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Do not beg for keys, offer to trade things for keys, or offer to buy keys in this thread.
malaan
Profile Joined September 2010
365 Posts
September 05 2012 18:37 GMT
#1021
Warhound is insanely OP. I tried to 6 gate a terran on the protoss-looking map and he had 4-5 warhounds which destroyed everything I had in seconds. Zealots get completely murdered by battle hallions, in fact, gateway units are pretty useless in the early game right now (I rolled zerg this time so we will see how that goes)
Treehead
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
999 Posts
September 05 2012 18:37 GMT
#1022
I missed Kiwi. Is he trying blink/recall in PvZ again?
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
September 05 2012 18:37 GMT
#1023
WHAT? EG didn't get any keys? O.O
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 05 2012 18:37 GMT
#1024
I still haven't seen any convincing mine or viper play yet, has anyone else?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
siii
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway251 Posts
September 05 2012 18:38 GMT
#1025
Warhound should be 3 supply tbh, other than that it doesnt seem as op as people want it to be. I'd like to see zerg go ling/viper , toss go immortal/colossus zelots or just go mass air and terran just mass bio mass expand and air transition behind it. Massing war hounds the way some people are doing shouldn't be viable against those.

Of course we'd have to see how the mech style as a whole develops with the use of siege tanks and battle hellions maybe even thors together with them. But im thinking, siege tanks, warhounds, hellions and lots of uppgraded vikings.
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 18:41:42
September 05 2012 18:38 GMT
#1026
Blizzard will 100% surely nerf Warhound if they are too _strong_. That does not worry me a bit. What worries me is the poor design of the unit. It is basically one more 2 legged bland Terran 1a unit. I thought they learned their lesson when Marauder turned out as poor game design. How many 2 legged Terran units do we have now?

Marine, Marauder, Warhound, Battle hellion, Reaper, Ghost, Thor. Nice variation Blizzard, how the heck could they keep Thor and Marauder while introducing Warhound is beyond me. Imagine new players starting in HOTS, it will be confusing with so many bland 2 legged T units with so many hard counter specialities. Bill Roper come back and save this mess.

EDIT: They can tweak figures all they want and it will in the end be fairly balanced, so why even bother commenting on that? But what people must do it stop Blizzard before they decide to keep this awful unit. It wont be fixed otherwise, SINCE the community was silent enough which led to Blizzard keeping Colossus for example in the game even though it was a poor excuse for a unit ill fitting for electronic sports.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 05 2012 18:38 GMT
#1027
On September 06 2012 03:37 enemy2010 wrote:
WHAT? EG didn't get any keys? O.O

Thorzain did, idra didn't, which would be funny if it was based off of his constant bashing of blizzard, possibly deserved. then.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 05 2012 18:39 GMT
#1028
On September 06 2012 03:37 enemy2010 wrote:
WHAT? EG didn't get any keys? O.O

Thorzain and Demuslim got keys.

Stephano also, if he counts as EG yet.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
September 05 2012 18:39 GMT
#1029
On September 06 2012 03:36 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 03:34 Tsubbi wrote:
even if its just beta its baffling how the war hound in its current form made it into the game, 1 supply roach is nothing compared to this


That's not true. It's strong but not THAT strong.

It's actually stronger, I'd say.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
September 05 2012 18:39 GMT
#1030
On September 06 2012 03:38 siii wrote:
Warhound should be 3 supply tbh, other than that it doesnt seem as op as people want it to be. I'd like to see zerg go ling/viper , toss go immortal/colossus zelots or just go mass air and terran just mass bio mass expand and air transition behind it. Massing war hounds the way some people are doing shouldn't be viable against those.

Of course we'd have to see how the mech style as a whole develops with the use of siege tanks and battle hellions maybe even thors together with them. But im thinking, siege tanks, warhounds, hellions and lots of uppgraded vikings.


Ling viper? Battle hellions.
Hey! How you doin'?
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3379 Posts
September 05 2012 18:40 GMT
#1031
On September 06 2012 03:38 HowardRoark wrote:
Blizzard will 100% surely nerf Warhound if they are too _strong_. That does not worry me a bit. What worries me is the poor design of the unit. It is basically one more 2 legged bland Terran 1a unit. I thought they learned their lesson when Marauder turned out as poor game design. How many 2 legged Terran units do we have now?

Marine, Marauder, Warhound, Battle hellion, Reaper, Ghost, Thor. Nice variation Blizzard, how the heck could they keep Thor and Marauder while introducing Warhound is beyond me. Imagine new players starting in HOTS, it will be confusing with so many bland 2 legged T units with so many hard counter specialities. Bill Roper come back and save this mess.

