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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3134 Posts
August 21 2009 23:19 GMT
#21
That is, Jaedong will be Jaedong on Battle.net...and he can get on and chat to Stork and Bisu whenever they're online, and see when Stork's playing WoW. But no one else can talk to him, harass him, etc...unless he manually approves their request to be his friend.

So like Facebook, where famous people are online, but no one's spamming their pages with requests to marry them or something...
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Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
August 21 2009 23:19 GMT
#22
I remember in the warcraft 3 trial they let you choose watever nick name you wanted when u entered battle.net. It is the same thing on steam.

So you enter battle.net, choose a nickname (this way you can smurf) and all your achievements or what not will be recorded under your email...

Its like steam... I just hope there isnt a seperate program called "Battle.net"... that would suck more.
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
August 21 2009 23:20 GMT
#23
stupid idea.
ya had ya shot kid!
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5823 Posts
August 21 2009 23:28 GMT
#24
On August 22 2009 08:14 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:10 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:01 blade55555 wrote:
On August 22 2009 07:57 maybenexttime wrote:
Pathetic.

It's already been discussed to death. IDIOTIC decision. What if I want to learn a new race? What if my brother wants to play? What if I want to learn a new strategy? What if I simply want to mess around? FUCK THAT.


How is it idiotic? Great Decision by Blizzard. I remember when I used to be against this 1 account per cd key but aoe3 did it and it worked out splendid. Smurfing = down. You want to learn a new race? Play unrated. Your brother wants to play? Have him play on your account or buy his own. Want to learn a new strategy? Why play unrated!. Why do you need a new account to test strategies when you can do unrated eh? Or are you one of those smurfs who just loves to rape lower ranked players?

I dont think you understand how much this will fuck up progamers. Maybe from a newbie D- point of view its fine, but when your a player like nada or boxer or even jainfei your going to get harrassed to shit from people wanting to play you, or even people wanting to just bother the shit out of you because they dont like you.

With that said, I dont think they will actually go through with this. At least I believe they will have some system in place to avoid harassment/allow anonymity.


There is an ignore button I am confident it wont' be as big a deal as your making it out to be.

I get unrated games on the first starcraft fast I don't see why it will be any different in sc2.

As for the aoe3 yes people complained but it wasn't a big deal after everyone played on it and crap complaining went down and nobody cared. But of course you guys will complain your probably one of the c-b fag players who can't beat your own rank so you smurf to feel good about yourself. Blizzard made a good decision and you can hate it all you want they won't change it


You're dense... BW does not have the the automated match-making WC3 does. The VAST majority of competitive games on WC3 are played on the ladder - it's way easier than hosting custom games. SC2 will be not unlike WC3 in that regard...

If someone's not liking that once in a while he gets to play with a better player, maybe he should stick to UMS games or play on the casual ladder for newbies. T___T
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
August 21 2009 23:29 GMT
#25
I think this decision is fine.

While we lose some minor conveniences from having only 1 account for ranked play, I'd say the benefit of deterring newb-bashing is greater.

Besides, this is comparable to how (afaik) XBL and PSN allow you to have only 1 account for online play (unless you want to pay for more).

Lastly, there's not much point in saying "but programers will be harassed!" as if this feature is being added to the current Bnet. I expect in Bnet 2.0 they'll add privacy options to prevent that kind of harassment, such as ignoring specific users, ignoring all users except your friends, and maybe appearing logged-out to anyone who's not your friend, etc.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 23:31:18
August 21 2009 23:30 GMT
#26
On August 22 2009 08:28 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:14 blade55555 wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:10 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:01 blade55555 wrote:
On August 22 2009 07:57 maybenexttime wrote:
Pathetic.

It's already been discussed to death. IDIOTIC decision. What if I want to learn a new race? What if my brother wants to play? What if I want to learn a new strategy? What if I simply want to mess around? FUCK THAT.


How is it idiotic? Great Decision by Blizzard. I remember when I used to be against this 1 account per cd key but aoe3 did it and it worked out splendid. Smurfing = down. You want to learn a new race? Play unrated. Your brother wants to play? Have him play on your account or buy his own. Want to learn a new strategy? Why play unrated!. Why do you need a new account to test strategies when you can do unrated eh? Or are you one of those smurfs who just loves to rape lower ranked players?

