. I have a 1600 dpi mouse and I set everything at highest and it still moves a little too slow for my taste. My graphics are at ultra with a ati 4890 at 1920x1080 which runs it pretty easily and I don't think thats the problem, because decreasing the settings still doesn't help the mouse speed!

inReacH

Sweden1612 Posts

March 01 2010 03:44 GMT

It's because the resolution isn't 640x480

xmShake

United States1100 Posts

March 01 2010 03:46 GMT

On March 01 2010 12:44 inReacH wrote:
It's because the resolution isn't 640x480

This. Also try turning Vsync off.

sob3k

United States7572 Posts

March 01 2010 03:55 GMT

I think their mouse sensitivity slider in game is not a big enough range, I play at 100%.

It really wouldn't hurt to make the slider go to the equivalent of 150% or whatever, some people want to play like that (I'd probably go to 115%), and it certainly isn't hurting anyone...

theqat

United States2856 Posts

March 01 2010 04:01 GMT

vsync off, set renderahead to 1 or 0 in graphics drivers

see this guide to reducing mouse lag: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3601

semantics

10040 Posts

March 01 2010 04:02 GMT

Depending on your resolutions and mouse speed you used in broodwar it can be very slow, take it if you played at 640x480 in broodwar you had no choice in this, but had a 1920x1200 monitor. so instead of switching your mouse setting every time you poped in to play brood you would either you MoC's fun little tools or set your mouse to something that works well in both. Personally with my 1920x1080 and 1920x1200 monitors i keep my mouse at 2600 dpi and could easily make it higher. This is why some mice hit 3000 5000 dpi some people have larger monitors then others and higher tolerance for smaller movements.

Up your mouse speed to 1600 and put the slider out of game which i know you will have with your mouses software to like 10 that should make it as fast as possible, then you could also do this with in game speed but i don't think that stacks. :D

mormes

Brazil13 Posts

March 01 2010 04:13 GMT

the speed isnt slower always its just when u do a green box, if u note when u start doing a box the speed slows i think its it

Pyrrhuloxia

United States6700 Posts

March 01 2010 04:17 GMT

On March 01 2010 13:13 mormes wrote:
the speed isnt slower always its just when u do a green box, if u note when u start doing a box the speed slows i think its it

that would suck if true...

DefMatrixUltra

Canada1992 Posts

March 01 2010 05:05 GMT

#10

On March 01 2010 12:44 inReacH wrote:
It's because the resolution isn't 640x480

This is the actual reason. The best solution is to use a mouse with higher DPI. Those 400 DPI mice that many people like in BW just won't work in SC2.

Also, has anyone in the beta done any tests on what the slider actually does? The Windows slider just causes your mouse to skip pixels after a certain point, for example. I wonder if 100% is a 1:1 ratio (meaning it moves at actual mouse speed) or if it something like the Windows slider.

Zapdos_Smithh

Canada2620 Posts

March 01 2010 06:33 GMT

#11

On March 01 2010 14:05 DefMatrixUltra wrote:

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Ah ok. I have a Salmosa though so I can't imagine I need more DPI no? (Salmosa has 1800)

I turned off vsync, will try it now.

ffswowsucks

Greece2297 Posts

March 01 2010 10:07 GMT

#12

i have a deathadder, and playing at 1680x1050 with an ati 5870. I didnt touch the sensitivity settings, left it on default and everything seems fine.

Puosu

6985 Posts

March 01 2010 10:11 GMT

#13

Mini optical's 400 dpi is not going to cut it anymore, lower the resolution to the minimum or get another mouse. If you use a low dpi mouse and just pump all the settings to max speed the mouse is going to be terribly inaccurate.

Zapdos_Smithh

Canada2620 Posts

March 01 2010 10:16 GMT

#14

On March 01 2010 19:11 Puosu wrote:
Mini optical's 400 dpi is not going to cut it anymore, lower the resolution to the minimum or get another mouse. If you use a low dpi mouse and just pump all the settings to max speed the mouse is going to be terribly inaccurate.

If you read my comment before I mentioned that I have a Salmosa...but 1800 dpi isn't enough? Is there a real drastic improvement with let's say something with 3000 or 4000 dpi?

