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Ganches
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden33 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 10:55:29
August 02 2010 10:53 GMT
#101
I haven't played all missions yet on brutal(about halfway), but how can some of you say the last toss mission was so hard? Just spam nothing but colossi and you can pretty much afk all achievements/bonuses on brutal.

Edit: Utter darkness is the last toss mission, yes? I always forget the names. >_< Seriously easy level.
Rea
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 10:55:47
August 02 2010 10:54 GMT
#102
Engine of Destruction if you do it early in the campaign (no orbital command/siege tanks/banshee/vessel/techreactor) > all in with air > all in with nydus > supernova > all > Engine of Destruction if you do it late (damn easy with vessel/siege tanks and some anti air)



i had no problems with final toss missions either, just spam collossus until you get carrier, waste the remaining minerals on cannons... pretty easy
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Jdanzi
Profile Joined March 2010
England78 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 10:54:56
August 02 2010 10:54 GMT
#103
On August 01 2010 23 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              01 2010 23      end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              01 2010 23      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:13 zer0das wrote:
Super Nova is super easy once you figure out you can just skirt the northern edge of the map and there's nothing to stopping you (as long as you have enough vikings) from killing the structure at the end. The archons even conveniently get trapped behind a pylon.

Maw of the Void gave me serious serious problems because I decided to repair my battlecruisers and not use science vessels until it was too late and I had burned a ton of gas. Is this mission even beatable without science vessels on brutal? I don't think it is... (I'm going to try this at some point- because I hate myself).

But I think All-in is the hardest, then in Utter Darkness.


Maw of the Void is really quite easy, although I had science vessles I just spammed upgraded bc - didn't need any other ships -and a moved the map and repaired after each thing went down. While excess minerals going to make mass marines in my main base just incase some protoss forces managed to slip past my bc wall.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 02 2010 10:59 GMT
#104
So far it looks like In Utter Darkness for me when I want to protect the archive. I'm making colossi and lifting up hybrids with phoenixes, and the archives are now getting overrun with 16:30 minutes to go before Void Rays have shown up. On hard I got 2650 kills first try, this Brutal try I'm lucky if I pass 700.
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Rea
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany88 Posts
August 02 2010 11:00 GMT
#105
regarding gates of hell
i just build some siegetanks, loaded them into 4 hercules, flew through and sieged the nydus from warfields base :D
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Ganches
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden33 Posts
August 02 2010 12:37 GMT
#106
Also, I just finished Brutal Supernova and got it on first try.

Really, it's so weird how people feel so differently about the missions.
I thought Fall of haven was super hard if you went to it directly, but utter darkness and Supernova were piece of cake to beat in 1 try.
Supernova was basically just go at the bottom, spam MM + banshees and watch out for high templars storming you to death in 2 seconds...
Utter darkness = Colossi spam and afk win.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 02 2010 16:35 GMT
#107
Supernova wins this prize. All In is pretty hard if you don't use the artifact, although once I carefully planned out my strategy, I was able to do it without an activation or even lifting all my shit and putting it on the island.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
August 02 2010 17:09 GMT
#108
I found supernova pretty easy.

I found the last mission to be the hardest (while fighting air). I didn't have enough credits for the turret barrage which I wish I had.
smoorn
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland66 Posts
August 02 2010 17:17 GMT
#109
On August 02 2010 21:37 Ganches wrote:
Also, I just finished Brutal Supernova and got it on first try.

Really, it's so weird how people feel so differently about the missions.
I thought Fall of haven was super hard if you went to it directly, but utter darkness and Supernova were piece of cake to beat in 1 try.
Supernova was basically just go at the bottom, spam MM + banshees and watch out for high templars storming you to death in 2 seconds...
Utter darkness = Colossi spam and afk win.


colossi spam?.. what about broodlords and mutas then?
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
August 02 2010 19:45 GMT
#110
for me hardest definitly All in, becouse i chose the hive mind emulator, so no psi disrupter, about utter darkness>>>>> Imortals, np, even with archive alive, in Engine of destruction i managed to get loki killed and yet maanged to keep odin alive, took me 2 restarts :D
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Ganches
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden33 Posts
August 02 2010 20:01 GMT
#111
On August 03 2010 02:17 smoorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 21:37 Ganches wrote:
Also, I just finished Brutal Supernova and got it on first try.

Really, it's so weird how people feel so differently about the missions.
I thought Fall of haven was super hard if you went to it directly, but utter darkness and Supernova were piece of cake to beat in 1 try.
Supernova was basically just go at the bottom, spam MM + banshees and watch out for high templars storming you to death in 2 seconds...
Utter darkness = Colossi spam and afk win.


colossi spam?.. what about broodlords and mutas then?



That's very simple.

You get some heroes like phoenixes, void rays and carriers for any air, but there really aren't many broodlords appearing on this mission so it's no big problem.
Mutas kinda die to cannons, lol.

Like 97% or somethin is just pure ground and colossi demolishes absolutely everything there ranging from zerglings all the way to hybrids. Everything dies instantly to them.

So yeah, you can semi-afk this mission as long as you keep producing colossus and you'll get all achievements and research on brutal.
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
August 02 2010 20:44 GMT
#112
In terms of pure frustration caused for me it has to be Haven's Fall, although (as usual), once I figured out the trick it became astonishingly easy.

