HotS Balance Update #6 10/12/12 - Page 28

On October 16 2012 21:09 Warpish wrote:
Blizzard don't be afraid to bring the Firebat to HotS. The Hellbat or whatever you want to call it is not a mech unit. It plays just like a bio unit. A Medevac can heal an Hellbat but not an Hellion, there's absolutely no logic to this.

On October 16 2012 21:09 Warpish wrote:
Blizzard don't be afraid to bring the Firebat to HotS. The Hellbat or whatever you want to call it is not a mech unit. It plays just like a bio unit.

On October 16 2012 21:09 Warpish wrote:
A Medevac can heal an Hellbat but not an Hellion, there's absolutely no logic to this.

On October 17 2012 06:55 Ry2D2 wrote:
Why do they remove evo chamber requirement? Capable zerg players should be capable of making an evo chamber before spore crawlers just like protosses need forge before cannon and terrans need Ebay before turrets. It's like all harass cloak rushes vZ are pointless now.

On October 17 2012 06:55 Ry2D2 wrote:
Why call the battle hellion a hellbat? If you want a firebat in the game blizzard why would you remove it in the first place?

On October 17 2012 07:19 archon256 wrote:

Firebats can't transform.
Firebats come from the same building that Marines do.
Firebats can stim.
Firebats share upgrades with Marines, not tanks.
Firebats are not Hellbats.

Just because they're both units that can be healed by Medivacs and have AoE fire attacks doesn't mean they're the same unit.


Come now, surely you see that there are plenty of illogical things in SC2 (and SC1 for that matter).
Are you going to argue that SCVs should no longer be heal-able by Medivacs too?


I kinda agree, but as you say, a capable Zerg would already have evo chambers out against cloaked rushes. This change won't affect a thing at the pro level for those builds, and I daresay it won't matter much in most of the higher leagues.


See my above points.

p.s. Why are people so giddy about Firebats anyway? From what I recall the only time they'd be seen in BW games was when doing an early bust of a Zerg's sunken colony wall, and far from a staple unit in pro games. But from the responses it sounds like the "Hellbat" is a crime against a much-loved ol' favorite.

On October 17 2012 06:55 Ry2D2 wrote:
Why do they remove evo chamber requirement? Capable zerg players should be capable of making an evo chamber before spore crawlers just like protosses need forge before cannon and terrans need Ebay before turrets. It's like all harass cloak rushes vZ are pointless now.
Why did they remove energize? Seemed like a fun and balanced concept to me.
Why call the battle hellion a hellbat? If you want a firebat in the game blizzard why would you remove it in the first place? *facepalm*
Good Tempest changes though. Carry on.

On October 17 2012 16:59 blade55555 wrote:

You would think of overlords all had detection like bw that cloak rushes would be pointless right? Wasn't that way at all and probably won't be pointless either with this change.

On October 17 2012 17:07 SarcasmMonster wrote:


There were no Banshees in BW. Rushing cloaked Wraiths isn't the same.

For , they had the Corsair which was much better at killing/zoning Overlords than Phoenixes. AKA Corsair/DT. Phoenix/DT isn't nearly as good even when Overlords don't come with free detection.

Not really comparable situations.

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