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On August 22 2009 08:40 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 08:40 L wrote:
Renaming yourself is SO going to be a microtransaction. Fuck my life. Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 08:40 Bill307 wrote:On August 22 2009 07:57 maybenexttime wrote:
What if I want to learn a new race? [...] What if I want to learn a new strategy? You still have good options: - play unrated matches - play with your friends - ask for games in an appropriate channel - ask for games on TLnet or another forum - man-up, play rated matches, and take the stats hit (after all, I thought only newbies cared about their record?  ) Inferior options to just allowing people to create new IDs. Or, having 1 seperate rating for each of your races (ie my protoss is ELO 2000, my Terran is ELO 1800, my Zergo is ELO 900). I think some of these could be some really good questions for the August Q&A submission 
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Do you know what the first account I created for SC was? Archmage_Fenix. I was 12.
Being stuck with that for 8 years would have sucked balls.
Second - privacy. Sometimes, you want to play alone, you don't want to talk to the people on your flist - you just want to relax.
They talked a lot about "Real Life" identification as a big feature of your Battle.net account...so that probably won't be that big of a deal (since your friends will be able to identify you anyway). In any event, I have no doubt that name changes will be available--maybe for a fee, like WoW, though.
As for the second issue; you don't have to talk to your friends if you don't want to...just ignore them, and they'll go away! Works every time...:D
(And they also talked about privacy and parental controls; not quite sure what that entails, though...)
Ah, but think of how many "friend requests" good ol' Dongo is going to get per day when his tag is public. Methinks many.
What is it they say? The price of fame...
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On August 22 2009 08:31 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I thought they said your ranking was tied to your Battle.net account, but you can have multiple IDs (ranked the same as your main Bnet account)?
If not...
I understood this too. Ok you have only one battle.net account but are you sure you can have only one ID ?
Smurfing is NOT sandbagging. It has NOTHING to do with stats.
Do you know what the first account I created for SC was? Archmage_Fenix. I was 12.
Being stuck with that for 8 years would have sucked balls.
Second - privacy. Sometimes, you want to play alone, you don't want to talk to the people on your flist - you just want to relax.
Fuck the cry-babies. Fuck them all.
They spoke about "privacy" and other thing. I believe you can probably appear "offline" even if you are online (or say, I'm online for this group of friends, but offline for the others). Or maybe something like that.
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who wants to buy my unused battle.net 2.0 account? ^^
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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 22 2009 08:43 Integra wrote:
I think its awesome.
Why?
You realize it has 0 positive effects that couldn't be achieved by just tieing all your IDs to one "master account"?
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I think lots of people are missing the point. Blizzard's goal is to help more casual players get better at the game and enjoy it more, and become more serious players a la TL. Discouraging smurfing is one way to catalyze that.
Don't you want a larger competitive StarCraft community?
Blizzard will cater to the needs of progamers, which are likely similar to the wants of TL players, so I suggest everyone just relax and wait for the final product.
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On August 22 2009 08:39 FrozenArbiter wrote:
1) Privacy. Sometimes you even want privacy from your FRIENDS.
No reason they can't add an "Appear Offline (to everyone)" option, akin to instant messengers.
Though I don't see any problems with allowing multiple IDs tied to the same rating (and ignore lists, so people have to ignore you only once).
Rating each race separately (possibly including Random as its own race) also sounds like a very good idea that they should definitely add.
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I'm utterly convinced that the majority on this board will complain about everything new. I have yet to see something that was new that wasn't really complained about, by the majority. This isn't SC1, this is SC2. Stop trying to transpose SC2 features to SC1 it doesn't work. SC2 is a whole new game.
It's just like FFXI folks on BG who transpose new FFXIV features onto FFXI like the 10 active abilities.
SC1 =/= SC2
Open-minds people. This all ready worked very well for ESO (AoE III).
As to address FA:
1 - Anonymous (Just like MSN)
2- Buy a new game, I'm sure 10 years later 10$ won't hurt. Surely you can afford 10$ every 10 years?
3 - You solved that yourself
I guess all the smurfs are getting butt-hurt. Oh well, continue on. I for one am ecstatic. This is just like FFXI and ESO where the community is much tighter than if you could change your name at a notice. This means reputation actually means something or be prepared to be exiled. This has a side effect of usually keeping peoples attitudes in check. (I deplore smurfing)
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On August 22 2009 08:44 FrozenArbiter wrote:Why? You realize it has 0 positive effects that couldn't be achieved by just tieing all your IDs to one "master account"?
Do you realize that they spent the entire Battle.net discussion about what the positive efffects were?
