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Bull-Demon
Profile Joined January 2003
United States582 Posts
February 27 2010 03:03 GMT
#101
I don't get the race switching stuff either. This isn't the final build of the game and its not like everyone has spent months and months perfecting strategies around the current build. This is the beta. Who cares about winning or losing, just try different shit and see what happens.
~_~
Izzachar
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden285 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-27 03:15:25
February 27 2010 03:04 GMT
#102
Just stop it. As if protoss isn't doing well enough already.

If response can own with protoss, then it is possible. Maybe try build smth else then dual gate zealot spam once? 10s on nexus is hardly -that- game breaking.

I think we should all be happy for terran buff so we get to see more terran match ups. I do feel protoss is pretty well balanced race, most of their units frequently gets used. Terran on the other hand some units are barely used and could use an incentive for ppl to start use them (however buffing bio seems a bit weird). I'm way more concerned about infestor, siege tank and units that do not get used so often. Protoss most played race and high ranked Im not concerned about a slight nerf. Protoss can beat both T and Z and high ranked matches seem to go both ways in those match ups. Z hardly dominating, calling for queen nerf is ridiculous. Skill of player and tactical choices seem to play the most deciding factor who wins. So the game isnt awfully unbalanced so much that it is the major deciding factor of a match, if you loose its probably because the other player simply is better (oh no can this be!). If the balance is in favor of a faction, its in favor of both zerg and protoss.

Sure Zerg can switch tech like that. Protoss on the other hand has (imo) harder counters then zerg (immortal, colossus, HT, ray) and better casters and special abilities then zerg have. Better turrets and better building (doesnt have to sacrifice or occupy a worker), not as vulnerable supply (phoenix pew pew overlords) and doesn't have to occupy army making with supply or worker making. Harassing a zerg players workers is simply not a monetary loss for him but also a lot of larvae that could become units lost to making workers. So having larvae to instantly morph into x nr of units has its pros and cons.






wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
February 27 2010 03:04 GMT
#103
Amazing patch, gotta lol at the further Mothership nerfs, it's the slowest piece of crap ever now! Probably never going to see one anymore unless they buff it again.

Only thing I don't understand is the further reaper nerf.. they are simply unusable now?
here i am
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
February 27 2010 03:05 GMT
#104
As a terran, I can safely say the reactor lab build time decrease way too much. The banshee change was nice because it essentially made banshee's the last teir of unit. Beyond that Motherships got hit a bit harder than expected, especially considering the corrupter buff =/
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
WhiteKnight
Profile Joined December 2009
New Zealand134 Posts
February 27 2010 03:07 GMT
#105
lol... They killed the mother ship. Absolutely every stat got nerfed!

It says they reduced the attack from 8 to 6.. What does that mean? I only ever see it fire two beams at a single target.

I was kinda hoping the Ultra got a Buff.
Bull-Demon
Profile Joined January 2003
United States582 Posts
February 27 2010 03:11 GMT
#106
I think the point of the mothership is to be a joking "fun" unit. Not something you'd really see in the competitive environment. Think infested terrans from BW.
~_~
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
February 27 2010 03:13 GMT
#107
Big buff to terran and huge nerf to the mothership I guess that was to be expected

Chronoboost is a bit surprising tho
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
February 27 2010 03:13 GMT
#108
On February 27 2010 12:07 WhiteKnight wrote:
I was kinda hoping the Ultra got a Buff.


Ultras are pretty fucked up as they are.. At least P and T has some good counter units for them in SC2.. Nothing to see here ... ;P
P⊧[1]<a>[2]<a>[3]<a>tt | P ≝ 1.a.2.a.3.a.P
theuser
Profile Joined June 2008
Romania176 Posts
February 27 2010 03:15 GMT
#109
i also play terran just because it was and always will be the hardest race to master. And i too approve of this patch, much needed against the 75% protoss players out there.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-27 03:35:12
February 27 2010 03:34 GMT
#110
STILL no roach nerf?

