EPTDubious morals of the Raynor/Tal'darim affair - Page 3
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
Explain how general Warfield and Valarian fit into your image of the dominions inherent evil. Blatantly ignoring these two is a weakness imo. Valerian mensk is not a good person. He will do what he wants to do because he has the founds and the influence and the power to do so. ;P As for General Warfield. He just appears to be a better man than general Duke. This guy will not bat an eye killing civillians if he was ordered to do so, just because he outwardly appears to be a more mannered guy does not mean he would not. YOU DO NOT BECOME general In the dominion army by being kind to children and disobeying direct commands. Though blizzard are not beyond retardation. This campain has proven such at multiple occasions. | ||
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Daliniues
Canada117 Posts
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Billy_
461 Posts
On October 10 2010 14:11 Madkipz wrote: Valerian mensk is not a good person. He will do what he wants to do because he has the founds and the influence and the power to do so. ;P As for General Warfield. He just appears to be a better man than general Duke. This guy will not bat an eye killing civillians if he was ordered to do so, just because he outwardly appears to be a more mannered guy does not mean he would not. YOU DO NOT BECOME general In the dominion army by being kind to children and disobeying direct commands. Though blizzard are not beyond retardation. This campain has proven such at multiple occasions. There is nothing in WoL to indicate that Warfield is a bad guy. There is nothing in the game suggesting he ever worked for Arcturus. He was referred to as the hero of torrace and was brought out of retirement by Valarian. | ||
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buhhy
United States1113 Posts
On October 10 2010 13:59 NastyMarine wrote: Does anyone remember the Zeratul missions at all!? Zeratul clearly states via the first engagement with a rogue Taldarim Stalker. Zeratul was taken back at what the Stalker said. I forget what it was exactly but it had to do with the Purification or Cleansing of other Protoss factions whom of which were against the dark voice/hybri. This particular mission this tribe was responsible for gaurding and allowing the Hybrid to drain the 3 prophet's energy to get stronger. Does anyone play the game? rofl! If you killed a person for money and later found out he's a terrorist, does it make you less guilty? | ||
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
Why is morality such a big discussion on completing a goal that we all know Jim would go to great lengths to achieve (which is bringing back Kerrigan)? That is including killing unidentified Protoss Warbands standing between his fight against Mengsk, his journey to save the human population in the sector from zerg invasion and/or saving his old girl even if only indirectly (like harvesting gas to use against mengsk etc; even if he was unaware of the specters). This discussion is based on whether or not killing was justified based on Raynor being a protagonist which is idiocy, because we already know how brutal the starcraft world/lore is... to troll my post bc my opinion is different based on me actually knowing the lore is fuckin stupid. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On October 09 2010 04:58 MangoTango wrote: Morals don't count when you're the "good guy." Yes, the irony is both recognized and intended. Such a major downturn.  | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:14 101TFP wrote: You all got it wrong, Raynor only attacked the Tal'darim because they possess weapons of mass destruction. haha, this is genius for all of those who don't get it: + Show Spoiler + refers to bush attacking iraq | ||
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D-Lite
United Kingdom223 Posts
its a game | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 09 2010 04:04 ghostunit wrote: > The only reason he did it was money. The artifacts and terrazim gas were of no importance to Raynor other than as merchandise for Tosh and the Moebius Foundation. Only until the last char mission did they turn out to be important, but that doesn't justify the original intent and decision. Funding a rebellion aint for the faint-hearted. | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
His moral code has no room in it for "sacred gas" or "sacred artifacts". As far as he is concerned, anyone opposed to him taking gas because of random spiritual mumbo-jumbo doesn't have an opinion worth considering past "can I get away with it without these nutjobs actually hurting me?". He's a space redneck. That's a perfectly reasonable position for a space redneck to hold, even one that's pretty morally upright. | ||
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VonLego
United States519 Posts
Yeah it drove me batty too. | ||
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bronzeterran
United States296 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On October 10 2010 21:12 D-Lite wrote: heres why i dont have a problem with it. its a game Heres why I have a problem with you. you're a tool. just because its a game doesnt mean blizzard should be so goddamn lazy when it comes to the story, especially given the masterpiece that was the SC1 campaign | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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10or10
Sweden517 Posts
- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128252 | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On October 09 2010 04:04 ghostunit wrote: The only reason he did it was money /.../ terrazim gas were of no importance to Raynor other than as merchandise Steal a valuable commotidy, not available anywhere else from a bunch of religious fanatics, now where on earth might Blizzard have gotten this idea from. | ||
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10or10
Sweden517 Posts
On October 11 2010 05:34 HopLight wrote: Steal a valuable commotidy, not available anywhere else from a bunch of religious fanatics, now where on earth might Blizzard have gotten this idea from. It would be interesting storytelling twist if Blizzard actually turned Raynor into the bad guy... The Protoss campaing are the last, and maybe you will play as the Tel'darim. | ||
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Billy_
461 Posts
On October 11 2010 03:40 VonLego wrote: Seemed like a desperate way to work the artifacts into the storyline. You have to take it from somewhere... guess it has to be the protoss. Make them crazy, 90% of folks won't ask about why they're killing toss. Yeah it drove me batty too. The Tal'Darim are fanatics. Tychus said so. Fanatic has connotations of stuff like the Taliban and world trade centre. 90% of people are smarter than you. | ||
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Tracil
Australia505 Posts
On October 11 2010 09:04 Billy_ wrote: The Tal'Darim are fanatics. Tychus said so. Fanatic has connotations of stuff like the Taliban and world trade centre. 90% of people are smarter than you. You are being sarcastic, right? My detector is broken or something, please clarify | ||
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