Tef

Sweden443 Posts

March 01 2010 10:20 GMT

#15

I am playing on 50% with my Razor Lachesis and Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0. Resolution 1280x1024.

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

March 01 2010 10:40 GMT

#16

If you can't get the mouse speed in SC2 to the same speed you have in Windows (assuming you run Windows (at least) with the same resolution as SC2) then SC2 might have a bug there.

Makenshi

Sweden2105 Posts

March 01 2010 11:21 GMT

#17

I had th same problem at first, the mouse feeling a bit off and uncomfortable, but there's a quick fix for that

Options -> Gameplay -> Check the "Reduce Mouse Lag" box and voila! Works perfectly for me now

I'd also recommend dragging up the scroll sliders abit to 50% or so

Zilver

Finland282 Posts

March 01 2010 11:57 GMT

#18

You could just measure the distance your mouse moves across the bw screen vertically, and match the same distance in sc2

inReacH

Sweden1612 Posts

March 01 2010 12:38 GMT

#19

Hello,

I made a thread in the SC2 section regarding mouse speed problems with my Salmosa for sc2 which you posted in. Just a quick question.

You mentioned the resolution for the screen in BW being low, would a higher DPI mouse fix this problem? I am using a Salmosa at the moment at max dpi. I read your review on the Abyssus and it looks pretty nice (nice transition from salmosa at least). Do you think 3500 dpi would fix this issue? By the way I'm concerned about the top of the abyssus being all plastic, is the whole mouse that slippery plastic on the side of the salmosa? That plastic is a pain.

I'm also not sure whether or not to wait for a new sc2 mouse that razer will come out with (i have no idea whether or not it will be good but I'd be pretty annoying if i bought an abyssus then they came out with a better mouse).

Btw love your youtube vods/channel, good commentary as well.

And ya I'm actually in Burnaby/Vancouver area as well (saw that you mentioned BCIT in your youtube channel).

Anyway just curious to see what you would recommend considering you seem pretty knowledgeable with this type of stuff.

Thanks.

Alright the reason your mouse moves faster in SC2 than in SC is because in SC the resolution is 640x480 and in SC2 it is much higher than that.

When you have your mouse at a certain sensitivity, it will move a certain number of pixels per millimeter. When you are running a LOWER resolution, the pixels are actually larger because there is less of them to fill up the same surface area.

EG say your monitor is 21'', in SC1, the program is using 640*480 pixels to fill up that area, in SC2 the program is (forexample) 1280*960.

There is literally twice the amount of pixels being displayed on the same surface in SC2 but the mouse still moves the same number of pixels per millimeter. This means the mouse will be HALF as sensitive.

If you want to get your mouse to behave the same as it did in SC1, go into SC1, lay a ruler vertically beside your mouse and bring the cursor to the bottom of the screen while bringing it lined up to an easy to remember notch on the ruler(some whole number like 1,2,3,4,5)

Measure how many inches(or fractions of an inch) it takes to move it all the way to the top of the screen in BW.

Then just use SC2's in game sensitivity slides to match this.

HOWEVER, you should be synchronizing your sensitivities between your DESKTOP and SC2.
You do not want to be constantly changing how sensitive your mouse is multiple times per day. This is very detrimental to acquiring good/fast/confident mouse accuracy.

As a side note, the sensitivity you've become used to in SC1 is probably way way too high.
If you are just playing for fun then use whatever you feel like but if you actually want to get a good mouse you should use a fairly low mouse sensitivity.

Not proofreading this post, I hope it's legible.

IPS.Blue

Germany309 Posts

June 02 2010 14:40 GMT

#20

On March 01 2010 14:05 DefMatrixUltra wrote:

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[...]

Also, has anyone in the beta done any tests on what the slider actually does? The Windows slider just causes your mouse to skip pixels after a certain point, for example. I wonder if 100% is a 1:1 ratio (meaning it moves at actual mouse speed) or if it something like the Windows slider.

I have done a little testing. I suspect that the Slider represents some kind of acceleration.
What really annoys me, is that 100 % ingame-sensitivity is not the same as the speed in Windows (same resoultion of course). Even 50 % seems faster. I ended up with 38 % ingame-sensitivty being close to the normal Windows-sensitivity.

I posted in the german Battle.net forums, but got no response from Blizzard. This kind of setting has defineatly got to be changed, its horrible.

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