EPTTL Fitness Initiative (Weight Loss/Gain) - Page 43
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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Onisparda
Canada516 Posts
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On July 12 2009 17:56 funkie wrote: Maybe Using wristbands will help relief the pain in your hands (they make a little pressure on your wrist, and you feel not as much pain. I used to wear them all the time when practicing (more like OVERpracticing drums) and I went from really bad, to very good, really quick.) Try that. Do you guys know any good wrist exercises? I don't have pain or anything, I just want to make them bigger. | ||
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Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
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AeroGear
Canada652 Posts
Do you guys know any good wrist exercises? I don't have pain or anything, I just want to make them bigger. www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/WristFlexors/BBWristCurl.html Took me 5 seconds to find it on google...I mean CMON! This thread is pretty scary overall. A lot of misinformation, overtraining to speed up results, etc. The trick to being fit and healthy is consistency over a long period. You want muscle mass? Go to your gym's trainer and ask for a program (3-4 times a week; without rest there's no growth and injury risks increases). It is important to change it on a regular basis, say every 3 months for optimal results. You want to burn fat? Cut down on junk food and drinks (and yea alcohol too sadly). Exercise at 70% intensity and for periods longer than 30min. Cardio training is at an higher intensity and focuses on burning sugar reserves rather than fats. My personnal trick on staying slim is running in the morning, before eating breakfast. First few runs will be hell, and you might feel dizzy at the end good news is there's nothing else to burn than fat. | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
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starflash
190 Posts
On July 13 2009 21:49 zizou21 wrote: Today I'm starting to do this for abs http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/91-trey-hardee/192900-2-minute-abs-wallering-around I can't get anywhere close to finish it in one sitting, but thats my goal. gonna try to do it few times a day i was told not to treat abs different to any other muscle i would train this means dont do 100 reps as fast as you can like in that video, exhausting yourself whilst not applying much pressure to the muscles instead ive started doing crunches/situps/wtvr with my legs raised on a couch seat, with a 2kg weight held behind my head by both hands, this seems to work best of my experiments so far (i couldnt do 1 rep today coz it hurt too much) | ||
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XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10856 Posts
 .no sports besides some ping pong now and then. | ||
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Xenixx
United States499 Posts
On July 14 2009 00:08 Onisparda wrote: Im 170cm and weight 145lb overall skinny, and i do simple exercise like pushups and situps just to keep fit and maybe get a little bigger. But the problem is whenever i do my pushups i feel like its my bones that are doing the work, i dont know if you guys know what i mean. Its like most of the work goes to my shoulders, and i feel like i should be able to do more. Is this normal? am i not doing the pushups right? Or am i jus weak the muscle the pushup uses runs from the shoulder to your hips so yes that sounds normal your bones doing the work? i really dont follow, try slowing down, chest to floor, elevate an inch, wait, raise, wait in the position (dont arch back) and repeat. if you get a different feeling let me know - how many pushups are you doing? | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On July 14 2009 04:13 starflash wrote: i was told not to treat abs different to any other muscle i would train this means dont do 100 reps as fast as you can like in that video, exhausting yourself whilst not applying much pressure to the muscles ![[image loading]](http://www.topnews.in/sports/files/images/Trey-Hardee1.jpg) i think this guy knos wat he is doing :< | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On July 13 2009 21:49 zizou21 wrote: Today I'm starting to do this for abs http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/91-trey-hardee/192900-2-minute-abs-wallering-around I can't get anywhere close to finish it in one sitting, but thats my goal. gonna try to do it few times a day If you want abs you need to lift heavy weights, eat clean, and then MAYBE add in some abs exercises edit: jeremy wariner isn't going for aesthetics, and for track where you need to stabilize the core while running at high intensity many repetitions are good. Not so much if you're of average build looking to lose fat from the abdominal regions + get bigger overall. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On July 13 2009 05:47 travis wrote: potatos contain protein but if u dont get enough and work out a lot, your muscles will get smaller as your body disassembles them to repair other muscles Honestly, the whole catabolism/anabolism thing is overblown IMO. If you do 2 hours of cardio you're not going to a lot of muscles nor if you don't eat enough protein. As long as you have the stimulus for muscles your body conserves its resources fairly well even if some are scarce (protein). Although it certainly helps much more if resources are abundant which is why you want 1g/lbs or more if you wanna get bigger. | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5458 Posts
I was really out of shape when I finished university, which was April 2008. Four years of nothing but binge drinking combined with really unhealthy food and a lack of exercise really took its toll. I went from 5'11 and about 165 pounds to 250 pounds by the end of it. However, it wasn't a gradual increase; I went through "healthy" periods and I'd drop weight once a year or so during the summer. I would get a job that would require me to exercise, and I'd combine that with an hour or so bike ride every day. I would typically lose about 20-30 pounds during the summer, and then gain it back within a few months of recommencing binge drinking + devouring pizzas and the like. After first year, I went from 160 to 200, and then back to 175 during the summer. Second year, 175 to 215ish and then to about 190 (motivation was severely lacking) and then in third year, from 190 to 230, down to like 220 because I didn't stop drinking/eating unhealthy, culminating in 250 by the end of my final year. So last May 2008, I began to try and get back into shape. Over that summer, I went from 250-215 by October, which