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RommelTJ
Profile Joined July 2010
Mexico50 Posts
February 16 2012 15:35 GMT
#1
Hi,

Is it "En Taro, Adun!" or "En Taro Adun!"? Notice the comma. That is, could you say En Taro as a stand-alone phrase? It has always bothered me when people say it without the comma, but they might be right...

Also, what does it mean?

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MerdaPura
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil148 Posts
February 16 2012 15:38 GMT
#2
If Im not wrong, it means "In honor to" and It's used as an salute and also as war chant
ZeKk
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sweden320 Posts
February 16 2012 16:10 GMT
#3
It means "in honor of adun". Adun was a great Templarwarrior of the past, by rank of Exacutor. Highly respected by his intelligens and strategical mind. So yeah you could probably use it as a stand-alone phrase.

The phrase is also used to greet one another.

Check out more infoa about the language here http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Khalani
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 16 2012 17:35 GMT
#4
Unlike elvish, Khalani is not a developed language with syntax and grammar. There are no "rules".
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
February 16 2012 20:40 GMT
#5
En Taro (enter name) obviously means chug that beer for (insert name)
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
February 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#6
No comma is meant to be used, to answer the first question.
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GlintFox
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States275 Posts
February 16 2012 23:19 GMT
#7
On February 17 2012 01:10 ZeKk wrote:
It means "in honor of adun". Adun was a great Templarwarrior of the past, by rank of Exacutor. Highly respected by his intelligens and strategical mind. So yeah you could probably use it as a stand-alone phrase.

The phrase is also used to greet one another.

Check out more infoa about the language here http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Khalani



That is an AWESOME link ZeKk. I remember how much of a nerd baller I was when I was like 13 and was obessed with SC and started notes to girls I liked with En Taro Adun! or En Taro Tassadar! hahaha, good times.
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Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
February 16 2012 23:40 GMT
#8
On February 17 2012 08:19 GlintFox wrote:

That is an AWESOME link ZeKk. I remember how much of a nerd baller I was when I was like 13 and was obessed with SC and started notes to girls I liked with En Taro Adun! or En Taro Tassadar! hahaha, good times.


If that last bit seriously worked, I really have to wonder what the state of the world is.
GlintFox
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States275 Posts
February 16 2012 23:45 GMT
#9
Totally did. Got a long time gf with it.
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Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
February 17 2012 00:11 GMT
#10
"TriviaEdit

Blizzard Entertainment maintains a real-world dictionary of Khalani. This also ensures that protoss names meet their specifications.[35]
"


GIEF
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Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
February 17 2012 00:35 GMT
#11
It would be hilarious if you could build the entire Protoss language off that one quote .
If that last bit seriously worked, I really have to wonder what the state of the world is.

A very good one obviously.
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5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
February 17 2012 02:53 GMT
#12
Who is Tassadar? did he do something cool?
ZongTG
Profile Joined February 2012
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 04:32:01
February 17 2012 04:29 GMT
#13
First post here on Team Liquid :D

On February 17 2012 11:53 5unrise wrote:
Who is Tassadar? did he do something cool?


Tassadar destroyed the original overmind (The one featured in the SC2 Campaign) by crashing his ship into it, killing him and the overmind. I don't know much of the information, but I'm guessing he was a high ranking templar of great respect.

EDIT: He was an Executor and High Templar. You can find info on him here: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Tassadar
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 05:02:01
February 17 2012 05:00 GMT
#14
Once upon a time the Protoss government was being retarded so instead of doing all the occupy Aiur crap he killed them all with scouts and DTs or something. Then he took his pants off and nuked the overmind with his manliness.
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BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
February 17 2012 05:37 GMT
#15
On February 17 2012 09:35 Maxd11 wrote:
It would be hilarious if you could build the entire Protoss language off that one quote .
Show nested quote +
If that last bit seriously worked, I really have to wonder what the state of the world is.

A very good one obviously.


Exactly what I was thinking. :D
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Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
February 17 2012 05:58 GMT
#16
On February 17 2012 14:00 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Once upon a time the Protoss government was being retarded so instead of doing all the occupy Aiur crap he killed them all with scouts and DTs or something. Then he took his pants off and nuked the overmind with his manliness.

lol nice. Tassadar is like the rebel high templar that was the first to integrate and accept the Dark Templar energies and prowess. That's why he was able to kill the overmind even though it and its cerebrates should be immune to all damage but that of Dark Templars. For not being narrow-minded and saved everyone's ass, we worship him.
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cerb
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany215 Posts
February 17 2012 12:49 GMT
#17
On February 17 2012 01:10 ZeKk wrote:
It means "in honor of adun". Adun was a great Templarwarrior of the past, by rank of Exacutor. Highly respected by his intelligens and strategical mind. So yeah you could probably use it as a stand-alone phrase.

The phrase is also used to greet one another.

