On October 13 2012 09:09 Hall0wed wrote:
Just what zerg needs, more easy and early defense. -_-;; RIP cloaked units.

Other than the zerg changes I like it. Still waiting on the time when they start changing current units though.

They technically started with the Sentry.

tomwizz

524 Posts

October 13 2012 00:12 GMT

#182

Finally terran got new unit!

HELLBAT ftw

Cabinet Sanchez

Australia1097 Posts

October 13 2012 00:13 GMT

#183

Why is there 2 threads for this? One in SC2 and one in HoTS? WTF?

xCherubiMx

United States25 Posts

October 13 2012 00:18 GMT

#184

I cant play toss in Hots, working on my Zerg until it comes out

Semtext

Germany287 Posts

October 13 2012 00:18 GMT

#185

I imagine Dustin Browder in his Battlecruiser looking down at the battle.net, seein the reactions, saying to himself )(or the white furry cat he is stroking): "At least we got that Hellbat issue out of the way. Phew, the most controversial name change ever in the Blizzard universe slipped by without anything since every T was whining about how incredibly good the other races became. Now we can finally roll back the buffs to Z and P in the next patches after everybody understands how stupidly good they were."

At least I hope that's what this patch is about. Couldn't imagine anything else that makes more sense.

SolarJto

United States260 Posts

October 13 2012 00:19 GMT

#186

Amazing balance for terran! Hellbat woo!

neobowman

Canada3324 Posts

October 13 2012 00:21 GMT

#187

Coming from a Zerg player, if you don't need an evo to make spores, it basically makes banshees completely useless.

I really liked the mothership's energize ability. Gave it a lot of options and made it a fun unit that could do lots of stuff. Now it's just kinda ugh.

Hallucination seems kinda iffy. Think it was fine where it was.

CruelZeratul

Germany4588 Posts

October 13 2012 00:23 GMT

#188

On October 13 2012 08:45 dezi wrote:
Is this some kinda joke? Detection from M-Core > Banshee opening is gone ... limit us more Blizzard - way to go!

In addition to Spores without any requirements. At this point they could just remove cloak from the game.

theNational.

Canada54 Posts

October 13 2012 00:26 GMT

#189

I don't really see spores being buildable without an evo to be really that game changing. It does seem really stupid how many changes have to be made due to a seemingly OP new unit from beta.

1a2a3a[MB]

United States297 Posts

October 13 2012 00:26 GMT

#190

WTF why the hell does Terran geta buff

absol

1 Post

October 13 2012 00:27 GMT

#191

So without fleet beacon, if protoss just play early tempest rush how can zerg defend it? its range seems to be enough to remove all ground units without taking damage. Zerg needs mutas or corruptors to hit it, but i think tempest can arrive at zerg base before lair.

rpgalon

Brazil1069 Posts

October 13 2012 00:31 GMT

#192

well, I thought the tempest was going to break the game, but from the games I saw, it is actually not that good.

SimoN999

Poland21 Posts

October 13 2012 00:45 GMT

#193

Oh zerg i so hard and bad race, it need more buff.

I think bilzzard should add burrow, dedection to mutas and maybe ability to transfer them to ultralisk. And maybe creep should do damge...

R3DT1D3

285 Posts

October 13 2012 00:56 GMT

#194

It's times like these where I miss SOTG the most. We need people talking about how crazy these patch notes are in a humorous way.

EnumaAvalon

Philippines3613 Posts

October 13 2012 00:59 GMT

#195

What the hell? No more DT rushes against Zerg? WHY Blizzard WHY?

cpc

Australia126 Posts

October 13 2012 00:59 GMT

#196

a bit sad about energise since it seems like it could have had plenty of interesting applications compared with void syphon which they must have grabbed from the ideas bin because they couldn't think of anything interesting

Creager

Germany1942 Posts

October 13 2012 01:04 GMT

#197

man wtf...?!

some changes are okay, I guess (widow mine, viper, tempest), but c'mon, hallucination and spore crawler?!

Now why should a toss ever waste his time on a mofo-core since he can go back to 4-gate with high ground vision (blink in mah base, baby)?
Also spore crawler w/o evo chamber is just stupid IMO

Blizz is fucking up with this, more and more sadly... Already thinking about transitioning over to BW or staying on WoL as I'm really dissapointed in what direction this is going (and although it just might be beta)...

Creager

Germany1942 Posts

October 13 2012 01:06 GMT

#198

On October 13 2012 09:45 SimoN999 wrote:
Oh zerg i so hard and bad race, it need more buff.

I think bilzzard should add burrow, dedection to mutas and maybe ability to transfer them to ultralisk. And maybe creep should do damge...

THIS!

RiceAgainst

United States1849 Posts

October 13 2012 01:15 GMT

#199

No MS Core energize? But that was my favorite ability in HoTS...

Every time I see the patch notes, I still feel like a lot of things are missing. Until then I really won't focus on the beta (even if that's what I should be doing).

Existential

Australia2107 Posts

October 13 2012 01:21 GMT

#200

I can understand why they got rid of the Evo Chamber requirement for the spore crawler due to the widowmine... But I think the widowmine should have been tweaked and not the evo chamber requirement... Might as well give all overlords detection again like in BW...