EPTStarCraft 2 Beta Patch 2 (version 0.4.0.14133) - Page 8
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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Unlisked
India28 Posts
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Biribiri
Canada21 Posts
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Zilver
Finland282 Posts
On February 27 2010 14:07 On_Slaught wrote: This is what happens when 70% of the player pool plays protoss and wins a lot. This happens when wow players join the beta and start spamming the balance board (they're experts at this). | ||
sith
United States2474 Posts
Blizz's philosophy when it came to balance in WoW PvP is always to nerf, never to buff. The problem is, if you have one overpowered ability then you will usually need to buff more than one counter ability to match it. This creates a war of escalation and is much more difficult to keep track of than the alternative: nerfing. Nobody likes nerfing, but it's much, much easier to fix one attribute than change several others. In this case, it's a lot easier to nerf Protoss than it is to buff Zerg/Terran which is what a lot of people are suggesting. I'm all in favor of Protoss nerfs if it means their balance is more on par with the other races, even though I play it myself. | ||
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omgCRAZY
Canada551 Posts
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
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kickinhead
Switzerland2069 Posts
I love T Mech in SCII; so I think it's awesome. | ||
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Ronald_McD
Canada807 Posts
Protoss got nerfed to shit. Terran lookin' sexy Zerg pretty much stays the same. I really want to see some potent changes for Zerg. | ||
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Quixoticism
United States80 Posts
Personally, I hope Blizzard takes out the macro mechanics before the game ships. It looks like all this patch does is effect the game timings. | ||
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
There are allot of things I think Blizzard could have put more polish/effort/creativity into. Macro in particular is one issue I felt could have been vastly improved but I am thankful for the progress that was made. Part of me still wonders what could have been had Blizzard pushed the envelope alittle bit more. I can understand the changes they are making as the easiest way to make the game "fit" and I am by no means calling Blizzard lazy...but part of me expected better from Blizzard. My approach in light of this kind of disappointment/disagreement on so many issues is to not get too worked up over patch changes. Allot more uncomfortable changes will occur before beta is over and I really dont want my impression of SC2 to be tarnished before the game is even released. | ||
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PGHammer
United States132 Posts
If you're willing, drop down to all detail settings at medium *except* movies (leave those at 3D). Yes; I have a reason for the odd request. I have said before (specifically in the Graphics vs. Gameplay thread) that the original beta client was one of the best looking games at medium detail period (let alone one of the best-looking RTS titles, regardless of resolution) and I was wondering if the folks at Blizard could improve on it. Ghu help us; they found a way. I categorically admit to owning one of the weakest PCIe graphics cards on Earth (HIS AMD HD3450 PCIe with just 256 MB of DDR2). A decided wimp. Yet despite the wimpy GPU, I can dial things up to 1360x800 (everything at medium, including physics, except for movies, which is at 3D/High), and without dropping below 20 fps. The original client would drop as far down as to 15 fps (5 frames/second less). And that was with physics switched *off*. Still, despite the evidence of my own eyeballs, I want additional data (hence the question). Apparently, despite the nerfing of the Mothership, Blizzard found time to sneak in some actual performance gains. I'm actually seriously impressed (nay, seriously shocked). | ||
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Bischu
Sweden25 Posts
 . So used to rejoice when faced against a terran. I'll play some more until I go QQing about imba but dang marines are so good with automicro. OK NVM terran is unbelievably IMBA in PvT <.<, How are you supposed to counter vikings? They rape anything airwise and since u then can't make collosus u get raped by marines. Guess storm or something but so easy to get emp'd. T_T | ||
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PGHammer
United States132 Posts
On February 27 2010 14:44 Quixoticism wrote: I don't see why this change to CB is being taken like it's the end of the world for the protoss. Hopefully this will mean less Protoss players though as all the platinum streams seem to be PvP. Personally, I hope Blizzard takes out the macro mechanics before the game ships. It looks like all this patch does is effect the game timings. The change is that you can't CB allied structures (you can still CB your own). Also, it costs *less* to CB (10 minerals, down from 15). Cooldown and length remain unchanged. For Terrans, this is partially offset by Extra Supplies (Supply Depot add-on from the CC; you do NOT lose that when upgrading to Orbital Command or Planetary Fortress); what remains is offset by Calldown MULE. The Zerg don't need the offset, as they have the lowest unit cost of any of the three species (as they did in SC1). There is a surprise in this patch (other than the nerf and buffs) that I certainly wasn't expecting. There is actually better performance compared to the original client (I went straight from the original to patch 2). I actually *added* Physics (Medium vs. Off), leaving all other settings at medium detail (default is low or off) at 1360x800/32-bit. I didn't drop below 24 fps at all. (The floor moved from 19 fps with the original client.) Increase detail after two patches, but framerates improve? | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
On February 27 2010 10:22 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I really wish I had this patch when I was playing my first 80 games as Terran lol and by 80, you mean 200  | ||
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Rothbardian
United States497 Posts
On February 27 2010 15:36 Neliel-54N wrote: Just lost my first straight up PvT scary feeling I dare say . So used to rejoice when faced against a terran. I'll play some more until I go QQing about imba but dang marines are so good with automicro. OK NVM terran is unbelievably IMBA in PvT <.<, How are you supposed to counter vikings? They rape anything airwise and since u then can't make collosus u get raped by marines. Guess storm or something but so easy to get emp'd. T_T Void Rays/Phoenix absolutely demolish vikings. Also, Stalkers are pretty good, too especially with blink. It all comes down to Micro. Nothing changed the patch in regard with these units. Sure, Vikings got a little buff, but as a Terran player, I can say we are still the hardest race to play. There's a reason you scarcely see any Terrans in the running for the top spots... | ||
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
On February 27 2010 15:57 Rothbardian wrote: Void Rays/Phoenix absolutely demolish vikings. Also, Stalkers are pretty good, too especially with blink. It all comes down to Micro. Nothing changed the patch in regard with these units. Sure, Vikings got a little buff, but as a Terran player, I can say we are still the hardest race to play. There's a reason you scarcely see any Terrans in the running for the top spots... maybe because the patch just release ? | ||
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Jarvs
Australia639 Posts
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Jenia6109
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Same | ||
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