Check out more infoa about the language here http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Khalani


Thank you for that link. Really interesting.
Some expressions are also explained more in detail in the books "The dark templar triology". (for example the meaning of: "Adun Toridas!")
But as far as I see it all terms are already collected on that page. Nice.
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 16:16:37
February 17 2012 16:16 GMT
#18
On February 17 2012 11:53 5unrise wrote:
Who is Tassadar?


you're kidding.
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Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
February 18 2012 03:45 GMT
#19
On February 17 2012 11:53 5unrise wrote:
Who is Tassadar? did he do something cool?


He knocked SeleCT out of Code A.
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Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
February 18 2012 05:02 GMT
#20
On February 17 2012 09:11 Starparty wrote:
"TriviaEdit

Blizzard Entertainment maintains a real-world dictionary of Khalani. This also ensures that protoss names meet their specifications.[35]
"


GIEF


A dictionary does not a language make.
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AugustDreams
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia127 Posts
February 19 2012 01:09 GMT
#21
On February 17 2012 08:19 GlintFox wrote:
That is an AWESOME link ZeKk. I remember how much of a nerd baller I was when I was like 13 and was obessed with SC and started notes to girls I liked with En Taro Adun! or En Taro Tassadar! hahaha, good times.


Haha, I did the same kinda thing when I was younger. I would say "En Taro Adun" to my friends who didn't play Starcraft to confuse the hell out of them xD.
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oZe
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden492 Posts
February 19 2012 03:24 GMT
#22
On February 18 2012 01:16 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 11:53 5unrise wrote:
Who is Tassadar?


you're kidding.


He is trolling, there is a big difference.
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nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
February 19 2012 15:05 GMT
#23
On February 17 2012 13:29 ZongTG wrote:
First post here on Team Liquid :D

Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 11:53 5unrise wrote:
Who is Tassadar? did he do something cool?


Tassadar destroyed the original overmind (The one featured in the SC2 Campaign) by crashing his ship into it, killing him and the overmind. I don't know much of the information, but I'm guessing he was a high ranking templar of great respect.

EDIT: He was an Executor and High Templar. You can find info on him here: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Tassadar


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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 19 2012 18:21 GMT
#24
On February 20 2012 00:05 nucLeaRTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 13:29 ZongTG wrote:
First post here on Team Liquid :D

On February 17 2012 11:53 5unrise wrote:
Who is Tassadar? did he do something cool?


Tassadar destroyed the original overmind (The one featured in the SC2 Campaign) by crashing his ship into it, killing him and the overmind. I don't know much of the information, but I'm guessing he was a high ranking templar of great respect.

EDIT: He was an Executor and High Templar. You can find info on him here: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Tassadar


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Sounds like limbo to me...
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MiKTeX
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States234 Posts
February 19 2012 20:01 GMT
#25
On February 18 2012 12:45 Hulavuta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 11:53 5unrise wrote:
Who is Tassadar? did he do something cool?


He knocked SeleCT out of Code A.

oh shi
Aron Times
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
February 19 2012 21:12 GMT
#26
On February 20 2012 05:01 MiKTeX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 12:45 Hulavuta wrote:
On February 17 2012 11:53 5unrise wrote:
Who is Tassadar? did he do something cool?


He knocked SeleCT out of Code A.

oh shi

Damn protiss s-
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ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
February 21 2012 19:10 GMT
#27
ITT: People who never played the SC1 compaign.

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Sanhadrian
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 16:34:59
February 27 2012 16:32 GMT
#28
It means "in honor of Adun"

Adun was the one who saved the Dark Templar from persecution by the Conclave. It is also hinted that he was the first Archon ever ("the lore states that "he burned like a star").

Still, Khalani is supposed to be telepathic, so grammar and syntax is, in a certain sense, pointless; unless you can syntactically arrange brain waves.

EDIT: And since it is one whole sentence, there is no comma. Also, I would assume that someone who does not know Khalani would simply get a migrane and hear some kind of high-pitched squeals when a protoss attempts to communicate.
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qwertzi
Profile Joined March 2011
111 Posts
February 27 2012 22:37 GMT
#29
On February 18 2012 12:45 Hulavuta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 11:53 5unrise wrote:
Who is Tassadar? did he do something cool?


He knocked SeleCT out of Code A.


owned :D
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
February 28 2012 09:12 GMT
#30
On February 18 2012 14:02 Vod.kaholic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 09:11 Starparty wrote:
"TriviaEdit

Blizzard Entertainment maintains a real-world dictionary of Khalani. This also ensures that protoss names meet their specifications.[35]
"


GIEF


A dictionary does not a language make.


Did it become less desirable then?
The artist formerly known as Starparty
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
February 28 2012 17:51 GMT
#31
On February 17 2012 05:40 B.I.G. wrote:
En Taro (enter name) obviously means chug that beer for (insert name)


Thanks for the info!
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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
February 28 2012 18:33 GMT
#32
On February 20 2012 00:05 nucLeaRTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 13:29 ZongTG wrote:
First post here on Team Liquid :D

On February 17 2012 11:53 5unrise wrote:
Who is Tassadar? did he do something cool?


