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Hattori_Hanzo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore1229 Posts
February 09 2013 07:45 GMT
#41
HotS plays similar to SC:BW, each race has a surgical strike early game (<8min) BO:
T) Vulture/spider mine run by / hellbat drops
P) Reaver/shuttle play / Oracle/phoneix harass
Z) lurker play / muta or fast 3rd or 6 pool

I'm happy.
Cauterize the area
Rowrin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States280 Posts
February 09 2013 08:08 GMT
#42
Drop play and 7-8 minute harass is just more potent across the board so I dont see why people are qq'ing about a particular one. Hellbat-drops/oracles/dts/whatever are all equally potent atm so I'm not sure anyone can argue that either are imbalance (with overlord speed on hatchery now I wonder if we'll see more zerg drops). I suppose however, that the case could be made that none of these should be this effective. IMO however, in Wings the meta game was waaaaaay to passive before 3rd base so having more early game engagements is pretty nice.

I believe that most of the balance complaints I see are mainly the result of a new meta game in HoTS that people aren't aquainted to.
SolidZeal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States393 Posts
February 09 2013 08:09 GMT
#43
I don't have the beta, and don't play too often anymore really, but as a spectator I'm really excited. HotS has been really enjoyable to watch on husky's and HD's channels. For all the complaints I've heard about balance I've also seen games where "OP" strategies and tactics have been shut down, and the better player won. I'm excited to watch MLG or GSL with HotS.
In the clearing stands a boxer and a figher by his trade
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
February 10 2013 06:26 GMT
#44
12 days with nothing to do. Oh well at least the release is finally nearing. Guess I'll watch all the old episodes of Top Gear lol
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
February 10 2013 07:16 GMT
#45
Well that's very bad news.

I couldn't care less about balance, and it's sad that this is what people are complaining about. But units like the Oracle, and mines, or abilities like fungal, need a re-design.
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
February 10 2013 09:26 GMT
#46
so 2-3 more balance patches, no more big changes
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
February 10 2013 16:43 GMT
#47
12 days should be enough to finish some of my unplayed Steam games. I probably have about 50 games in there that I've never opened-- maybe I'll give the Witcher series or Skyrim a try. Although I'd prefer to keep playing HOTS :/
"See you space cowboy"
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
February 10 2013 17:23 GMT
#48
Epic news since it has said "season ends 3/1/2013" or something like that in the matchmaking page for months now.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
February 10 2013 17:43 GMT
#49
too bad they barely managed to get anything done during the beta. They were way too conservative with new units and game mechanics, the game hasn't changed enough to warrant the price of entry.. and considering how bad the singleplayer was in WOL, I have no faith in that part of HOTS either. Good thing TL is more or less transitioning into a Dota2 site instead, makes more sense on every level
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
February 10 2013 19:35 GMT
#50
On February 09 2013 02:26 Araneae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 02:22 JonIrenicus wrote:
If they don't fix the lag, I will stay in Wol for a really long time..

The lag is probably because the servers are in America, hopefully it will get better when we get servers in EU^^

edit: ninja toxifly got it before me


Yes, just for further explanation, all Blizzard beta servers are exclusively hosted by them in California, regardless of game.

They don't use their standard Battle.net server providers, possibly due to the sensitive nature of the betas or due to wanting local access to change things faster and tweak things directly.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
February 10 2013 19:37 GMT
#51
On February 10 2013 18:26 summerloud wrote:
so 2-3 more balance patches, no more big changes


2 minor patches tops or one big one. Blizzard doesn't usually do anything in the last month of the beta - this has been seen in D3, WoW expansions, and in SC2 WoL.
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
February 10 2013 19:40 GMT
#52
Is it me or does hots feel much more boring to watch then wol? I can't even watch polt play hots.. Dunno why.. Maybe the maps?
Saumure
Profile Joined February 2012
France404 Posts
February 10 2013 20:36 GMT
#53
On February 11 2013 04:40 Snowbear wrote:
Is it me or does hots feel much more boring to watch then wol? I can't even watch polt play hots.. Dunno why.. Maybe the maps?