I dont think you understand how much this will fuck up progamers. Maybe from a newbie D- point of view its fine, but when your a player like nada or boxer or even jainfei your going to get harrassed to shit from people wanting to play you, or even people wanting to just bother the shit out of you because they dont like you.

With that said, I dont think they will actually go through with this. At least I believe they will have some system in place to avoid harassment/allow anonymity.


There is an ignore button I am confident it wont' be as big a deal as your making it out to be.

I get unrated games on the first starcraft fast I don't see why it will be any different in sc2.

As for the aoe3 yes people complained but it wasn't a big deal after everyone played on it and crap complaining went down and nobody cared. But of course you guys will complain your probably one of the c-b fag players who can't beat your own rank so you smurf to feel good about yourself. Blizzard made a good decision and you can hate it all you want they won't change it


You're dense... BW does not have the the automated match-making WC3 does. The VAST majority of competitive games on WC3 are played on the ladder - it's way easier than hosting custom games. SC2 will be not unlike WC3 in that regard...

If someone's not liking that once in a while he gets to play with a better player, maybe he should stick to UMS games or play on the casual ladder for newbies. T___T


lol I have to say that was a funny read

You need an open mind not a closed one otherwise everything blizzard does will be bad to people like you which is not good when its actually good :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
Koof
Profile Joined June 2008
United States66 Posts
August 21 2009 23:30 GMT
#27
I would rather not have smurfs in SC2, in any form. If you're that prideful about having a totally clean account with wins only, I guess it would be worth it to you to buy that many copies of Starcraft 2.
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
August 21 2009 23:31 GMT
#28
On August 22 2009 08:16 Captain Peabody wrote:
Show nested quote +
Find all progamer accounts AND MASS ADD THEM!


Actually, this won't be a problem; you can only talk to your friends, and friend requests will have to be manually approved by the person themselves. So no Jaedong-harassing...

(This is something fine to discuss, but please...no hysteria! The panel is ongoing; don't assume stupid stuff and then get mad about it. Wait until you know something before assuming the worst.)



Ah, but think of how many "friend requests" good ol' Dongo is going to get per day when his tag is public. Methinks many.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 23:34:26
August 21 2009 23:31 GMT
#29
I thought they said your ranking was tied to your Battle.net account, but you can have multiple IDs (ranked the same as your main Bnet account)?

If not...
On August 22 2009 08:30 Koof wrote:
I would rather not have smurfs in SC2, in any form. If you're that prideful about having a totally clean account with wins only, I guess it would be worth it to you to buy that many copies of Starcraft 2.

Smurfing is NOT sandbagging. It has NOTHING to do with stats.

Do you know what the first account I created for SC was? Archmage_Fenix. I was 12.
Being stuck with that for 8 years would have sucked balls.

Second - privacy. Sometimes, you want to play alone, you don't want to talk to the people on your flist - you just want to relax.

Fuck the cry-babies. Fuck them all.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 21 2009 23:32 GMT
#30
On August 22 2009 08:30 Koof wrote:
I would rather not have smurfs in SC2, in any form. If you're that prideful about having a totally clean account with wins only, I guess it would be worth it to you to buy that many copies of Starcraft 2.


Agreed with you 100%. So far the arguments to why its bad are pretty bad because its really not hard to play unrated for the problems people are saying like trying a new race or strategy don't see how its hard to play unrated but ok then ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
August 21 2009 23:32 GMT
#31
What about clan tags? Say you changed clans or something, will you be able to change your name at least? >.>
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 21 2009 23:33 GMT
#32
they can't be serious

Worse decision ever!!!
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 21 2009 23:34 GMT
#33
On August 22 2009 08:32 dhe95 wrote:
What about clan tags? Say you changed clans or something, will you be able to change your name at least? >.>