Tassadar destroyed the original overmind (The one featured in the SC2 Campaign) by crashing his ship into it, killing him and the overmind. I don't know much of the information, but I'm guessing he was a high ranking templar of great respect.

EDIT: He was an Executor and High Templar. You can find info on him here: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Tassadar


'I have never tasted death and nor i will'


Nope nope nope that never happened. I don't know what you're talking about. Nope nope nope.

But seriously, Tassadar is StarCraft's Jesus.

Wait.. that would imply zombification.. in which case..

gdi blizzard y u go for overdone plot device
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 15:19:06
March 02 2012 15:11 GMT
#33
En Taro is "in honor of" which the High Templar say but the Dark Templar say "Adun Toridas" which is "may Adun protect/hide you." I don't think anyone has said "Tassadar Toridas" but they might eventually.

It should be noted that Adun and Tassadar both did the weird magical vanishing death spirit thing. H4x.
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 19:22:41
March 02 2012 19:14 GMT
#34
It's a matter of preference. It's like asking, which is correct

(1) Would you like a naked woman ", or a nude ant"?
(2) Would you like a naked woman "or a nude ant"?
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5583 Posts
March 02 2012 19:19 GMT
#35
Well, just think intuitively. If the comma were correct, it would mean that every time someone said "En Taro, Adun," they were talking to Adun. Since Adun is a corpse, we can conclude that there's no comma. This also explains why we had to wait until the immolation of Tassadar before we could say En Taro Tassadar.
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Lord Zeya
Profile Joined February 2012
United States82 Posts
April 16 2012 19:59 GMT
#36
I was shocked when I booted up SC2 for the first time and I heard the protoss saying "en taro tassadar." Just shocked, since I played the original SC, I was used to hearing en taro adun.
Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
April 17 2012 07:52 GMT
#37
On April 17 2012 04:59 Lord Zeya wrote:
I was shocked when I booted up SC2 for the first time and I heard the protoss saying "en taro tassadar." Just shocked, since I played the original SC, I was used to hearing en taro adun.


It was used in Broodwar as well
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
April 17 2012 10:50 GMT
#38
On February 28 2012 01:32 Sanhadrian wrote:
Still, Khalani is supposed to be telepathic, so grammar and syntax is, in a certain sense, pointless; unless you can syntactically arrange brain waves.

EDIT: And since it is one whole sentence, there is no comma. Also, I would assume that someone who does not know Khalani would simply get a migrane and hear some kind of high-pitched squeals when a protoss attempts to communicate.


Actually... when it comes to language, think about how you "think". If you listen to the thoughts you're having (trippy, I know), don't they usually come in some kind of language? Along of course with imagery, emotional sideband, and other sensory inputs. Still, there is an ordering to thoughts, which may be syntactical. A race of pure telepaths might not develop a language as we understand it - they may be even unable to consider such a thing. After all, they don't need it. The mere existence of Khalani as a "language", however, would seem to suggest that the Protoss did develop a language. They also make sounds, so it's possible that Khalani was only ever developed as a spoken/written language in order to facilitate communication with other races, or was left as a legacy of the ancients. (Then, too, the advanced mechanical constructs of Protoss may demand a language, unless they can develop a machine-mind interface capable of "programming" solid state circuitry. Or, rather, flux state circuitry - I doubt they have anything so passe as solid state logic gates.)

As for what a human may perceive... given our general "mind deafness" we may lack the ability to perceive telepathic communications. Alternately, we may be bombarded with stimuli which would make an acid trip look like Disneyland, as we do not have the same sensory organs as Protoss. If they are exceptionally talented projectors (and we have any capability of receiving the signal) we may actually get something we understand. Or they may be able to just download the entire language into our minds without us noticing... Seriously, this particular question has been discussed indirectly in literally hundreds of Science Fiction stories and novels. But I keep thinking that if they even have a language, there must be some reasoning for it, and if it's a language it has to have some kind of grammer and syntax - even if make sense to us it does not, hrm?
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showBanquo
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden182 Posts
April 18 2012 16:50 GMT
#39
About Protoss human/terran communication - the Protoss doesn't "talk" with the terrans right? I mean
I always assumed that they do it telepathically, but in that case wouldn't that freak some guys out ? I can't
recall any "get them out of my head! !#%@ "- comments from the terran characters?
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DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
April 18 2012 17:52 GMT
#40
On April 19 2012 01:50 showBanquo wrote:
About Protoss human/terran communication - the Protoss doesn't "talk" with the terrans right? I mean
I always assumed that they do it telepathically, but in that case wouldn't that freak some guys out ? I can't
recall any "get them out of my head! !#%@ "- comments from the terran characters?

Well, shouldn't you be freaked out by the fact that Zerg Overmind could speak? Why would he need to and how the hell everyone is able to understand what he "says"? At least Protoss historically have a need to communicate with each other, unlike Zerg.

Just drop this topic.
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