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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
August 06 2010 02:39 GMT
#21
So the goliath looks crappy on settings other than lowest, eh? Do to scourge look crappy on other graphics as well? There was another unit from single player that looks crappy, but I can't remember which. But a lot of the remakes look rushed.
NeoScout
Profile Joined April 2010
United States103 Posts
August 06 2010 17:04 GMT
#22
I was wondering the same thing, they look so bad, so blocky and tall, when I first saw them I thought they were a new unit, I was expecting them to look like they did in starcraft ghost, badass and all. and the attack animation and sound are horrible as well, very disappointed as they were one my favorite units of all time
Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
August 06 2010 21:03 GMT
#23
I think ya'll missed the joke. The operators of Vulture, Goliath, and perhaps a few other BW-era units are really old now. They lack the vigor of their youth and probably aren't looking forward to being cannon fodder in another Zerg war.
What is a dickfour?
Euphemism
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada57 Posts
August 06 2010 21:45 GMT
#24
On August 07 2010 06:03 Gedrah wrote:
I think ya'll missed the joke. The operators of Vulture, Goliath, and perhaps a few other BW-era units are really old now. They lack the vigor of their youth and probably aren't looking forward to being cannon fodder in another Zerg war.


So 4 years is enough to turn a young, idealistic recruit into a bitter old man?
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
August 06 2010 21:58 GMT
#25
On August 07 2010 06:45 Euphemism wrote:
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On August 07 2010 06:03 Gedrah wrote:
I think ya'll missed the joke. The operators of Vulture, Goliath, and perhaps a few other BW-era units are really old now. They lack the vigor of their youth and probably aren't looking forward to being cannon fodder in another Zerg war.


So 4 years is enough to turn a young, idealistic recruit into a bitter old man?


You'd be surprised at what combat can do to you. I mean, look at what these guys have been through over the last four years: Zerg invasions, Confederate power struggles, the overthrow of said Confederacy by equally corrupt Dominion, Protoss planet-glassing, the UED's mad bid for Zerg control, Terran civil wars in general, the birth of the Queen of Blades...

I don't think it's unreasonable to think that veterans from any/all of these events would become jaded and fatigued from it all. Mindless killing, watching your friends die in agony, your homes destroyed by the conflict you got wound up in... It's sobering, on the mind and body.
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The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
August 06 2010 22:32 GMT
#26
I dunno. The Battlecruisers, marines, medics, SCVs, ghosts, siege tanks, and wraiths didn't seem all that affected by 4 years of horror at all.
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 23:48:37
August 06 2010 23:07 GMT
#27

Ebonikizzle
Profile Joined May 2010
44 Posts
August 06 2010 23:56 GMT
#28
I disagree, I think that the goliath model looked fine for a 2D-3D transition, although it took some getting used to because it wasn't the way I imagined it.
The 2D sprite leaves a lot to your imagination.

The decals on the unit show that some time when into it, I think there was 3-4 alternate textures for it, and a walker mech would need to absorb some recoil when firing massive rockets, so I think the bobbing thing is reasonable.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 07 2010 01:46 GMT
#29
some of the units did feel quite shoddy and flimsy. maybe blizz forgot to give themselves enough time and just rushed through some of the campaign units.
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ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
August 07 2010 02:00 GMT
#30
On August 07 2010 07:32 The_Pacifist wrote:
I dunno. The Battlecruisers, marines, medics, SCVs, ghosts, siege tanks, and wraiths didn't seem all that affected by 4 years of horror at all.


the scv got a race change.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 07 2010 02:10 GMT
#31
I think Blizzard is sending BW diehards a message...
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SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
August 07 2010 02:27 GMT
#32
They didnt get a nerf at all. 18 damage auto guns with still that awesom Anti air. Plus attacking air and ground same time with huge AA range is amazing. I would often go MnM with goliths in my campaign missions.
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MagicianYang
Profile Joined July 2010
10 Posts
August 07 2010 02:33 GMT
#33
I agree, when I first played through the campaign and saw it, I thought "Wth is this crap?" It looks way less powerful than in SC1 and the missiles aren't as cool looking. The only thing that I think is cool is that you can get the upgrade that allows you to fire ground and air simultaneously.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
August 07 2010 02:51 GMT
#34
Goliath appearance in SC2 sucks. Only redeeming thing about their appearance is that they got like 3-4 different skins.

