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On August 27 2010 09:08 Azile wrote:
The more zerg I play the more I come to realize the vast majority of what Day9 talks about applies to T/P only. I don't know if he himself realizes that because he has played so little of SC2.. maybe he doesn't realize the bigger difference in playstyle there is between T-P---------Z in SC2 compared to BW?
Idk.. either way it saddens me. =/
Not true at all...
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So there's no daily tonight I assume, right?
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On August 27 2010 10:32 Jenslyn87 wrote:
Is there a daily? It doesn't seem to show up in the calender and I know he was off to do a tournament or something, but I'm pretty sure he said yesterday that he would attempt to have dailies rdy for when he's gone?
Day[9] will be attending MLG in Raleigh this weekend, just like HD and husky, so don't expect anything new. the MLG site streams certain sc2 matches commentated by them
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On August 27 2010 09:08 Azile wrote:
The more zerg I play the more I come to realize the vast majority of what Day9 talks about applies to T/P only. I don't know if he himself realizes that because he has played so little of SC2.. maybe he doesn't realize the bigger difference in playstyle there is between T-P---------Z in SC2 compared to BW?
Idk.. either way it saddens me. =/
Schauwgne has seemingly left the swarm. He took with him a decades knowledge of Zerg. Losing his voice hurt Zerg, having him educate Terrans and Protoss hurt even more.
If you listen to his general tactics discussion most of it can be applied to Zerg play. Transitioning well, army positioning, expansion timings (planned and improptu) it all applies. There does seem to be a lack of analyzing Zerg build orders in vZ matchups. Either because the T/P is dominating a Zerg or it's still the more interesting build (how many times can you analyze 14pool). I don't know the reasons behind it but I'd like to see him do more concentrating on Zerg. 2 base 3 hatch play and hatch first openings specifically (maybe off zero queens?).
Personally my only hope is that he showcases his new Zerg stuff he's been working on and occasionally mentioning. The player in me says he should keep that to himself since that's his former race, the student (and Zerg) in me says I need Day9's greater knowledge to lead my swarm to victory. Lessons by IdrA just aren't enough.
I challenge you Day[9], to prove you haven't forsaken the swarm in favor of powerful units, flashy mechanics, and gratuitous amounts of splash damage. Where's the Day that believes if you throw enough "stuff" at the problem it goes away, even if it's Zerglings. The Day that sneak's Ultra Ling into a vulnerable expansion. Or has his army perfectly positioned to block his opposition, the "GET OUTTA MAH BAISE" austrailian Zerg. Where are you Day...the gauntlet is down. Yes you play random but you are ZERG.
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Well Day has always says he loved zerg because you could be aggressive and expand in brood war.
If you watch the latest daily he gets asked a question a bit about it where he says that he is having trouble figuring out a way to be aggressive with zerg the way he was able to be in brood war.
Nothing too surprising really, I'm sure more builds will come out that will let the zerg player be more offensive and Sean will return to the swarm. 
Edit: he also mentioned how boring it was to cast Zerg early games since every single Zerg opened the exact same way every game at IEM apparently.
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I wish I could just once, watch an archived show on blip.tv without it giving me problems.
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On August 27 2010 11:17 Killmour wrote:Well Day has always says he loved zerg because you could be aggressive and expand in brood war. If you watch the latest daily he gets asked a question a bit about it where he says that he is having trouble figuring out a way to be aggressive with zerg the way he was able to be in brood war. Nothing too surprising really, I'm sure more builds will come out that will let the zerg player be more offensive and Sean will return to the swarm. Edit: he also mentioned how boring it was to cast Zerg early games since every single Zerg opened the exact same way every game at IEM apparently.
Wasn't that 14 gas 13 pool or am I mistaken?
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+ Show Spoiler + On August 27 2010 11:24 Jenslyn87 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 11:17 Killmour wrote:Well Day has always says he loved zerg because you could be aggressive and expand in brood war. If you watch the latest daily he gets asked a question a bit about it where he says that he is having trouble figuring out a way to be aggressive with zerg the way he was able to be in brood war. Nothing too surprising really, I'm sure more builds will come out that will let the zerg player be more offensive and Sean will return to the swarm. Edit: he also mentioned how boring it was to cast Zerg early games since every single Zerg opened the exact same way every game at IEM apparently. Wasn't that 14 gas 13 pool or am I mistaken?