I think HotS is way more fun to watch :D There is so much shit the players can do. But maybe thats because there is no real, i.e. solid meta game yet.
I'm just hoping that roaches will be the counter to helions as it is in WoL...
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
February 10 2013 20:39 GMT
#54
Im sad that they wasted their chance to redesign mech around the tank. Mech play is ok or even good/great but its because Hellbats are insane and widow mines used in conjunction with other army units are strong enough to displace other units from being built
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
February 10 2013 23:25 GMT
#55
On February 09 2013 00:13 juicyjames wrote:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7242233/The_Beta_Test_is_coming_to_an_End-08_02_2013
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/8649261/The_Beta_Test_is_coming_to_an_End-2_8_2013

Show nested quote +
We’re pleased to announce that, in preparation for the launch of StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm, the public beta test will close on March 1. We’re incredibly thankful for the feedback and data our testers have produced throughout the beta, and we hope that all testers continue to practice, prepare, and pursue XP levels in the beta through the end of February.

It is important to note that we will continue to operate a private beta test until Heart of the Swarm goes live on March 12. We will be working with our eSports partners to ensure that they are able to feature the new expansion in professional StarCraft II matches after March 1.

Again, our greatest thanks to everyone who has participated in the beta test so far. We’re looking forward to seeing what you do with the Heart of the Swarm beta over its final three weeks!



"It is important to note that we will continue to operate a private beta test until Heart of the Swarm goes live on March 12. We will be working with our eSports partners to ensure that they are able to feature the new expansion in professional StarCraft II matches after March 1."


This is HUGE news. Blizzard is actually helping leagues by supplying them with a beta server. Does this mean they're going to be doing the same for LAN servers at events?!
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Pookie Monster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States303 Posts
February 10 2013 23:27 GMT
#56
On February 09 2013 01:32 CakeSauc3 wrote:
I guess we can expect some major patches once the game is released? Like, TvP mech and more help for Zerg against skytoss? :p


Im beating Grandmaster protosses with Mech and i dont play this game all that much, unless mech is broken at the high grandmaster level i dont know wtf people are talking about.
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DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
February 10 2013 23:30 GMT
#57
On February 11 2013 08:25 hoby2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 00:13 juicyjames wrote:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7242233/The_Beta_Test_is_coming_to_an_End-08_02_2013
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/8649261/The_Beta_Test_is_coming_to_an_End-2_8_2013

We’re pleased to announce that, in preparation for the launch of StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm, the public beta test will close on March 1. We’re incredibly thankful for the feedback and data our testers have produced throughout the beta, and we hope that all testers continue to practice, prepare, and pursue XP levels in the beta through the end of February.

It is important to note that we will continue to operate a private beta test until Heart of the Swarm goes live on March 12. We will be working with our eSports partners to ensure that they are able to feature the new expansion in professional StarCraft II matches after March 1.

Again, our greatest thanks to everyone who has participated in the beta test so far. We’re looking forward to seeing what you do with the Heart of the Swarm beta over its final three weeks!



"It is important to note that we will continue to operate a private beta test until Heart of the Swarm goes live on March 12. We will be working with our eSports partners to ensure that they are able to feature the new expansion in professional StarCraft II matches after March 1."


This is HUGE news. Blizzard is actually helping leagues by supplying them with a beta server. Does this mean they're going to be doing the same for LAN servers at events?!

I think your reading too much into this statement. They are not saying they are developing a private server for tournaments. They are saying that they are still going to be working on the beta in a closed environment until release. Its just so we dont think that when the public beta ends so does work ok tournament features/usability.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
February 10 2013 23:46 GMT
#58
I'm quite surprised they're happy with the balance in hots currently, it seems extremely wonky and very...clumsy
birchman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden393 Posts
February 11 2013 00:44 GMT
#59
More than a week without HotS? I don't know how I'll manage.
Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback.
Xahhk
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada540 Posts
February 11 2013 02:07 GMT
#60
Leaving oracles with 25 damage every .86 seconds is intentional right?
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