This is my only concern. What AoE3 did was you could create your clan on the server and when creating it (when you logged on to eso2). You put your clan name, then the tags. The tags would go next to your name and if you left the clan it would go away. I am hoping Blizzard does the same thing.
When I think of something else, something will go here
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 21 2009 23:35 GMT
#34
I'm fine with it..
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mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 21 2009 23:37 GMT
#35
Once again I think we are back to the point where it's wait and see -____-. Speculation is fun for only so long. Clan tags and name changing seems like something they would have put alot of thought into right?
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 23:40:14
August 21 2009 23:39 GMT
#36
On August 22 2009 08:32 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:30 Koof wrote:
I would rather not have smurfs in SC2, in any form. If you're that prideful about having a totally clean account with wins only, I guess it would be worth it to you to buy that many copies of Starcraft 2.


Agreed with you 100%. So far the arguments to why its bad are pretty bad because its really not hard to play unrated for the problems people are saying like trying a new race or strategy don't see how its hard to play unrated but ok then ^^.

1) Privacy. Sometimes you even want privacy from your FRIENDS.

2) Being stuck with the same ID you made when you were 10, 10 years later. No thank you.

3) Not wanting to play Zerg on ladder when you are A rank Protoss but C rank Zerg (this is solved by them having 1 rating for each race).

There is NO REASON why you wouldn't allow people to make multiple IDs - just tie them all to a single Battle.net account, and rate them based on that.

On August 22 2009 08:37 mrgerry wrote:
Once again I think we are back to the point where it's wait and see -____-. Speculation is fun for only so long. Clan tags and name changing seems like something they would have put alot of thought into right?


In WC3, you have a seperate Clan name in your profile. However people still make new IDs for new clans I think, since the clan name isn't visible apart from when you are in a channel/profile (I THINK).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
August 21 2009 23:40 GMT
#37
Renaming yourself is SO going to be a microtransaction.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
August 21 2009 23:40 GMT
#38
On August 22 2009 07:57 maybenexttime wrote:
What if I want to learn a new race? [...] What if I want to learn a new strategy?

You still have good options:
- play unrated matches
- play with your friends
- ask for games in an appropriate channel
- ask for games on TLnet or another forum
- man-up, play rated matches, and take the stats hit (after all, I thought only newbies cared about their record? )
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 23:41:43
August 21 2009 23:40 GMT
#39
On August 22 2009 08:40 L wrote:
Renaming yourself is SO going to be a microtransaction.

Fuck my life.
On August 22 2009 08:40 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 07:57 maybenexttime wrote:
What if I want to learn a new race? [...] What if I want to learn a new strategy?

You still have good options:
- play unrated matches
- play with your friends
- ask for games in an appropriate channel
- ask for games on TLnet or another forum
- man-up, play rated matches, and take the stats hit (after all, I thought only newbies cared about their record? )

Inferior options to just allowing people to create new IDs. Or, having 1 seperate rating for each of your races (ie my protoss is ELO 2000, my Terran is ELO 1800, my Zergo is ELO 900).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 21 2009 23:41 GMT
#40
On August 22 2009 08:39 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:32 blade55555 wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:30 Koof wrote:
I would rather not have smurfs in SC2, in any form. If you're that prideful about having a totally clean account with wins only, I guess it would be worth it to you to buy that many copies of Starcraft 2.


Agreed with you 100%. So far the arguments to why its bad are pretty bad because its really not hard to play unrated for the problems people are saying like trying a new race or strategy don't see how its hard to play unrated but ok then ^^.

1) Privacy. Sometimes you even want privacy from your FRIENDS.

2) Being stuck with the same ID you made when you were 10, 10 years later. No thank you.

3) Not wanting to play Zerg on ladder when you are A rank Protoss but C rank Zerg (this is solved by them having 1 rating for each race).

There is NO REASON why you wouldn't allow people to make multiple IDs - just tie them all to a single Battle.net account, and rate them based on that.



1. There will be a privacy option if not will blizzard isn't thinking straight.

2. If it really bothers you buy a new account or pick a name you know you will like ^^.

3. Unrated?

4. If you can make a new name if you keep the stats then that's fine with me as long as you keep the stats so that you can't smurf.
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