I don't mind the SOUND of the new goliath, I think it's actually a nice change, while still keeping a REALLY similar feel. The problem I have is you can't understand ANYTHING the goliath is saying! The only reason you can for most of what he says (until the later part of the annoyed messages) is because they are the same speech as SC1, so you know what to expect him to say.

The portrait looks really stupid too, yeah but I care about that the least.

Vulture, totally lost all uniqueness/coolness to the voice. Wraith was never cool to me, but I don't think I heard the SC2 voice (much at least).
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GiantEnemyCrab
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada503 Posts
August 07 2010 03:04 GMT
#35
On August 07 2010 11:00 ramen247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 07:32 The_Pacifist wrote:
I dunno. The Battlecruisers, marines, medics, SCVs, ghosts, siege tanks, and wraiths didn't seem all that affected by 4 years of horror at all.


the scv got a race change.


but the scv from bw got promoted to a maradur pretty good they were so good the new rednecks are weaker 45 hp -_-
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ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 03:20:40
August 07 2010 03:20 GMT
#36
Yeah I didnt like it either. Maybe they just wanted a quick effortless "wink wink" tribute to sc1 units.. . Prolly just an excuse to put their buddies' faces as portraits, without putting them on main character/units..

Haha, scv race change. Reminds me, there's a severe lack of asians in space :0
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PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 07 2010 03:38 GMT
#37
On August 06 2010 07:34 Chuiu wrote:
Not just the Goliath. The Vulture and Wraith feel like shells of their former selves also, Blizzard nerfed them big time when they brought them to SC2 and I think its because they want us to use the newer units.

Though I felt like Firebat, Medic, and Science Vessel were stronger than in Brood War and would love to see them back in multiplayer.

Firebat would be way too good in MP. It'd be a hellion that could tank for your bioball while your M&M ball ripped units to shreds.


Science Vessel would be absolutely absurd in Terran mech vs Zerg. Irradiate plus heals mech units?
PeT[uK]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States412 Posts
August 07 2010 03:51 GMT
#38
the spider mine animation was terrible too. so small and stupid looking
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Apollys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States278 Posts
August 07 2010 04:00 GMT
#39
Anyone know if you get the upgrade in single player that allows goliaths to attack air and ground simultaneously, if you order a goliath to attack a colossus will he shoot it and fire missiles at the same time?
When you're feeling down, I'll be there to feel you up!
SBelmont
Profile Joined August 2008
United States122 Posts
August 07 2010 04:22 GMT
#40
On August 06 2010 10:42 nttea wrote:
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On August 06 2010 09:15 sev1 wrote:
Vulture is depressed that he got left out of multiplayer That, or he ran out of stimpacks.

Also on the topic of unit aesthetics, I think that they did the best job with the Science Vessel. God, that guy pissed me off in BW, but now he's some crazy robotic mad scientist. Awesome.

Anyways, I don't really think I would utilize Goliaths in multiplayer. Vikings are just ridiculously good against armored-air, they're way more mobile, and they have the potential to harass or deny ridiculously well. Thors fit the role of anti-light-air very well with their splash, and are powerful damage soakers on the ground as well. Plus, the model is really, really ugly, it's really round looking and simple compared to terran's other more blocky and detailed units.

wtf HOW CAN YOU PICK THAT NEW GUY OVER FUCKING MR.BURNS PILOTING UR VESSELS

My thoughts exactly about the Science Vessels

As for Goliaths, my main army composition in Campaign consisted of Marines, Medics, Marauders, and Goliaths. Goliaths with both upgrades are really good at dealing with a combination of ground and air when they support Marine/Marauder. I never focused on them though, only spare resources went into them. They still had a good bang for their buck though.
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