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Dante.StarCraft
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
January 10 2012 13:59 GMT
#281
I'll chip and say anything but 2012 is highly unlikely.
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
January 10 2012 18:54 GMT
#282
i think we can assure that the shipping is in 2012.
and a lore question: if kerrigan is human again, she has to have human needs.
so she has to eat or needs to have another energy source. i am interested how blizzard will dodge this illogicality
Dante.StarCraft
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
January 10 2012 20:24 GMT
#283
On January 11 2012 03:54 Denda Reloaded wrote:
she has to have human needs.


Oh, you mean food.
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
January 10 2012 20:59 GMT
#284
exactly
stebo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States45 Posts
January 10 2012 21:13 GMT
#285
I made a long post on Sc2armory.com posting my own thoughts on the HotS storyline, if anyone is interested.
http://sc2armory.com/forums/topic/23118
^^ oi
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
January 10 2012 21:36 GMT
#286
will look into it, gimme (more) a sec! =)
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
January 10 2012 21:42 GMT
#287
oh, i've read the entire thread already :D i thought you added a new post and i didn't know that it was you =)
i agree with the most of the information you gave.

I see you got some more info from blizz, like the date 2506 and other.
Can you tell us more about Lessara? when did blizz confirm the date 2506? where there any noticeable graphical changes (either missions storymode)
did you get a view of the leviathan? i mean the whole creature (i want to know if it looks like the behemoth to know if they are 2 different species in the game)
afaik blizz didn't show off any other cinematics, or am i wrong?
what happened to za'gara? kerrigan refused to kill her, did she appeared as a npc in the storymode?

sorry for the many questions :D
stebo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 23:21:56
January 10 2012 22:59 GMT
#288
-Blizzard confirmed that it takes place almost 2 years after the events of WoL. I don't have an official source of their quote, but it has been cited many times by Blizz. Also, if memory serves me correct, it was stated on the demo when I played at BlizzCon 11 that it takes 2 years after WoL.

-Lessara, like I described in the thread I made @ the armory, was what she refered to herself a 'Protoss colonist/researcher'. She plays as an NPC inbetween campaign missions and serves as a person to talk to. I found her to be very interesting (conidering that she is the first protoss (female) NPC we've seen in SC2). She's bassicaly a protoss version of Aerial Hanson. Whether she assists Kerrigan through the entire campaign or receives her own story tree is unknown atm.

-There was no view of the leviathan (nor the behemoth) in the HotS demo. Although, to my speculation via the cinematic trailer of HotS, there will be one invading a Terran world.

-Blizzard did not show any new cinematics in the demo.

-Za'Gara became a supporting NPC after you 'defeat' her in the mission. Despite both her and Kerrigan settling their differences, she appears to have a negative attitude with Kerrigan whenever you speak to her inbetween missions.

I hope I've been helpful. In the mean time, I'm going to try and find the source of the 2506 date. All I remember is hearing people like Chris Metzen say it during live panels.

EDIT: Checking the recent posts I can see someone already posted a link to my thread. Thank you. ^^ oi
^^ oi
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
January 11 2012 13:33 GMT
#289
On January 11 2012 07:59 stebo wrote:
Checking the recent posts I can see someone already posted a link to my thread. Thank you. ^^ oi


Thank you, mighty lord of idiots. Your thread in Armory was the funniest HotS stuff I've read in a long time.


-Blizzard confirmed that it takes place almost 2 years after the events of WoL. I don't have an official source of their quote, but it has been cited many times by Blizz. Also, if memory serves me correct, it was stated on the demo when I played at BlizzCon 11 that it takes 2 years after WoL.

Hm now that's something. I was thinking you got this information from SC Wiki or SC:L. They mention it but not in a very clear way, it almost feel like a typo or something.

WTF had this girl been doing or the last 2 years? Sleeping? Working along with the Hyperion crew? What are the Zerg doing in this time? Getting annihilated? If the Queen of Blades is missing for two years, probably Arcturus will take advantage of that. Maybe he could had overcome the repercussions of Media Blitz. "I said would sit in this throne to defend humanity against aliens and I did it". Maybe Nova is there because they finally found her, and they desperately need to slay her now they told everybody they already done it.

And, as Dante said, it is probably a Moebius lab that Nova is invading. Arcturus commanding a surprise attack vs Valerian's labs? The plot thickens. Also, were Moebius guys studying Kerrigan? Did she let them, or was it against her will? It is probably she who is suffocating Val. What did he said wrong?


-Lessara, like I described in the thread I made @ the armory, was what she refered to herself a 'Protoss colonist/researcher'. She plays as an NPC inbetween campaign missions and serves as a person to talk to. I found her to be very interesting (conidering that she is the first protoss (female) NPC we've seen in SC2). She's bassicaly a protoss version of Aerial Hanson. Whether she assists Kerrigan through the entire campaign or receives her own story tree is unknown atm.