So terran problem is that the units have 2 legs?
Really?
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
September 05 2012 18:40 GMT
#1032
On September 06 2012 03:38 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 03:37 enemy2010 wrote:
WHAT? EG didn't get any keys? O.O

Thorzain did, idra didn't, which would be funny if it was based off of his constant bashing of blizzard, possibly deserved. then.

Right, Thorzain did.

But Idra getting any key is pretty surprising, despite his constant bashes against blizzard. His words against them never seemed THAT strong to me....
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45210 Posts
September 05 2012 18:41 GMT
#1033
On September 06 2012 03:37 enemy2010 wrote:
WHAT? EG didn't get any keys? O.O


A bunch of EG players did.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
artosismermaid
Profile Joined May 2011
213 Posts
September 05 2012 18:41 GMT
#1034
On September 06 2012 03:40 enemy2010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 03:38 MCDayC wrote:
On September 06 2012 03:37 enemy2010 wrote:
WHAT? EG didn't get any keys? O.O

Thorzain did, idra didn't, which would be funny if it was based off of his constant bashing of blizzard, possibly deserved. then.

Right, Thorzain did.

But Idra getting any key is pretty surprising, despite his constant bashes against blizzard. His words against them never seemed THAT strong to me....


pretty sure he has called david kim an idiot, clueless and fucking retarded
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 18:45:59
September 05 2012 18:42 GMT
#1035
On September 06 2012 03:34 Tsubbi wrote:
even if its just beta its baffling how the war hound in its current form made it into the game, 1 supply roach is nothing compared to this


Actually it is. Let's compare beta warhound against beta roaches foodwise.

2 Roaches

145 HPs x2 = 290 HP's
16 damage x2 = 32 Damage = 16 DPS.
150 Minerals -- 50 Gas


1 Warhound

220 HP
23 Damage = 17 DPS
150 Minerals -- 75 Gas

Techwise roaches are way more forgiving and you could easilly get them in mass on early game due zerg macro mechanichs, so it's problem wasn't only being one food, but HOW FAST a zerg could get an insane army due to it's low food cost + larvae. You can't do the same with warhounds since they require enough gas and have a quite high build time (building enough factorys + tech labs isn't ezpz).

Ah, and in case you were wondering, 2 roaches own 1 warhound.


Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 05 2012 18:42 GMT
#1036
On September 06 2012 03:38 HowardRoark wrote:
Blizzard will 100% surely nerf Warhound if they are too _strong_. That does not worry me a bit. What worries me is the poor design of the unit. It is basically one more 2 legged bland Terran 1a unit. I thought they learned their lesson when Marauder turned out as poor game design. How many 2 legged Terran units do we have now?

Warhound is extremely microable with their mobility and long range attack. Not an a-move unit, nor is the marauder for that matter.

The warhound is overpowered, sure, but I think it could have a niche in a more stalker-like mobile ranged unit. They just need to tone down its size and HP.
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
September 05 2012 18:42 GMT
#1037
Can anyone tell me what the mothership core's abilities are? Nothing detailed, just some key facts
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
September 05 2012 18:43 GMT
#1038
On September 06 2012 03:41 artosismermaid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 03:40 enemy2010 wrote:
On September 06 2012 03:38 MCDayC wrote:
On September 06 2012 03:37 enemy2010 wrote:
WHAT? EG didn't get any keys? O.O

Thorzain did, idra didn't, which would be funny if it was based off of his constant bashing of blizzard, possibly deserved. then.

Right, Thorzain did.

But Idra getting any key is pretty surprising, despite his constant bashes against blizzard. His words against them never seemed THAT strong to me....


pretty sure he has called david kim an idiot, clueless and fucking retarded

OK, seems I didn't watch that many interviews with him ;P
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
siii
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway251 Posts
September 05 2012 18:43 GMT
#1039
On September 06 2012 03:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 03:38 siii wrote:
Warhound should be 3 supply tbh, other than that it doesnt seem as op as people want it to be. I'd like to see zerg go ling/viper , toss go immortal/colossus zelots or just go mass air and terran just mass bio mass expand and air transition behind it. Massing war hounds the way some people are doing shouldn't be viable against those.

Of course we'd have to see how the mech style as a whole develops with the use of siege tanks and battle hellions maybe even thors together with them. But im thinking, siege tanks, warhounds, hellions and lots of uppgraded vikings.


Ling viper? Battle hellions.


I just mean to the mass warhound style a lot of people seem to be using, and people tend to whine about. Of course battle hellions will demolish lings.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 05 2012 18:45 GMT
#1040
ForGG trying to beat mass warhounds.
twitch.tv/medrea
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