I agree with a lot of these changes, but it seems like zerg is stronger than ever. Edit: vs P at least
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
February 27 2010 03:40 GMT
#111
On February 27 2010 10:28 blade55555 wrote:
lol wow protoss mothership got a huge nerf :O. Wonder why 2 patches in 2 days? weird.


looks fine for me.. i think this game would need a TON of patches before being really competitive..
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
February 27 2010 03:41 GMT
#112
After patch played against 5 terrans in a row (me as zerg). Lost each game vs players i'd beaten before. Their pushes just seemed to come so much quicker and I couldn't handle it. Maybe im tired and not playing well. After that I tried T myself and came up against WhiteRa and unluckily for him he fast expo'd while I was testing out a 3 rax marine rush ^^
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-27 03:44:09
February 27 2010 03:41 GMT
#113
On February 27 2010 12:03 Virtue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 11:13 TheAntZ wrote:
On February 27 2010 11:10 Virtue wrote:
On February 27 2010 10:54 TheAntZ wrote:
On February 27 2010 10:49 StarsPride wrote:
lmao @ whiners wanting to switch races. grow up plz

yeah, cuz growing up = loving to lose? fuck off

Growing up is not acting like a whiny 2 year old rage quitting the game after every loss, haha frankly i never understood rage quitting outta like a tournament where money is on the line.

You seem to not have much reading comprehension, never said I'm angry about the protoss nerf, nor that I rage quit games, nor that I even play protoss exclusively

Haha and yet you insult me you seem very much the angry type.

"yeah, cuz growing up = loving to lose? fuck off"

lol seriously i'm suppose to believe that you're not an angry person, you insult me and insult everyone you're just full of angry imo, but oh wait i r not good at reading comprehension i must be inferring the wrong things from fuck off and you must not have much reading comprehension.

This was a generalization to peoples characters when they loose games it was never directed at you although now i do think it fits you just fine mr omg everything is a personal attack on me so i must insult the people on the Internet.

=p

again, TRY TO READ WHAT I WRITE
didnt say i wasnt angry. I said im not angry about the protoss nerf
seriously put some effort into it
gonna stop here, not a fan of derailing a perfectly good topic

On February 27 2010 12:15 theuser wrote:
i also play terran just because it was and always will be the hardest race to master. And i too approve of this patch, much needed against the 75% protoss players out there.


oh god dont tell me the bullshit terran elitism is carrying over to sc2
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Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
February 27 2010 03:45 GMT
#114
On February 27 2010 10:29 Ziph wrote:
They should reduce lingspeed so you can actualy get away with your zealots or are able to scout.


And they need to make queens melee or just make them drone range :D
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 27 2010 03:48 GMT
#115
lol, wow. i can only say one thing after reading all this qq

i'm glad u guys aren't the ones balancing the game
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wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
February 27 2010 03:49 GMT
#116
They shouldn't have buffed terran marine rushes, rather buff helions (more base dmg instead of so much special like they did w/ vikings) and tanks (+1 armor) and some build times decreased on vikings and thors. Encourage nice games not rush games.
here i am
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
February 27 2010 03:52 GMT
#117
On February 27 2010 12:45 Tump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 10:29 Ziph wrote:
They should reduce lingspeed so you can actualy get away with your zealots or are able to scout.


And they need to make queens melee or just make them drone range :D

Drone range and probe range is melee now XD
Liquid'Nony: "I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok."
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 27 2010 03:58 GMT
#118
On February 27 2010 12:49 wintergt wrote:
They shouldn't have buffed terran marine rushes, rather buff helions (more base dmg instead of so much special like they did w/ vikings) and tanks (+1 armor) and some build times decreased on vikings and thors. Encourage nice games not rush games.


Yeah I agree, they didn't really buff the right things. Factory units in general are already pretty terrible compared to barracks
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
February 27 2010 03:59 GMT
#119
Holy shit!!!!! I like the changes for terrans but Im suprised they nerfed the mothership so much! OMG.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
February 27 2010 04:06 GMT
#120
thanks for this
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