All-in is easily the hardest when you know the trick to it.
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Ganches
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden33 Posts
August 02 2010 20:48 GMT
#113
On August 03 2010 05:44 kzn wrote:
In terms of pure frustration caused for me it has to be Haven's Fall, although (as usual), once I figured out the trick it became astonishingly easy.

All-in is easily the hardest when you know the trick to it.



Would you mind telling me that trick of yours for Haven's Fall?

I've already beaten that mission, but I had to play ahead a couple of other missions and get banshees to beat it.
It was super easy then, but with just vikings in air it felt too hard and I failed. :/
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
August 02 2010 20:50 GMT
#114
The trick is to get a medium-sized mass of vikings asap, and use those to clear infections before they actually take hold. If you do that, you barely need any base defense at all, and you can just mass up a bio ball until you feel safe attacking the actual bases.

Its when you let the infections happen that you end up dealing with a stupidly hard amount of pressure, and thats what I was doing at first.
Like a G6
Ganches
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden33 Posts
August 02 2010 21:48 GMT
#115
On August 03 2010 05:50 kzn wrote:
The trick is to get a medium-sized mass of vikings asap, and use those to clear infections before they actually take hold. If you do that, you barely need any base defense at all, and you can just mass up a bio ball until you feel safe attacking the actual bases.

Its when you let the infections happen that you end up dealing with a stupidly hard amount of pressure, and thats what I was doing at first.



Ah, I see. I guess I stayed in my base a little too long then.


Anyway, I just finished engine of destruction or w/e it's called with the Odin.

A lot of people say this one was hard too, but I really don't see it.. I just rally all my buildings on the Odin and make sure I have scvs on him.
Spammed some wraith/banshees and it was a complete piece of cake in first try no obstacles to get past or anything.

I mean, I didn't even touch any of my units, they were all basically following Odin and I could keep my screen back in the base the whole game, lol.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
August 03 2010 01:57 GMT
#116
All in by far, I can't even remember which map supernova is.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
August 03 2010 02:27 GMT
#117
based on the number of times i have to load and save during a mission, i have to go with Piercing the Shroud.
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yesitsrob
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom43 Posts
August 03 2010 02:52 GMT
#118
Welcome to the Jungle for me.

Can't really say I had any problems with Engine of Destruction at all, which seems to be a difficult one for a lot of peeps.

Supernova and All-in could be fairly cheesed.
btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
August 03 2010 03:59 GMT
#119
All in sucks, i hate this mission. I spent my entire day from 4pm until midnight (now) doing this mission and I still haven't completed it. I've been to 99.8% more times then I can count, i have 40 saves, 22 auto saves, and I've tried so many freaking different strats, even EXACTLY copying a video step by step and placing my units exactly where he did. He must have not been on brutal like the title said because I got a WAY different outcome.

All in is the worst mission ever created. maybe if I weren't on brutal it wouldn't be bad but dang.
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Certa
Profile Joined July 2010
30 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 07:50:12
August 03 2010 07:33 GMT
#120
Potential spoilers. Please don't read if you are just browsing and haven't played it yet.


I actually did every mission on Brutal before doing them on hard for achievements (if I didn't get the achievements on Brutal). I don't know why. Utter Darkness and All In were both very difficult for me. Darkness was hard for me because I tried doing it with warpgate units, and only had a few colossi. It was actually the first mission I came here for advice for. All In was really difficult, too, so I watched a video and mimicked the build, it was still very satisfying to beat since it took 4 attempts (1st with the method I used got it to 99.9%, then 99.3%, then 98.2%, then a win) I loved the hero-style Zeratul, secret mission and the tunnel missions, loads of fun to try and do it perfectly without losing anything. Must have saved at least 60 times for the hero missions and probably 30 alone for Utter Darkness and about 20 for All In (including hard achievements right after the brutal victory) Engine of Destruction wasn't so bad for me, I got the idea to mass wraiths from someone here on TL when reading about it while taking a break. I just got vikings for the Loki and it was cake.

Media Blitz was very hard for me until I said screw it and cleared everything but the final base, camped my army right outside it, moved 3 specters in, nuked missile turrets, sniped tanks and then a-moved to victory. Of course, I also had to throw two nukes at the pitiful defense attempts when I started taking the tower, but that was more for vengeance than necessity.

For Haven's Fall without banshees (I saw someone ask), I just got MMM and vikings. Hellions are pretty good, as well. Kill the infestation directly east of you first with your 3 vikings, then kill the infestation north of that while building a lot of bunkers in your base, defend the civilians below your base, kill the eastern infestation, mass bunkers/SCVs to repair south part of base, defend the middle civilians, kill the southeastern infestation, defend the northeastern civilians, then pull everything to the south infestation. Use vikings to snipe brood lords and mutas, stim up and carve enough space into the base for your army, then a-move to the western side. Use mercenaries to defend your base if anything sneaks by.

Maw of the Void was pretty annoying for me, I spent 3 hours trying to get the achievement on it (on Brutal for some reason) using the same save and wondering what in the hell I did wrong. Then I remembered a DT died before I saved and started from scratch.
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