EPTIT'S FASTER THAN A STIMMED UNIT.
That's EXTREMELY important, that's the threshold which should make this ability see play. kudos to blizz on that.
Balance Update #7 10/26/12 - Page 6
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
IT'S FASTER THAN A STIMMED UNIT. That's EXTREMELY important, that's the threshold which should make this ability see play. kudos to blizz on that. | ||
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Freeborn
Germany421 Posts
Lets see how it works with chargelots vs bio units | ||
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LOLItsRyann
England551 Posts
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MoonCricket
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:33 a176 wrote: im a bit worried about having a mobile 14 range detector. did blizzard forget about swarm hosts? I'm worried too, because with this change I don't know how it will be possible to open up mech anymore vs Protoss. You previously could make a few mines and there was a nice balance of protoss needing an observer and microing, the Terran drawback being you had to stay defensive. Detection on mothership core probably just killed mech all by itself now that i think about it  | ||
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PimpWilly
United States228 Posts
But the implemented spell will slow down your zealots too, since it affects all ground units... seems like it makes it less useful for early game defense | ||
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Hds
France200 Posts
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:26 LgNKami wrote: woah, if you add oracle+msc in with an immortal bust... its gg. lol. you wont have stim, bunkers will be ripped to shreds vs that pulsar beam+ immortals... I truly dont see that staying in the game like that for long. Either the damage will be nerfed, the amount of mana will be raised, or it will just be taken out of the game. oracle+msc is 400 gas, don't really see that being added with an immortal bust without giving terran a lot more time to prepare. That, and stargates don't exactly build quickly. | ||
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Swish 41
Germany154 Posts
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didden95
Sweden7 Posts
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:41 Plansix wrote: You wanted them to buff other units and not neft the terran ones. This is what happens. They give everyone awesome stuff and then ton it down to just slightly above reasonable levels. Oh no, I still think it's awesome they are taking that route with units and making them powerful. They buffed the mine. They buffed the tempest previous patch as well, and they also buffed the blinding cloud previous patch. Now they've double buffed blinding cloud, and double/triple buffed the tempest, and reverted previous nerfs to the battle hellion (it still has the bio flag on it which is a nerf). Guess they are taking it to the EXTREME yo | ||
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Sent.
Poland9219 Posts
I have question about Tempest: Do people use it in late game pvp or the match up is still suffering from the war of the worlds syndrome? | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6659 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:47 avilo wrote: Oh no, I still think it's awesome they are taking that route with units and making them powerful. They buffed the mine. They buffed the tempest previous patch as well, and they also buffed the blinding cloud previous patch. Now they've double buffed blinding cloud, and double/triple buffed the tempest, and reverted previous nerfs to the battle hellion (it still has the bio flag on it which is a nerf). Guess they are taking it to the EXTREME yo I'm not a terran player so I obviously don't understand the units aswell... but how is the hellion having the bio tag a nerf? If you drop them with a medivac then they can be healed etc. I guess you take more dmg from archons... but it's not like you'd be using hellions to fight archons before either.... | ||
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Ethoex
United States164 Posts
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:47 avilo wrote: Oh no, I still think it's awesome they are taking that route with units and making them powerful. They buffed the mine. They buffed the tempest previous patch as well, and they also buffed the blinding cloud previous patch. Now they've double buffed blinding cloud, and double/triple buffed the tempest, and reverted previous nerfs to the battle hellion (it still has the bio flag on it which is a nerf). Guess they are taking it to the EXTREME yo They keep buffing because people keep not using the units/abilities. Until people actually start using the new stuff regularly, they won't have any good data to work with. So, bring on the EXTREME!!! | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:28 Necro)Phagist( wrote: I disagree, I think it will be more difficult to spread after being hit by it. But not impossible and not instant death. This is very much so the kind of spell Fungal should be. Units slowed by 50% just means it's harder to micro. Will be interesting to see what pro players can do to dodge within a time warp. Vikings should be able to counter them, just lead with them by 1 or 2 range, missiles snipe oracle(really fragile unit will pretty much insta die against a good number of vikings)and deny the time warp from hitting your army. It's a beta, at least them them try it out before condemning it as op or useless etc. With these new changes I am really.... Really excited for not only this patch but t osee if blizzard can keep moving in this direction! I mean okay it's more micro, which is good. But is TvP really eh match up which need to be more micro heavy ? :/ | ||
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:48 Sent. wrote: At first I thought that Time Warp is going to be useless, but then I realized that it can be really useful in PvT. Usually it was pointless to chase fleeing bio because it was very hard to catch stimmed units. Even if you managed to catch them, you still couldn't kill them because stalkers are just awful vs bio. I have question about Tempest: Do people use it in late game pvp or the match up is still suffering from the war of the worlds syndrome? From PvP's I've played into lategame...lategame is similar but there's a certain point where after the mass archon/collosus stage you start accumulating tempests as well with psi storm. I don't know if early/mid-game PvP is more stable with the mothership core, but the mothership core seems to let you get an expansion more often than wings of liberty at least. Collosus you'll still make a hell of a lot of but now there's an element of "when should i get some tempests." Theoretically it might also be possible to go pure stargate + gateway units PvP because tempests counter collosus pretty hard. If your opponent has like 10 collosus and you started to mass up tempests it's pretty funny :D | ||
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
Also time warp is just another anti micro button. | ||
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:47 didden95 wrote: sooooo. entomb [mineralblock?] is gone? yea. it was a pretty dumb spell. | ||
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