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Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 17:39:41
September 05 2012 17:39 GMT
#941
On September 06 2012 02:38 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 02:34 virpi wrote:
On September 06 2012 02:32 AxionSteel wrote:
So tvt is warhound vs warhound? How exciting

it's day 1 of the beta man.

I know They will get nerfed anyways, but still..Kinda weird

I thought the warhound has an anti-air attack too.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
September 05 2012 17:39 GMT
#942
On September 06 2012 02:29 FrogOfWar wrote:
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On September 06 2012 02:22 Conti wrote:
On September 06 2012 02:10 Plansix wrote:
On September 06 2012 02:07 darkness wrote:
What I don't understand is why Blizzard removed the HotS map in WoL on the EU server. I was interested in playing while waiting for a beta key.


They did not want it to cause confusion with the real beta or the changes they were making. Considering the way false information travels through the community and the way it responds to every litting change, real or not, it is totally understandable.

I call bullshit on that one. Sure that was the official reason, but it's kind of obvious that they simply did not want all the closed beta changes being immediately transferred onto the free WoL map. It's entirely possible to basically get 100% of the new HotS multiplayer features (units, graphics, UI, everything) through a WoL custom map. But then no one would buy HotS, so they simply disallow that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not ranting. It's quite understandable that they did this, but at least they could be honest about it.


Then they would have taken down the map just before release, not just before beta.
Also, by saying "no one" would buy hots you assume that no one cares about single player and ladder.

Granted, that was a bit of hyperbole on my part. I disagree, though, if people could play the beta right now on the custom map, their desire to get into the actual beta would be much lower. Blizzard wants us to want to get into the beta, however.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
September 05 2012 17:39 GMT
#943
I really don't like the warhound against tanks. It should be a purely anti mass immortal unit or have a really long cooldown on the missiles since TvT is looking so dumb right now.
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darook
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden16 Posts
September 05 2012 17:39 GMT
#944
haha saw a game sjow played before his opponent did some reaper harass into a 2 tank siege mode push. Sjow just walked forward with his 4 warhounds and instakilled the first tank, did it again and then counter killed his opp while laughing at the silly unit :p
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 17:41:11
September 05 2012 17:39 GMT
#945
On September 06 2012 02:36 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 02:34 virpi wrote:
On September 06 2012 02:32 AxionSteel wrote:
So tvt is warhound vs warhound? How exciting

it's day 1 of the beta man.


forgg's stream, basically this in every tvt

yep, because it's very very strong atm AND a new unit. ofc everybody is using it. if it still feels op in some weeks, blizz will surely nerf it somehow. think of the wol beta, in the beginning it was a completely different game.

edit: but the warhound is pretty boring to watch, that's for sure.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 17:42:43
September 05 2012 17:42 GMT
#946
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
September 05 2012 17:45 GMT
#947
I really can't believe these dumb clunky robots are in a Starcraft game. They just look so out of place
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 05 2012 17:47 GMT
#948
Warhounds remind me of 1 supply roaches.

The game seems to revolve around terran just building a bunch of warhounds and the opponent scrambling to counter them in any way possible, usually failing.
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
September 05 2012 17:47 GMT
#949
On September 06 2012 02:39 Qikz wrote:
I really don't like the warhound against tanks. It should be a purely anti mass immortal unit or have a really long cooldown on the missiles since TvT is looking so dumb right now.

Also the unit looks so goofy, feels totally out of place in the terran lineup of units.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 05 2012 17:47 GMT
#950
watching forgg warhound vs P

> make zealot
nope

> make sentry
nope

> make stalker
nope

> make immortal
nope

i lol'd
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 05 2012 17:48 GMT
#951
On September 06 2012 02:37 antilyon wrote:
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On September 06 2012 02:25 Lorch wrote:
First day of beta and people are already talking about unbeatable armies?
I have thought something is unbeatable so many times during all the metagame changes we saw in the two years of wol and someone always figured something out, mech is gonna get figured out sooner or later.