Though Protoss are awesome, and this would be the first Khalai NPC ever, one-dimensional characters who represent women as fragile and cute beings are lame. I hope Hanson is not "back". I already shoot the bitch on the face once. That's how much I liked her.


-Za'Gara became a supporting NPC after you 'defeat' her in the mission. Despite both her and Kerrigan settling their differences, she appears to have a negative attitude with Kerrigan whenever you speak to her inbetween missions.

This seems very good, buy do you mean she boards the Leviathan, or you talk to her only in Char? Do you remember anything specific she says after the missions?


Thank you once again and be welcome!
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
January 11 2012 13:38 GMT
#290
@Lessara

you said she befriends with kerri<3
how do you notice this? can you quote her or did she do anything special
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
January 11 2012 19:03 GMT
#291
On January 11 2012 22:33 nerak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 07:59 stebo wrote:
Checking the recent posts I can see someone already posted a link to my thread. Thank you. ^^ oi


Thank you, mighty lord of idiots.


Wtf is this? Is this an insult or am I missing something?
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
January 11 2012 19:06 GMT
#292
On January 12 2012 04:03 willoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 22:33 nerak wrote:
On January 11 2012 07:59 stebo wrote:
Checking the recent posts I can see someone already posted a link to my thread. Thank you. ^^ oi


Thank you, mighty lord of idiots.


Wtf is this? Is this an insult or am I missing something?


i think he means it as in insult

back to lessara: what did she say? sry that i demand to get info but i want moar news about hots sry for my curiosity
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 20:23:00
January 11 2012 20:22 GMT
#293
On January 12 2012 04:06 Denda Reloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 04:03 willoc wrote:
On January 11 2012 22:33 nerak wrote:
On January 11 2012 07:59 stebo wrote:
Checking the recent posts I can see someone already posted a link to my thread. Thank you. ^^ oi


Thank you, mighty lord of idiots.


Wtf is this? Is this an insult or am I missing something?


i think he means it as in insult


I think you're both missing something.
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
January 11 2012 20:28 GMT
#294
Nice read.

One thing I'd like to mention is: Do you remember the story recap while you installed SC2:WOL? It only covered what happend in Starcraft 1 without the Brood War expansion.
I also remember an interview with I think Metzen (?) where he said that they were not happy with the BW story line in general.

So the question is if Brood War shouldn't just be considered non-canon storywise. It seems like, except the reference to Duran's name and the Spartan mercenaries being tied to the former UED, nothin from Brood War has been mentioned so far.

I could be wrong though
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
January 11 2012 20:51 GMT
#295
That's a major criticism over WoL, TzTz. It' like Brood Wat hadn't happened.

But yes, it is canon. I think they're figuring out their ways to include BW's messy plot into SC2. They mentioned in the last Lore Panel that Stukov is coming back.

Also, Valerian is listening to a version of BroodWar's Aria (that opera-sounding music DuGalle and Stukoc played on a disco in BW opening scene) when Raynor breaks into his room. He is looking throu his battlecruiser's window, just like DuGalle did while listening to the same music.

Cameo? I think so. But maybe, just maybe, its something else. Valerian is an archaeologist. He may have interest in Earth culture, and may have bought things from the survivors of the UED. Or does it shows something else?
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 11 2012 21:22 GMT
#296
On January 12 2012 05:51 nerak wrote:
That's a major criticism over WoL, TzTz. It' like Brood Wat hadn't happened.

But yes, it is canon. I think they're figuring out their ways to include BW's messy plot into SC2. They mentioned in the last Lore Panel that Stukov is coming back.

Also, Valerian is listening to a version of BroodWar's Aria (that opera-sounding music DuGalle and Stukoc played on a disco in BW opening scene) when Raynor breaks into his room. He is looking throu his battlecruiser's window, just like DuGalle did while listening to the same music.

Cameo? I think so. But maybe, just maybe, its something else. Valerian is an archaeologist. He may have interest in Earth culture, and may have bought things from the survivors of the UED. Or does it shows something else?


I'm willing to wager that it's a cameo since my cynical view of Blizzard shows that Blizzard would've just wanted to capitalize on the nostalgia dollar.

