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stebo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States45 Posts
January 16 2012 20:26 GMT
#321
On January 17 2012 01:20 Denda Reloaded wrote:
i'm gettin more and more disinterested in hots....


How come?
^^ oi
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
January 16 2012 21:02 GMT
#322
no new info, got boring, gaga is more interesting, alien prequel is more interesting etc.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 23:14:08
January 16 2012 23:08 GMT
#323
On January 17 2012 01:20 Denda Reloaded wrote:
i'm gettin more and more disinterested in hots....

I know.... WOL is finally getting settled and all the matchups are fun, interesting, and balanced. The beta better be like 9+ months long and near completely balanced before they release it.


I also hope they give out the beta access right this time so the balance testing and feedback isn't corrupted by newbies. IE: If you're top 1k in your region (or even just masters), automatically get beta. If you have an active wow account and more than 1 max level character, automatically banned from beta forever.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 05:23:33
January 17 2012 02:25 GMT
#324
I'm actually crazy to see this game out. The more I think about the plot, the more I see it actually makes a lot of sense.

WoL brought us something completely new about Jim Raynor: we saw him in a state of grieve and despair we wouldn't expect from the BW character; then we could see his redemption. Kerrigan, she has been trough a lot. She is almost a brand new character. But I expect her to be consistent with Sarah Kerrigan from Episode I and with the Queen of Blades. I'm really not that interested on what's going to happen with the Hybrids, or the Dominion, but I want too see how all those personal sagas develop.

EDIT: here guys. A pretty nice Dustin Browder interview (from May) so you can calm yourselves.
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
stebo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 07:33:05
January 17 2012 07:26 GMT
#325
@nerak: Nice video /w Dustin. I've met him in real life, at least a couple of times at Blizzard HQ in 2010 & 2011. It would appear that Dustin confirmed that it is in fact a Leviathan that she travels through. Good to know. ^^ oi

@Denda: I'm sorry to hear that you're bored. Blizzard isn't necessarily hasty with their games' releases.
^^ oi
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
January 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#326
i'm @!*''# angry at blizz, i spent 30 $ on a virtual ticket, hoping they'll show off new missions, new storyline, new cinematics or at least just some art (planets, leviathan, kerrigan etc) or reveal what happened before the 4th mission (war for the brood)

but they gave us NOTHING except for the preview trailer with half of it being multiplayer units...

at least we know that kerrigan is gonna assault the shit out of korhal/other dominion planet
stebo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 10:45:58
January 17 2012 10:45 GMT
#327
@Denda: Blizzard didn't show us (the fans + virtual ticket buyers) hands on gameplay of demo at BlizzCon(s) because that's what the internet community is for. I've been to Blizzard HQ and I've actually been in press events /w Dustin Browder who has made it clear to Starcraft fansites such as TeamLiquid.net, Sc2legacy.com, and Sc2armory.com (which I work for as Mod & Community Manger). It's the fansites that are responsible for spreading this sort of detailed information on the games to come. That's why I attend BlizzCon and Blizzard Press Events in the first place, that is why I play the demos, so it can become my responsibility to spread as much word and details about the upcoming Blizzard titles as possible as well as represent the fansite I work for.

Blizzard understands the power of their fansite communities which is why Blizzard heavily supports these fansites in the first place and why so many exist today.
^^ oi
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 13:13:39
January 17 2012 13:06 GMT
#328
On January 17 2012 17:08 Denda Reloaded wrote:
i'm @!*''# angry at blizz, i spent 30 $ on a virtual ticket, hoping they'll show off new missions, new storyline, new cinematics or at least just some art (planets, leviathan, kerrigan etc) or reveal what happened before the 4th mission (war for the brood)

but they gave us NOTHING except for the preview trailer with half of it being multiplayer units...

at least we know that kerrigan is gonna assault the shit out of korhal/other dominion planet

Where is info about that War For The Brood is the 4th mission from?
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nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
January 17 2012 13:41 GMT
#329
On January 17 2012 22:06 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 17:08 Denda Reloaded wrote:
i'm @!*''# angry at blizz, i spent 30 $ on a virtual ticket, hoping they'll show off new missions, new storyline, new cinematics or at least just some art (planets, leviathan, kerrigan etc) or reveal what happened before the 4th mission (war for the brood)

but they gave us NOTHING except for the preview trailer with half of it being multiplayer units...

at least we know that kerrigan is gonna assault the shit out of korhal/other dominion planet

Where is info about that War For The Brood is the 4th mission from?


Browder mentioned there are like 2 or 3 missions before War for the Brood.

I'll bet the first mission is the one you're on Hyperion's floor, defending it against Dominion drop pods.

I was told that the zergling upgrades demonstration videos showed them in instalattion tilesets. Just like firebats upgrades were shown being used in Agria, for example.
(can you confirm, stebo?)

Does this mean you get zerglings to control even inside Hyperion/the lab?
Since we see no zerglings running along Sarah in the ship-floor tyleset, does this mean we have more than one instalattion mission in the beginning of the campaign?


Also, if there was no tutorial talk from Ishza about macroing the Hive in War for the Brood, maybe there is a macro mission before the hands-on missions.

Maybe the dropship is carrying Kerrigan to this planet that isn't Char; she is running away because Raynor has been overrun by Dominion forces. She lands in this planet, there are Zergs there, she controls them, macro a hive for survival and somehow Ishza ans Abathur find her... or maybe they rescue her in outer space?