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Guys are you sure your battle.net account isnt just the thing you log into at the battle.net website
It's not the game id you use
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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 22 2009 08:45 0neder wrote:
I think lots of people are missing the point. Blizzard's goal is to help more casual players get better at the game and enjoy it more, and become more serious players a la TL. Discouraging smurfing is one way to catalyze that.
Don't you want a larger competitive StarCraft community?
Blizzard will cater to the needs of progamers, which are likely similar to the wants of TL players, so I suggest everyone just relax and wait for the final product.
But smurfing ONLY means playing on a "secret" account. Look, if I smurf (which I have done many, many times) it's mostly because I just don't want to play on my main account.
Back on PGTour I was smurfing. My account was A+ (jinro).
SANDBAGGING (creating a new account to beat on bad players) is solved by tieing your RANKING to a master account.
IE: Master account: FrozenArbiter at asdf.com (not a real email btwwwwww).
Bnet IDs:
Dream.t)PltO
number9dream
jinro
(you can make a limit of like 3 if you want, then if you want to make more you have to delete an old one).
All of these accounts would have their rating be the same - if I win 5 games with Dream.t)PltO, I won't get 5 wins on number9dream but my ELL (expected ladder level, which is what decides who you play in the Automated Match Maker) would change.
On August 22 2009 08:48 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 08:44 FrozenArbiter wrote:On August 22 2009 08:43 Integra wrote:
I think its awesome. Why? You realize it has 0 positive effects that couldn't be achieved by just tieing all your IDs to one "master account"? Do you realize that they spent the entire Battle.net discussion about what the positive efffects were?
If so, I did not hear them. Repeat one of them for me plz (I am serious, I do not remember hearing anything that I thought was good about this, but it could be because the stream was lagging like crazy for me so I only catched 25% of what they said about smurfing and had to rely on people repeating it to me).
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On August 22 2009 08:47 Aegraen wrote:
I'm utterly convinced that the majority on this board will complain about everything new. I have yet to see something that was new that wasn't really complained about, by the majority. This isn't SC1, this is SC2. Stop trying to transpose SC2 features to SC1 it doesn't work. SC2 is a whole new game.
It's just like FFXI folks on BG who transpose new FFXIV features onto FFXI like the 10 active abilities.
SC1 =/= SC2
Open-minds people. This all ready worked very well for ESO (AoE III).
As to address FA:
1 - Anonymous (Just like MSN)
2- Buy a new game, I'm sure 10 years later 10$ won't hurt. Surely you can afford 10$ every 10 years?
3 - You solved that yourself
I guess all the smurfs are getting butt-hurt. Oh well, continue on. I for one am ecstatic. This is just like FFXI and ESO where the community is much tighter than if you could change your name at a notice. This means reputation actually means something or be prepared to be exiled. This has a side effect of usually keeping peoples attitudes in check. (I deplore smurfing)
Me too. Glad to see someone who has the same views as me. It worked fine for aoe3 no problems at all was not sure at first but it really was fine. Pick a username you like and your fine. I was hoping blizzard would do this now no more gay smurfs who can't play their own rank .
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What is wrong with smurfing though. Sure, noobs get owned, but if this disencourages them then they were probably never going to get good anyway. This system is protecting scrubs, and hurting everyone else.
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On August 22 2009 08:51 Lurgee wrote:
What is wrong with smurfing though. Sure, noobs get owned, but if this disencourages them then they were probably never going to get good anyway. This system is protecting scrubs, and hurting everyone else.
How does it hurt everyone else? Because they can't beat their own rank they want to smurf lower ranked players to make themselves feel good? Oh well if they really have to smurf buy a new game. Really I dont' see how this hurts everyone else at all ^^.
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On August 22 2009 08:31 FrozenArbiter wrote:I thought they said your ranking was tied to your Battle.net account, but you can have multiple IDs (ranked the same as your main Bnet account)? If not... Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 08:30 Koof wrote:
I would rather not have smurfs in SC2, in any form. If you're that prideful about having a totally clean account with wins only, I guess it would be worth it to you to buy that many copies of Starcraft 2. Smurfing is NOT sandbagging. It has NOTHING to do with stats. Do you know what the first account I created for SC was? Archmage_Fenix. I was 12. Being stuck with that for 8 years would have sucked balls. Second - privacy. Sometimes, you want to play alone, you don't want to talk to the people on your flist - you just want to relax. Fuck the cry-babies. Fuck them all.
If WoW is any indication, I'm sure there will be a service to change your name. Infact, since the game is tied to your email, not your login, I can infer that you might actually just change your name as much as you want but the stats stick with you.
As far as privacy goes, they talked about in the panel that there are a plethora of features to hide you from the public.
