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Protein
Profile Joined August 2010
United States132 Posts
September 05 2012 18:59 GMT
#1061
On September 06 2012 03:42 enemy2010 wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the mothership core's abilities are? Nothing detailed, just some key facts


I gotcha!

1) Energize. 100 Energy. Fills up the energy of any caster or building (yes, that includes nexus')

2) Purify. 75 Energy. Turns the Core into a cannon with 7 range and 25 dmg. Attacks pretty fast. Lasts 45 seconds

3) Mass Recall! 150 Energy. I assume I don't need to explain this?

It's really excellent design. And I'm glad it can move.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 05 2012 19:02 GMT
#1062
On September 06 2012 03:37 MCDayC wrote:
I still haven't seen any convincing mine or viper play yet, has anyone else?

I didn't see the Mine either, but Vibe vs. Kiwikaki series is currently going. In first game that I've watched, Vibe went for mass Mutas, and then transitioned into Vipers and Swarm Hosts, while still had ~20 Mutas. He burrowed the Swarm Host far from enemy base, but Locusts last so damn long that they could've reach the Kiwi's wall. On the other hand, since Mutas have low range, he was grouping them with Vipers, and easily sniped Sentries and Stalkers with abduct and focus fire, then he would fly away. :D
It ended when Kiwi sent ~20 Stalkers to clean the Swarm Hosts, but what he didn't know is that Locusts are damn strong, as he blinked to kill the Swarm Hosts, 20+ Locusts spawned, and completely wiped out his Stalkers.

Few games after that, Vibe went for Hydras and Roaches, and transitioned into Hydras, Swarm Hosts and Vipers. Kiwi started to make Tempests and Colossi, and was going toe to toe with Vibe, but then Vipers started to abduct Colossi and Tempests, and 1 by 1, they all got destroyed, and the rest of the army just couldn't keep with masses of 3-2 upgraded Locusts and Hydras.

The games are pretty damn entertaining. :D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
September 05 2012 19:03 GMT
#1063
Secret best thing about the beta.

On the maps the mains are actually big so you can get a decent amount of productiopn as Terran.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 05 2012 19:03 GMT
#1064
On September 06 2012 04:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 03:37 MCDayC wrote:
I still haven't seen any convincing mine or viper play yet, has anyone else?

I didn't see the Mine either, but Vibe vs. Kiwikaki series is currently going. In first game that I've watched, Vibe went for mass Mutas, and then transitioned into Vipers and Swarm Hosts, while still had ~20 Mutas. He burrowed the Swarm Host far from enemy base, but Locusts last so damn long that they could've reach the Kiwi's wall. On the other hand, since Mutas have low range, he was grouping them with Vipers, and easily sniped Sentries and Stalkers with abduct and focus fire, then he would fly away. :D
It ended when Kiwi sent ~20 Stalkers to clean the Swarm Hosts, but what he didn't know is that Locusts are damn strong, as he blinked to kill the Swarm Hosts, 20+ Locusts spawned, and completely wiped out his Stalkers.

Few games after that, Vibe went for Hydras and Roaches, and transitioned into Hydras, Swarm Hosts and Vipers. Kiwi started to make Tempests and Colossi, and was going toe to toe with Vibe, but then Vipers started to abduct Colossi and Tempests, and 1 by 1, they all got destroyed, and the rest of the army just couldn't keep with masses of 3-2 upgraded Locusts and Hydras.

The games are pretty damn entertaining. :D

:D Sounds cool!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
HDgBober
Profile Joined March 2012
25 Posts
September 05 2012 19:04 GMT
#1065
EU region have invite?
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
September 05 2012 19:04 GMT
#1066
Well Stephano just beat Nerchio by going roach/infestor/swarmhost against ling/ultra/viper. Vipers didn't seem all that effective really.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 05 2012 19:05 GMT
#1067
Here is the link of Vibe vs. Kiwikaki, they are playing a lot of custom games together, this is 5th game or something since I tuned in.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Torte de Lini
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10134 Posts
September 05 2012 19:05 GMT
#1068
On September 06 2012 04:03 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 04:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On September 06 2012 03:37 MCDayC wrote:
I still haven't seen any convincing mine or viper play yet, has anyone else?