I really don't like this mindset on a beta. if you are not gonna give feedback on beta phase, when is the best time to do it?

When you actually try something instead of screaming "OP" at the first new unit you make... -.-
It is first day, as that guy said. People didn't try 80% of new strategies that are there and that is what Blizzard wants. Obviously, some units are overpowered for a reason.
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Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
September 05 2012 17:48 GMT
#952
On September 06 2012 02:45 floor exercise wrote:
I really can't believe these dumb clunky robots are in a Starcraft game. They just look so out of place

They just need to be able to turn into big rig trucks and the Terran transformation is complete
Don't be asshats
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
September 05 2012 17:49 GMT
#953
Im not going to comment on what the warhound does, how strong it is or anything like that.

my biggest beef with it is that it looks absolutely hideous! in large numbers like shown on forggs stream just looks so very very wrong..

I cant really believe that this is the best look that the designers came up with.

i dont even know how to properly express my feelings on the look and feel of the warhound.. im just at a loss for words.


GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
September 05 2012 17:50 GMT
#954
On September 06 2012 02:37 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
So tanks are now more useless than ever, great. I don't know how it wasn't immediately obvious to Blizzard that when you make a unit to counter tanks, tanks won't be built.


Hell even in TvZ its WH is a good skill toi have.
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 05 2012 17:50 GMT
#955
On September 06 2012 02:47 Leetley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 02:39 Qikz wrote:
I really don't like the warhound against tanks. It should be a purely anti mass immortal unit or have a really long cooldown on the missiles since TvT is looking so dumb right now.

Also the unit looks so goofy, feels totally out of place in the terran lineup of units.


It looks to me a lot like the Goliath and functions a lot like a goliath on that note, why cant it shoot up? I mean I know they gave it a different name and shot animation but its a goliath in everything but name and the fact that it cant shoot up.

This would be like if in LotV marines suddenly couldnt shoot up or Hydras I would just be looking at the unit wondering whats going on for about 5 minutes every single time.
tetrismaan
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark302 Posts
September 05 2012 17:51 GMT
#956
Is it possible to watch HoTS replays in WoL?
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
September 05 2012 17:52 GMT
#957
On September 06 2012 02:49 Artimo wrote:
Im not going to comment on what the warhound does, how strong it is or anything like that.

my biggest beef with it is that it looks absolutely hideous! in large numbers like shown on forggs stream just looks so very very wrong..

I cant really believe that this is the best look that the designers came up with.

i dont even know how to properly express my feelings on the look and feel of the warhound.. im just at a loss for words.




Everything Terran is looking like a Cartoon.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
September 05 2012 17:53 GMT
#958
On September 06 2012 02:51 tetrismaan wrote:
Is it possible to watch HoTS replays in WoL?


I know that in WOL you used to be-able to drag and drop replays without logging in. You should try and see if that works.
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grungust
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
September 05 2012 17:56 GMT
#959
Any idea when the next wave of invites will go out?
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antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 17:57:57
September 05 2012 17:56 GMT
#960
On September 06 2012 02:48 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 02:37 antilyon wrote:
On September 06 2012 02:25 Lorch wrote:
First day of beta and people are already talking about unbeatable armies?
I have thought something is unbeatable so many times during all the metagame changes we saw in the two years of wol and someone always figured something out, mech is gonna get figured out sooner or later.

I really don't like this mindset on a beta. if you are not gonna give feedback on beta phase, when is the best time to do it?

When you actually try something instead of screaming "OP" at the first new unit you make... -.-
It is first day, as that guy said. People didn't try 80% of new strategies that are there and that is what Blizzard wants. Obviously, some units are overpowered for a reason.

They are overpowered because Blizzard lack data to analyze? Isn't that the whole point of beta? I seriously see no reason why not give their feedback now, be it whatever it be. It's not like they will nerf or buff it just based around on how many people are complaining about a unit, they are analysing arguments, not just numbers(at least I hope they aren't).

PS: I agree with you about collecting more experience with the strategies before giving a feedback though.
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