Logically however, it's clear that it just characterizes the bond between Raynor and Valerian.
kiss kiss fall in love
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
January 11 2012 22:34 GMT
#297
The most sad thing is the cheesy, very stupid, idiotic leaked hots ending seems to be about right. in the cin trailer there is a scene from it thats the same.. ((( Its worse then the wol ending and i almost cried after that. Zerg supposed to be evil. badass, and treacherous i hope the writers feel the same
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 11 2012 22:42 GMT
#298
On January 12 2012 07:34 Ottoxlol wrote:
The most sad thing is the cheesy, very stupid, idiotic leaked hots ending seems to be about right. in the cin trailer there is a scene from it thats the same.. ((( Its worse then the wol ending and i almost cried after that. Zerg supposed to be evil. badass, and treacherous i hope the writers feel the same


Yeah, I'm still not pleased by the ending.
kiss kiss fall in love
stebo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 00:08:40
January 11 2012 23:53 GMT
#299
On January 11 2012 22:33 nerak wrote:This seems very good, buy do you mean she boards the Leviathan, or you talk to her only in Char? Do you remember anything specific she says after the missions?

There was no Leviathan on Char nor in the possesion of Kerrigan or Za'Gara.

Za'Gara seems to be very doubtful of her queen, Kerrigan, now that she is uninfested. After Kerrigan spares her life and she becomes an NPC, serving as a commander for Kerrigan, their conversations are tense as Za'Gara continus to test Kerrigan's patience. IMO, I smell a possible mutiny!

Za'Gara does however offer her assistance to Kerrigan in anyway she can to improve her brood. She suggests that Kerrigan should find the remaining Brood Mothers (like Na'fash).

One specific thing I remember Za'Gara saying during the demo was that the reason she turned against Kerrigan was because it was Kerrigan who told Za'Gara if she (kerrigan) were to ever become weakened or suppressed, Za'Gara was to challenge her willpower and take her place as Queen of the swarm. Kerrigan, who has amnesia, had no memory of ever telling Za'Gara this. At the end of the mission Za'Gara pleads for Kerrigan to spare her life and that she'll serve under Kerrigan's command once again.

Za'Gara also has a personal strong hatred for the Terran race. This is yet another reason she doubts Kerrigan's power; she has little trust that a human can lead the swarm to victory now that Kerrigan is uninfested.


On January 12 2012 04:06 Denda Reloaded wrote:back to lessara: what did she say? sry that i demand to get info but i want moar news about hots sry for my curiosity


I can't remember everything she said, but here's what happened...

After completing Silence their Cries, Kerrigan is informed that there are a few Protoss survivors. Kerrigan decides to spare their lives and take them to char as 'prisoners'. This is when Lassara is introduced as the only NPC Protoss prisoner we get to see/interact with. Lassara expresses her hatred she has for the Zerg and the Queen of Blades. Kerrigan, now less menacing then she was as Infested Kerrigan, promises that she wont hurt Lassara as she appears to be no threat. As you interact more with Lassara she begins to talk about her research and colony she had on Kaldir. Lassar also starts to gradually open up to Kerrigan despite the hatred she and her race have for her.

One thing I distinctly remember Lassara saying to Kerrigan was: "You've murdered millions of people" in which Kerrigan displayed distraught at Lassara's comment.

Overall, Lassara appears to be fearless and expresses her mind freely at Kerrigan. However, Lassara does cooperate with Kerrigan and even expresses slight gratitude to Kerrigan for sparing the lives of her and the remaining Protoss survivors. Despite only getting to talk to Lassara for a few missions, I would say she seems to be much more confident and optimistic then Hanson was.

Durring the demo I felt that Lassara was touching the empathy and humanity inside Kerrigan, like an angel on Kerrigan's shoulder (similar to Hanson on Raynor's shoulder).


[B]On January 12 2012 04:03 willoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 22:33 nerak wrote:
On January 11 2012 07:59 stebo wrote:
Checking the recent posts I can see someone already posted a link to my thread. Thank you. ^^ oi


Thank you, mighty lord of idiots.


Wtf is this? Is this an insult or am I missing something?


Being a member, moderator, and Community Manager of Sc2armory.com for 4 years, 'Lord of the Idiots' has become my unofficial title in the forums due to my frequent stupidity in the past. It's no insult it's simply an inside joke /w the community.
^^ oi
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 01:18:57
January 12 2012 01:18 GMT
#300
On January 12 2012 08:53 stebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 04:03 willoc wrote:
On January 11 2012 22:33 nerak wrote:
On January 11 2012 07:59 stebo wrote:
Checking the recent posts I can see someone already posted a link to my thread. Thank you. ^^ oi


Thank you, mighty lord of idiots.


Wtf is this? Is this an insult or am I missing something?


Being a member, moderator, and Community Manager of Sc2armory.com for 4 years, 'Lord of the Idiots' has become my unofficial title in the forums due to my frequent stupidity in the past. It's no insult it's simply an inside joke /w the community.


Ah alright! Thanks for explaining that!
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