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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 14 2012 07:01 Mudkipnick wrote: DTS are already used late game, I don't see why they're encouraging this even more... Because it's awesome! Just like Stargate units, widow mines and super ultras that can maul marines! Everything aweosme all the time!!! | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
On December 14 2012 07:30 Plansix wrote: Because it's awesome! Just like Stargate units, widow mines and super ultras that can maul marines! Everything aweosme all the time!!! This guy gets it | ||
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arcHoniC
United States141 Posts
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Umpteen
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Burrow moved to Hatchery / Evo Chamber. If Terran can have reusable super-banelings with burrow after barracks/factory, I don't see why I shouldn't have plain old burrowed banelings after spawning pool/research. | ||
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unteqair
United States308 Posts
On December 14 2012 05:54 Big J wrote: Blizzard: Hey Protoss players! We know that you don't like playing against mutalisks, so we keep on buffing phoenixes. We know that you hate playing vs Infestors, so we nerf them. We know that you don't like to play against Broodlords, so you get Tempests. We know that roaches are kind of hard to kill if you don't go robo, so we buff the shit out of voidrays. We know you had a hard time harassing in WoL, so we created the Oracle. Protoss: WTF, to do those things I have to do something different then mass robo and gateway units? I think this might be an accurate depiction of the Protoss players who are disappointed in HotS. Really, they won't be happy until they can spam Stalkers from the beginning to the end and run everything over doing minimally anything else. | ||
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People_0f_Color
177 Posts
On December 14 2012 08:10 Umpteen wrote: Between you and me, I have my fingers crossed for one last seismic change: Burrow moved to Hatchery / Evo Chamber. If Terran can have reusable super-banelings with burrow after barracks/factory, I don't see why I shouldn't have plain old burrowed banelings after spawning pool/research. actually this is a great idea. Burrow rushes could be a fun strategy to explore, if only temporarily. | ||
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Umpteen
United Kingdom1570 Posts
On December 14 2012 08:17 People_0f_Color wrote: actually this is a great idea. Burrow rushes could be a fun strategy to explore, if only temporarily. It would be a legit tech-based opening for Zerg - something I think they lack. Everyone can do econ openings, everyone can do army openings, but only P/T can force a response with tech. Burrowed banelings are no stronger offensively than ordinary banelings - less so, because there are 4 fewer banelings. They just do what other tech openings do: sacrifice economy for delaying your opponent's aggression. Also it gives defensive options versus oracles, banshees, drops etc. I really, really hope they at least test it out. | ||
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DemigodcelpH
1138 Posts
On December 14 2012 08:10 Umpteen wrote: Between you and me, I have my fingers crossed for one last seismic change: Burrow moved to Hatchery / Evo Chamber. If Terran can have reusable super-banelings with burrow after barracks/factory, I don't see why I shouldn't have plain old burrowed banelings after spawning pool/research. You really should try to think more critically when you make suggestions — "another race has it so I don't see why my race can't have it" isn't a valid reasoning in asymmetric design. By your reasoning Terran should also have the ability to conveniently insta-remax from their Command Center. I'm not saying your suggestion itself is fundamentally bad, but that your thinking is a bit blind-sided. If you think burrow deserves to be a T1 tech then you need to provide something more insightful other than "he has something I don't". | ||
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gh0un
601 Posts
Just get rid of them already, both units are terrible design wise. | ||
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Firetoss
Germany30 Posts
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sweetbabyjesus
Denmark168 Posts
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1120 Posts
Maybe you could watch out if it happens to you too. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On December 14 2012 09:37 Striker.superfreunde wrote: I played against AI an hour ago, and it happend that one of my carriers "dodged" a seeker missle. I wasn't able to reproduce it, 'cause i don't play Protoss regularly enough, but it could be a very deadly bug, since a seeker missle one shoots a carrier. Maybe you could watch out if it happens to you too. Seeker missiles don't 1 shot carriers - carriers have 450 total HP, the missile does 300 dmg. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
They're repeatedly failing to fix ZvT, and badly mangling ZvP in the process. Just. Make. The. Mine. Shoot. Ground. It's really not that hard. EDIT: Huh, reaver. That was inauspicious. | ||
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On December 14 2012 09:51 Belisarius wrote: Thinking about it more, it's a bit concerning that mutas are receiving a huge stack of buffs in a futile attempt to get them used against Teran's invisible instadeath.... and those buffs instead make them so powerful against protoss that stargate is mandatory. They're repeatedly failing to fix ZvT, and badly mangling ZvP in the process. Just. Make. The. Mine. Shoot. Ground. It's really not that hard. EDIT: Huh, reaver. That was inauspicious. Since people keep talking about it in this thread... Poll: Widow Mine rebalanced to only attack ground? Yes (38) No (19) 57 total votes Your vote: Widow Mine rebalanced to only attack ground? | ||
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1120 Posts
On December 14 2012 09:38 -NegativeZero- wrote: Seeker missiles don't 1 shot carriers - carriers have 450 total HP, the missile does 300 dmg. What have i played than @.@ I have to re-check the replay, probably i was confused because they have 300 hp, but still, if it's reproducable - not good. | ||
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Zahir
United States947 Posts
On December 14 2012 09:58 SarcasmMonster wrote: Since people keep talking about it in this thread... Poll: Widow Mine rebalanced to only attack ground? Yes (38) No (19) 57 total votes Your vote: Widow Mine rebalanced to only attack ground? Widow mines are fairly bad for the game in their present incarnation - the fact that they suck late game is a blessing if anything. An "army" comprised of mines with a bit of mech/bio support ... support for mines!... is a dumb concept to begin with. Maybe if Terran was the race of sacrificial / automated units like its two rivals. It makes far more sense, game wise and thematically, to give Terran a mine-laying unit which also has a decent standalone attack, and make the mines somewhat less effective than they are presently. I just don't like this "unit" at all. A mine is not a unit, dammit. Maybe it's possible to balance it as one, but I doubt it can be done in an interesting way. Edit - if they really wanted to keep mines as a unit and not an ability. Make the mine have one mode to shoot ground and another to shoot air, and have it be visible when in air targetting mode. That would at least make it less effective vs air harass. Then they could reverse that stupid muta regen buff and replace it with, I don't know, moving shot. | ||
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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Dynamitekid
United States55 Posts
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lumencryster
35 Posts
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