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they should have added a hidden rating system combined with normal rating AND with a max 3 accounts, that's just my opinion. They could have done a lot better and it's kind of dissapointing that a non competitive game like WoW has a better ladder system than sc2 atm.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 22 2009 08:47 Aegraen wrote:
I'm utterly convinced that the majority on this board will complain about everything new. I have yet to see something that was new that wasn't really complained about, by the majority. This isn't SC1, this is SC2. Stop trying to transpose SC2 features to SC1 it doesn't work. SC2 is a whole new game.
It's just like FFXI folks on BG who transpose new FFXIV features onto FFXI like the 10 active abilities.
SC1 =/= SC2
Open-minds people. This all ready worked very well for ESO (AoE III).
As to address FA:
1 - Anonymous (Just like MSN)
2- Buy a new game, I'm sure 10 years later 10$ won't hurt. Surely you can afford 10$ every 10 years?
3 - You solved that yourself
I guess all the smurfs are getting butt-hurt. Oh well, continue on. I for one am ecstatic. This is just like FFXI and ESO where the community is much tighter than if you could change your name at a notice. This means reputation actually means something or be prepared to be exiled. This has a side effect of usually keeping peoples attitudes in check. (I deplore smurfing)
First good effect of this I have heard.
I could actually live with having your master account visible on all your "smurfs". Not ideal, but at least you wont be stuck with an ID you don't like, or be unable to add a clan tag to your name.
On August 22 2009 08:50 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 08:47 Aegraen wrote:
I'm utterly convinced that the majority on this board will complain about everything new. I have yet to see something that was new that wasn't really complained about, by the majority. This isn't SC1, this is SC2. Stop trying to transpose SC2 features to SC1 it doesn't work. SC2 is a whole new game.
It's just like FFXI folks on BG who transpose new FFXIV features onto FFXI like the 10 active abilities.
SC1 =/= SC2
Open-minds people. This all ready worked very well for ESO (AoE III).
As to address FA:
1 - Anonymous (Just like MSN)
2- Buy a new game, I'm sure 10 years later 10$ won't hurt. Surely you can afford 10$ every 10 years?
3 - You solved that yourself
I guess all the smurfs are getting butt-hurt. Oh well, continue on. I for one am ecstatic. This is just like FFXI and ESO where the community is much tighter than if you could change your name at a notice. This means reputation actually means something or be prepared to be exiled. This has a side effect of usually keeping peoples attitudes in check. (I deplore smurfing) Me too. Glad to see someone who has the same views as me. It worked fine for aoe3 no problems at all was not sure at first but it really was fine. Pick a username you like and your fine. I was hoping blizzard would do this now no more gay smurfs who can't play their own rank .
God, you have no idea how much I agonize everytime I have to create an account -_____-
And that's when I can create a new one if I'm not happy! I'm gonna have a aneurysm over this shit man.
Keep FrozenArbiter?
Jinro? (my PGTour ID)
Okami? (lovely name IMO)
TianYuan? (my Go ID)
number9dream? (common ID I use)
Dream.t)PltO? (my West ID)
God.
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On August 22 2009 08:50 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 08:47 Aegraen wrote:
I'm utterly convinced that the majority on this board will complain about everything new. I have yet to see something that was new that wasn't really complained about, by the majority. This isn't SC1, this is SC2. Stop trying to transpose SC2 features to SC1 it doesn't work. SC2 is a whole new game.
It's just like FFXI folks on BG who transpose new FFXIV features onto FFXI like the 10 active abilities.
SC1 =/= SC2
Open-minds people. This all ready worked very well for ESO (AoE III).
As to address FA:
1 - Anonymous (Just like MSN)
2- Buy a new game, I'm sure 10 years later 10$ won't hurt. Surely you can afford 10$ every 10 years?
3 - You solved that yourself
I guess all the smurfs are getting butt-hurt. Oh well, continue on. I for one am ecstatic. This is just like FFXI and ESO where the community is much tighter than if you could change your name at a notice. This means reputation actually means something or be prepared to be exiled. This has a side effect of usually keeping peoples attitudes in check. (I deplore smurfing) Me too. Glad to see someone who has the same views as me. It worked fine for aoe3 no problems at all was not sure at first but it really was fine. Pick a username you like and your fine. I was hoping blizzard would do this now no more gay smurfs who can't play their own rank .
Yup, this is probably the most important feature of BattleNet, in fact The Structure of BattleNet seems to be based around it.
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On August 22 2009 08:51 Lurgee wrote:
What is wrong with smurfing though. Sure, noobs get owned, but if this disencourages them then they were probably never going to get good anyway. This system is protecting scrubs, and hurting everyone else. I would rather noobs get good at the game and recognize Starcraft for what it is, rather than them dropping the game all together. I don't see why everyone is so against trying to get people into intermediate play.
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