HotS Balance Update #5 [10/5/12] - Page 19

The patch notes you have linked in the OP are wrong. You state "Unstable Payload is an auto-cast ability that initiates once the Widow Mine is burrowed. It cannot be turned off unless the unit is unburrowed."

Autocast can NEVER be turned off for this unit. When when unburrowed the icons are not spinning like an auto-cast and both left and right-click don't change it.

PrideTV just tested it for us.
Please update OP.

On October 06 2012 08:06 Qikz wrote:


I have no problem with this. Works just like the spidermine (minus it hitting air, I don't agree with that).

If you want to use DTs, get a halucination to go eat the widowmine then run your dts in, it's not difficult.

Also the zergling backstab thing is what the mine is designed to do. Without it, mech is awful at dealing with any kind of base race as you just can't get back before you lose all your bases due to the god awful map design. If tanks were stronger and you could actually defend areas with small amounts of tanks, it wouldn't be an issue.

On October 06 2012 15:07 Ooshmagoosh wrote:
If you can lift a factory into someone's base, they're in a bad way.

Until they get detection, your mine will be getting 2 - 4 free worker kills every missile refresh. Terran can just press C and be done with it, but everybody else has to evacuate their mineral line every few moments and offer a sacrifice to David Kim before mining again.

If you have a lot of shooting stuff at the front of your base, mines are probably easier to deal with than before, due to the lack of control terrans have over what and when they shoot...just remember where they were planted.

I guarantee you this will get dragged into a back alley and beaten to near-death with a nerf bat by the end of the week.

On October 06 2012 15:14 Existor wrote:
New widow mine now can be deactivated for a 40 sec with Zerglings and then killed by other units without any damage.


They're right. Unburrow and you turn it off.

On October 06 2012 15:31 Xanbatou wrote:
Why don't the move contaminate from the overseer to the oracle and make it a channeled ability? They should also make it actually work on all buildings. They should make it so that it cancels almost all effects of that ability.

Casting it on a supply depot could prevent it from being lowered/raised and also stop it from contributing to the supply. Casting it on a cannon would stop it from firing. Casting it on a unit producing structure or a research producing structure would stop it from producing anything.

Hell, they could even remove entomb to and make it so that if you cast this on a town hall, you can't return minerals to it.

No you can't. We just opened a game vs a CPU and tried it. There are 2 icons visible when the unit is unburrowed and neither of them has the swirl of an autocast ability, and neither of them do anything when left or right clicked right clicked except burrow the unit as normal.
Edit: Clarified a bit

On October 06 2012 15:33 Existor wrote:

Man, you're understanding it in a different way. I said:

- unburrow it
- you turn the unit off
- burrow it
- you turn the unit on

Understand? I never said about turning off autocast when it's burrowed.

On October 06 2012 15:35 Geneq wrote:
Gotta love the imagination of them.. now Widow Mine is basically Swarm Host that launches banelings? and the oracle ability - didn't corruptors had something like this in WoL beta?

On October 06 2012 15:40 mcmartini wrote:and again....just reintroduce spidermine I mean seriously it's getting a little silly now :/

Except people WANT a way of turning off the autocast for manual targeting.