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DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
August 22 2009 00:40 GMT
#81
In an interview with Chris he said that (at the time) they had not decided which way to go with names. One idea they seemed to be leaning towards was that your in game name does not nessessarily have to be unique. So If 10,000 people want to be called 'Merlin' (that was his example) they can.

This leads me to believe they have been considering the Steam method of allowing anyone to be called anything and change their name whenever they want.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
August 22 2009 00:41 GMT
#82
Good Decision.

Smurfing and hacking are the two worse problems on a ladder.
#1 Terran hater
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
August 22 2009 00:43 GMT
#83
A iCCup thing will happen.
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
August 22 2009 00:46 GMT
#84
Great idea, I like it a lot. No more smurfing.
Revabug
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom147 Posts
August 22 2009 00:48 GMT
#85
Smurfing is a really fun part of iCCup.. look at how much discussion it generates in the who is who thread.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
August 22 2009 00:50 GMT
#86
On August 22 2009 08:06 sushiman wrote:
It's just pathetic how people complain about smurfing. If you want to play someone seriously, you should always give it your all, no matter stats, names or whatever. Allowing only one name is stupid beyond belief; what if I suddenly decide my name is no good? What if I want to be part of a small clan on the side of my main account, or just play some teamgames with my friends with a common theme for our names?
I can think of NO valid reason to why they'd limit it to one account per game. None whatsoever.


So they can charge people $10 to change their account name. Valid reason? maybe for blizzard.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 22 2009 00:50 GMT
#87
On August 22 2009 09:41 Highways wrote:
Good Decision.

Smurfing and hacking are the two worse problems on a ladder.

smurfing
Gaming term: Entering your regular server under a different name so u can see whats going on without being recognized.



Smurfing has NOTHING to do with beating up on weaker opponents - _-
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-22 00:55:24
August 22 2009 00:55 GMT
#88
On August 22 2009 09:41 Highways wrote:
Good Decision.

Smurfing and hacking are the two worse problems on a ladder.

this
really good move by blizzard. I really don't see why people have a problem with this..
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 22 2009 01:03 GMT
#89
On August 22 2009 09:55 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 09:41 Highways wrote:
Good Decision.

Smurfing and hacking are the two worse problems on a ladder.

this
really good move by blizzard. I really don't see why people have a problem with this..


Because the people who want to smurf can't smurf anymore and it makes them sad panda's.
When I think of something else, something will go here
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
August 22 2009 01:21 GMT
#90
I'm not a huge fan of this at all.

- I want to change my ID sometimes.
- I want to play fun random team games doing crazy things without lowering my esteem on my main account.
- Sometimes you have RL friends that annoy you to no end on the game, I need to get away. Once they see me sign on and off the messages/calls start rolling in. x.x
- Winning % is important, most people want to maintain that so they are still wanted in clans/AT games/playing good opponents in a custom game. But they still want to have their fun doing silly things from time to time.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
August 22 2009 01:23 GMT
#91
ReS, you'll still be able to change your name, it will just be linked to your account.
♞
ManWithCheese
Profile Joined July 2007
Canada246 Posts
August 22 2009 01:24 GMT
#92
On August 22 2009 10:21 ReS wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of this at all.

- I want to change my ID sometimes.
- I want to play fun random team games doing crazy things without lowering my esteem on my main account.
- Sometimes you have RL friends that annoy you to no end on the game, I need to get away. Once they see me sign on and off the messages/calls start rolling in. x.x
- Winning % is important, most people want to maintain that so they are still wanted in clans/AT games/playing good opponents in a custom game. But they still want to have their fun doing silly things from time to time.


Its a good thing that games can only be played on ladder and there aren't any custom games to fuck around in.
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
August 22 2009 01:26 GMT
#93
On August 22 2009 10:23 Chuiu wrote:
ReS, you'll still be able to change your name, it will just be linked to your account.


Nice.
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-22 01:31:33
August 22 2009 01:26 GMT
#94
On August 22 2009 08:41 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:39 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:32 blade55555 wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:30 Koof wrote:
I would rather not have smurfs in SC2, in any form. If you're that prideful about having a totally clean account with wins only, I guess it would be worth it to you to buy that many copies of Starcraft 2.


Agreed with you 100%. So far the arguments to why its bad are pretty bad because its really not hard to play unrated for the problems people are saying like trying a new race or strategy don't see how its hard to play unrated but ok then ^^.

1) Privacy. Sometimes you even want privacy from your FRIENDS.

2) Being stuck with the same ID you made when you were 10, 10 years later. No thank you.