I didn't see the Mine either, but Vibe vs. Kiwikaki series is currently going. In first game that I've watched, Vibe went for mass Mutas, and then transitioned into Vipers and Swarm Hosts, while still had ~20 Mutas. He burrowed the Swarm Host far from enemy base, but Locusts last so damn long that they could've reach the Kiwi's wall. On the other hand, since Mutas have low range, he was grouping them with Vipers, and easily sniped Sentries and Stalkers with abduct and focus fire, then he would fly away. :D
It ended when Kiwi sent ~20 Stalkers to clean the Swarm Hosts, but what he didn't know is that Locusts are damn strong, as he blinked to kill the Swarm Hosts, 20+ Locusts spawned, and completely wiped out his Stalkers.

Few games after that, Vibe went for Hydras and Roaches, and transitioned into Hydras, Swarm Hosts and Vipers. Kiwi started to make Tempests and Colossi, and was going toe to toe with Vibe, but then Vipers started to abduct Colossi and Tempests, and 1 by 1, they all got destroyed, and the rest of the army just couldn't keep with masses of 3-2 upgraded Locusts and Hydras.

The games are pretty damn entertaining. :D

:D Sounds cool!


Yeah man, swarm hosts are awesome. Those little ranged bugs really bring pain down their enemies.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 05 2012 19:06 GMT
#1069
ForGG got owned hard by some classic mech, nice to see, the new hellions seem much better at covering tank lines from over eager bio.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10134 Posts
September 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#1070
On September 06 2012 04:04 Sp00ly wrote:
Well Stephano just beat Nerchio by going roach/infestor/swarmhost against ling/ultra/viper. Vipers didn't seem all that effective really.


Fungal on vipers, ezpz.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
September 05 2012 19:08 GMT
#1071
On September 06 2012 04:04 Sp00ly wrote:
Well Stephano just beat Nerchio by going roach/infestor/swarmhost against ling/ultra/viper. Vipers didn't seem all that effective really.


Just because he lost 1 game with Viper's doesn't mean that Vipers isn't that good right?
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 05 2012 19:08 GMT
#1072
T_T so many good games to watch, I'm stuck with Destiny quitting without GG against warhound bio pushes.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
HDgBober
Profile Joined March 2012
25 Posts
September 05 2012 19:09 GMT
#1073
Eu region have invite? OR only America?
VanillaSky
Profile Joined August 2010
41 Posts
September 05 2012 19:09 GMT
#1074
Really cool how they mostly invited pros since that way the game will be balanced way quicker.
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 19:16:21
September 05 2012 19:09 GMT
#1075
On September 06 2012 03:42 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 03:34 Tsubbi wrote:
even if its just beta its baffling how the war hound in its current form made it into the game, 1 supply roach is nothing compared to this

Ah, and in case you were wondering, 2 roaches own 1 warhound.



uhm no?
warhound dps is 23/1.3=17,7 so it's not 17
17.7-1 armor roach mean still 16.7
in 9 secs a warhound kill 1 roach and lose (16-1+16-1)/2(-1 is the armor warhound)*9= 135hp
in other 9 second he kill the second roach and lose 67.5 hp
135+67.5=202.5hp and this without counting the 7 range
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 05 2012 19:10 GMT
#1076
On September 06 2012 04:09 HDgBober wrote:
Eu region have invite? OR only America?

All regions got Invites I think, but only US servers are online afaik.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 05 2012 19:10 GMT
#1077
ZvZ: Fitzy vs. ViBE1
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10134 Posts
September 05 2012 19:10 GMT
#1078
On September 06 2012 04:08 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 04:04 Sp00ly wrote:
Well Stephano just beat Nerchio by going roach/infestor/swarmhost against ling/ultra/viper. Vipers didn't seem all that effective really.


Just because he lost 1 game with Viper's doesn't mean that Vipers isn't that good right?


Vipers are great, for example the blind thing helps a lot against swarmhosts to be able to kill them, or pulling infestors. But you need to spread them before getting fungaled like a turd ;P
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 05 2012 19:11 GMT
#1079
On September 06 2012 04:08 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 04:04 Sp00ly wrote:
Well Stephano just beat Nerchio by going roach/infestor/swarmhost against ling/ultra/viper. Vipers didn't seem all that effective really.


Just because he lost 1 game with Viper's doesn't mean that Vipers isn't that good right?


Yeah, what about blinding cloud?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
September 05 2012 19:11 GMT
#1080
On September 06 2012 04:09 VanillaSky wrote:
Really cool how they mostly invited pros since that way the game will be balanced way quicker.

I think its a good idea too, theyll get more "pure" data. if a bunch of newbs like myself would be in beta it simply wouldnt even be relevant data to use in balancing.

i just hope they actually play it a lot, and of course even more important, provide good solid feedback to blizzard.
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