Haha, yea ZvT safe opening!
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On August 27 2010 11:17 Killmour wrote:Well Day has always says he loved zerg because you could be aggressive and expand in brood war. If you watch the latest daily he gets asked a question a bit about it where he says that he is having trouble figuring out a way to be aggressive with zerg the way he was able to be in brood war. Nothing too surprising really, I'm sure more builds will come out that will let the zerg player be more offensive and Sean will return to the swarm. Edit: he also mentioned how boring it was to cast Zerg early games since every single Zerg opened the exact same way every game at IEM apparently.
Zergs always open the same way (against terran) because any other opening is only going to put you behind with no actual benefit, as Dimaga has showed everyone, zerg cheeses are unreliable and fail more than they succeed, and there is simply no advantage to pooling at a different supply than 13 or 14.
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On August 27 2010 11:17 Killmour wrote:Well Day has always says he loved zerg because you could be aggressive and expand in brood war. If you watch the latest daily he gets asked a question a bit about it where he says that he is having trouble figuring out a way to be aggressive with zerg the way he was able to be in brood war. Nothing too surprising really, I'm sure more builds will come out that will let the zerg player be more offensive and Sean will return to the swarm. Edit: he also mentioned how boring it was to cast Zerg early games since every single Zerg opened the exact same way every game at IEM apparently.
You lie! Idra opened 15 gas 14/15 pool. That's COMPLETELY different from 14 gas 13/14 pool.
Also, if you're hankering for some zerg-centric advice and analysis I recommend psystarcraft. He's a damn fine player and his videos are all edutaining.
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Did everyone posting in the last page or two miss the ZvZ section he JUST did on 8/12/2010?!
It was 35 minutes of ALL zerg. He talked about the early game, the transition into mid-game, and how 10/10 builds are drastically different from 14/14 builds, and stuff like that. It was extremely informative to zergs.
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Not to mention that I think I've heard him 5 times now talk about how he's been experimenting with getting no Queens.
Pay attention people!
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Noes... a daily on MorroWs abuse play. I just get angry by seeing that again. Well, well Day[9] is still entertaining.
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A lot of Day9 advice has been general lately. Rather than focus on unit break downs and build orders he may not know about, he seems to focus on things he does like timing, macro/micro mistake etc. I would rather him handle it that way, instead of BS his way around things he isnt familar with.
Personally I think since phase 2 of beta, he has seemed lost when it comes to Zerg play. After the IEM he seems to realize some of Zerg problems now. At least he hasnt been harping on Nydus worms in his recent cast. Im sure quite a few people will disagree with me, but that is my opinion on his Zerg views.
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Day9 mentioned some protoss player running a strat revolved around constant expanding on 1-2 gas with massive forces of zealots/stalkers. Anyone have any replays of this (or other good) player doing this?
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guys, does we ll have MLG free streaming somewhere? can someone provide info? i want follow Sean!
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On August 27 2010 15:50 Sando wrote:
Day9 mentioned some protoss player running a strat revolved around constant expanding on 1-2 gas with massive forces of zealots/stalkers. Anyone have any replays of this (or other good) player doing this?
Didn't he say that he´ll make the next episode about this replay?
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On August 27 2010 12:19 dcemuser wrote:
Did everyone posting in the last page or two miss the ZvZ section he JUST did on 8/12/2010?!
It was 35 minutes of ALL zerg. He talked about the early game, the transition into mid-game, and how 10/10 builds are drastically different from 14/14 builds, and stuff like that. It was extremely informative to zergs.
How ZvZ openings have anything to do with ZvT is beyond me but obviously not you
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Can someone help me? I am having a lot of trouble in TvZ. As Terran I would not have been able to do what Marrow did. In my experience, the zerg player would have just broken their rocks, or ran past me with lings and just killed my expo or main. I have a hard time dealing with speedlings or baneling busts followed by speedlings. I am usually held to 1 base and have trouble securing my expansion. How would Marrow handle it if Idra just ran past his reapers and hit his mineral line? I am platinum currently and having trouble getting better. This being one case.
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