Who is Sarah Kerrigan?
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
January 17 2012 18:47 GMT
#330
kerri isn't in the hyperion in the beginning, she is busy bitching around in the lab, the lings were in the lab, the environment was in the lab (on char) than she escaped and picked the first leviathan she could find, got into an acceptable opening (mouth) and created her base of operations.
she is on the hyperion later, when matt suggests to calm her tits, maybe it was to the white marine, blizz said matt is gonna have a quite big role.
stebo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States45 Posts
January 17 2012 18:53 GMT
#331
On January 17 2012 22:41 nerak wrote:I was told that the zergling upgrades demonstration videos showed them in instalattion tilesets. Just like firebats upgrades were shown being used in Agria, for example.
(can you confirm, stebo?)
My memory is not that vivid, haha, but yes I remember there being a video demonstration about how the evolution works. I don't remember if it was instillation tilesets. Durring the demo the only units we got to unlock and experiment for mutation was the Zergling, Baneling and Roach.
^^ oi
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
January 18 2012 01:11 GMT
#332
kerrigan is becoming nice through having amnesia? I hate the blizzard writers with the passion of 1000 suns, I miss my broodwar queen of the bitches
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
stebo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 04:21:35
January 18 2012 02:54 GMT
#333
On January 18 2012 10:11 Endymion wrote:
kerrigan is becoming nice through having amnesia? I hate the blizzard writers with the passion of 1000 suns, I miss my broodwar queen of the bitches


I don't understand why you are upset. How is she being 'nice'? In the demo of HotS, she practically wipes out an entire Protoss colony on Kaldir. The only 'nice' thing she did was spare the lives of a few Protoss because according to her they were no threat to her. That sounds familiar actually, just like how Kerrigan spared the lives of Raynor's Raiders on Char durring the Great War mission "Agent of the Swarm." She told Jim to leave Char and never come back instead of killing him and his men.
^^ oi
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
January 18 2012 11:45 GMT
#334
"The girl you knew is dead"
"How many good people you have to kill?' "The killing will never stop... till Mengsk is dead"

Kerrigan is making prisioners; this is new. But I don't think she is "nicer", it's quite the opposite.

The Queen of Blades was the "queen bitch of the Universe", but the Queen of Blades is gone. Good ol Sarah is what was left.

But this isn't the idealist, young, naive Sarah from Rebel Yell. She may not remember what she done, but amnesia is funny. Sometimes the patient can't even remember who he is, but his habits and personality and unchanged. Memory and habits/personality are different things.

The "zergy" component of her persona is out. I believe she doesn't have the lust to kill anymore. But no way that is the Sarah Kerrigan who was against unleashing Zerg on people... Something obviously changed about her. She sounds bitter, violent, and treats her minions agressively when they say they could change sides if someone bigger than her appears.

Maybe years of genocide, deity like powers, and authority, changed her personality forever.

But I'm thinking about something funny. Sarah Kerrigan was very uncomfortable with Zerg, because she was used in those Confederate experiments. How will she feel now, the only human among billions of zerg creatures?
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
Dante.StarCraft
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
January 18 2012 12:53 GMT
#335
I too balk at the idea of Kerrigan being nice. The trailer does little to suggest she is, but for some being scythed by ultralisks might be nice.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
January 18 2012 13:04 GMT
#336
Has there been any info whether we Raszagal will see again?
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 17:48:41
January 18 2012 14:09 GMT
#337
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nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
January 18 2012 14:14 GMT
#338
I didn't read the novels, but I read Starcraft Wiki. Zeratul says in the Dark Templar trilogy, and Metzen also said in an interview, that Tassadar is believed to be the Twilight Messiah. He may be even Adun reincarnated. So their "resurrection" of Tassadar was already expected for those that follow all the lore.

I believe it was something they were saving for LotV, but they decided to use it in WoL. Wasn't a surprise for me, but I think they kind of wasted an opportunity to do a much better revelation.

But maybe it was the right choice. So when Tassadar is back in LotV people won't be so shocked. Blizzard fans apparently don't like surprises.
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
January 18 2012 16:57 GMT
#339
On January 18 2012 10:11 Endymion wrote:
kerrigan is becoming nice through having amnesia? I hate the blizzard writers with the passion of 1000 suns, I miss my broodwar queen of the bitches


She was nice before she developed all those nasty memories wasn't she? You don't think she would revert to her natural self?
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
January 18 2012 17:10 GMT
#340
On January 18 2012 23:14 nerak wrote:
I didn't read the novels, but I read Starcraft Wiki. Zeratul says in the Dark Templar trilogy, and Metzen also said in an interview, that Tassadar is believed to be the Twilight Messiah. He may be even Adun reincarnated. So their "resurrection" of Tassadar was already expected for those that follow all the lore.

I believe it was something they were saving for LotV, but they decided to use it in WoL. Wasn't a surprise for me, but I think they kind of wasted an opportunity to do a much better revelation.

But maybe it was the right choice. So when Tassadar is back in LotV people won't be so shocked. Blizzard fans apparently don't like surprises.


I think its more of Blizzard fans not really being that hardcore when it comes to lore hounding. They play the game and that is their only source of lore, there are tons more of lore that the StarCraft Universe has that isn't bottled up into the game, reading some books is always a treat.
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