3) Not wanting to play Zerg on ladder when you are A rank Protoss but C rank Zerg (this is solved by them having 1 rating for each race).

There is NO REASON why you wouldn't allow people to make multiple IDs - just tie them all to a single Battle.net account, and rate them based on that.

2. If it really bothers you buy a new account or pick a name you know you will like ^^.

So your argument is to go into the future and ask yourself what username you'd like, or fork over $60 just for a damn name? I don't know about you, but not everyone is rich enough to throw $60 down for a trivial reason, for something that SHOULD be free, and I don't know many people with a time machine.

EDIT: Even if you are able to change your name, it would be a hassle to change it constantly. Personally, I have two accounts on iCCup. One is for my friends, my identity. One is a relatively anonymous one for mass gaming. Losses don't matter, rank doesn't matter. It is just a gaming account. It allows me to experiment with builds, do things I wouldn't normally do without practice so that I can play on my ranked account better.

Playing unranked games is a HORRIBLE idea because there is no guarantee that your opponent will play his best. You can't exclusively play friends for practice games. Sometimes you want a stranger playing his hardest so you can learn, practice, and improve.
This would be really easy to solve by Blizzard. One master account, infinite usernames. I don't see a logical reason against it.
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
August 22 2009 01:30 GMT
#95
On August 22 2009 09:35 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 09:30 Plexa wrote:
*sigh*
Another bad move by Blizzard...

I don't think smurfing was actually that bad of a problem in SC1 ;;


Its pretty bad... Once you get to the c level I heard its not bad but at the D-, D, D+ level half the players you play are smurfs. And no i'm not saying it because I lost when you see a guy join 100% win, 250+ apm and rapes you is definitely a smurf. If your C well that's why you don't think its that bad.

Great move by blizzard


No its not bad, its just you being completely new to SC and not being aware of (in "our" terms) bad players (meaning D level) being just a lot better than totally new people. You cant just take the skill level of a game which is 11 fucking years old and then try to base a new environment on this. Its just not working and it wont. Seriously, fuck Blizzard.
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
August 22 2009 01:30 GMT
#96
i dont think its TOO big of a deal
a mistake yes, but not the end of the world
it will mostly be an issue for famous players
more weight
Tyraz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
New Zealand310 Posts
August 22 2009 01:40 GMT
#97
Meh, i think this decision will [i]encourage[\n] piracy rather than discourage it. Like when you wanna have some laughs you smirf B.Net instead of ICup. If they don't have multiple accounts for one CD Key (even if you can only log onto B.Net for one at a time), then that is a serious motivation for people to use alternatives.

They said they want to make sure B.Net is good enough that its a compelling reason to stay on it.
Well this is just ONE compelling reason not to stay on it ALL the time.
Its not difficult to imagine a pirate server for kicks and giggles with randoms; and then it will get more sophisticated with user tracking; and before you know it, you have only pro's who wanna smirf on a pirate server and no noobie kids from B.Net!

Its obviously not difficult to see where this is going.

This is a really blind decision from Blizzard. Their decision is probably based on the fact they want people who start playing on B.Net to be gently played pushed into it; however I don't think they have measured the implications from the high level players perspective.

However, this being said, I don't think it will be tooooo bad if they have a different rating for each race.
100% Pure.
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
August 22 2009 01:59 GMT
#98
I actually really like this decision
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-22 02:08:57
August 22 2009 02:05 GMT
#99
On August 22 2009 09:50 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 09:41 Highways wrote:
Good Decision.

Smurfing and hacking are the two worse problems on a ladder.

Show nested quote +
smurfing
Gaming term: Entering your regular server under a different name so u can see whats going on without being recognized.



Smurfing has NOTHING to do with beating up on weaker opponents - _-


Frankly, if it stops people trying to stomp noobs at the beginning of the ladder I more than welcome this change.

Edit:
i dont think its TOO big of a deal
a mistake yes, but not the end of the world
it will mostly be an issue for famous players


Indeed, I think that maybe 1-2% of the SC2 install base will have a problem with this because of ''e-popularity''. And you can make private games to practice your off-races.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
whyohwhy
Profile Joined June 2009
60 Posts
August 22 2009 02:12 GMT
#100
On August 22 2009 08:16 Captain Peabody wrote:
Actually, this won't be a problem; you can only talk to your friends, and friend requests will have to be manually approved by the person themselves. So no Jaedong-harassing...


This has already been addressed. Imagine the number of approval requests flooding Jaedongs account? Either there's an "ignore all" option, or shit's going to go down yo.
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