isn't too bad but certainly not my best effort. I was actually doing a postgraduate 4-month program, and I lived in residence ... (new school), so there was drinking, but I limited it quite significantly (we used to drink 6 nights a week in university — maybe once a week at this new school) and did my best to add in weight training where I could. November - March I couldn't bike ride obviously, and I just tried to eat really healthy. I eventually got a job that lead me to walk an hour each day, which surprisingly made me lose some weight (or it felt like it). Overall, I was pleased that I didn't gain any weight over the winter months. So now since April I've been doing my best to get into really good shape. I increased my bike ride to an hour and a half (up from an hour) and going as hard as I can, and I was doing those silly 100-pushup, 200 situp programs for a while, but I didn't find that they did much if anything besides increase my overall endurance (which is certainly helpful, I guess) I'm now down to about 190 (188 if you want to be exact). Couldn't tell ya how good it felt to fit into my old suit (I hadn't worn it in like 3 years) and a bunch of my old pants/shorts. I just randomly found a bunch of them and started trying them on, and was pleased they all fit! Last week, I finally got an actual gym membership (I found it difficult to pay for one! I was so used to it being included in my school tuition) and I've begun that. SO. I've been pouring over bodybuilding.com like it's going out of style, and I'm having a hard time nailing down which workout to do. I've only gone 3 times (membership started last Thursday, and I went away for the weekend) and so far I did: Day 1 (chest/shoulders was the idea, with some back) Bench Military press Inclined bench Back rows The other kind of row (for your shoulder) Lateral raises Lateral pulldowns Day 2 (legs/arms) Squat Leg press Calf raises Hip/groin thing Leg curls (both up and down? Forget the proper terms) Bicep curls Day 1 again yesterday, minus lateral raises. As you can probably tell, I am somewhat clueless on a lot of things. My back sometimes aches really bad for no reason, so I'm hesitant to try deadlifts, as I'm sure my form will be bad (no matter how many videos I watch) and I'll hurt myself. Tomorrow when I go back to do my legs/arms, I'll try 'em out though. I'm not even sure what kind of questions I want to be asking ... but I will say that there are so many damn guides everywhere I look, I'm finding it really difficult to figure out what workout I should really be doing; and more importantly, how often. I see things like do "workout A, B, A one week, then switch it up and do B, A, B" etc. Or some are like "A, B, A, B" etc. Some say do A one day, B the next, rest two days then repeat. Kinda frustrating me! Any random advice/tips you guys can think of would be greatly appreciated. Specifically, which areas I should work on each day, how many times per week, and how much rest in-between, really. Any diet advice for someone still trying to lose weight is always helpful. I know the generic stuff, like try and get as much protein as I can, keep out refined sugars/wheat/alcohol, don't be afraid to have some good fats in your diet for energy but don't go crazy, etc. My typical diet right now is something like this: Lots of water throughout the day; typically 3 litres or so. Cereal and milk for breakfast, or oatmeal, or eggs. I should probably just do eggs, I know. Not being in charge of groceries and being unemployed without too much money is really hurting me, though. Maybe an apple or grapes or cheese or almonds for mid-morning "snack". Lunch... I usually do what I call a "poor man's sandwich", essentially I take a slice of deli-style cheese (Havarti etc.) and wrap it around a few slices of deli meat and just eat that. I'm really trying to cut out bread from my diet. Ironically, bread is the cheapest part of the sandwich, so I'm not sure what I call it a "poor man's sandwich". Sometimes soup (chicken gumbo! I know the sodium is bad, though) or if I do eat bread, tuna salad or egg salad. Mid-afternoon snack, similar to mid-morning. Glass of milk maybe added in. Maybe some crackers (ugh - bad, I know) Dinner ... veggies/meat/potatoes almost every time. I think my dinner is good. So yeah ... I was kind of all over the place there. I essentially want to get my body fat percentage as low as possible. Somewhere between 10-15% would be great, but who knows how possible that would be. Certainly not within 6 months, probably. Anyway, I'll just click post and see if any of you care to respond.  | ||
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Nazarene
Denmark996 Posts
On July 16 2009 04:31 SoleSteeler wrote: Long text Just checked your profile to see how old you were since you said you weren't in charge of the groceries, and it turns out we're exactly the same age  a little curiosityAnyway, I'll try and help where I can. This is probably gonna get pretty messy, but so was your post :p First, it's hard to say, without any pictures to look at, what you should be doing right now to see some results - lifting with some cardio/pure cardio/pure lifting... here is my lifting schedule: My workouts: Workout 1: Chest/tricep/shoulder Workout 2: Bicep/back/abs Workout 3: Legs I usually work out 6 times a week, that means 2 x each workout per week. I think the muscles get the needed rest once you're used to working out that much. Once I don't feel I see any gains in how much I lift/no soreness whatsoever after each workout, I switch it up: Sometimes I just do the individual exercises in another order, or I do other exercises that exercise the same muscles. I usually do 3 x 12. Once I can actually do 3 x 12 with a particular weight, it means it's too easy and I add weight the next time. Sometimes I switch the number of reps up, so I might do either 3 x 8 or 3 x 10. It's important to stress your muscles as much as you possible can! I am pretty strict with resting between sets, and only allow myself to rest for 1 minute, and push myself 100% each set. If you don't give yourself 100% you will come to a point where nothing happens. I can post the specific programme if you want to see. As for what you should eat: I won't get into the specifics, but here are a couple of general tips: Don't drink calories - only eat them. Add vegetables to every meal, but switch it out with fruit for breakfast if you don't feel like eating vegetables for breakfast - I know I don't. Reduce intake of potatoes/rice/other food with starch (sugar) (replace with vegetables). Increase intake of high protein, low fat foods such as chicken/turkey/tuna/steak. Reduce portion size. Don't starve yourself, that's a bad way of losing weight since it's only a matter of time before you go on a candy/chocolate/chips binge. If you feel hungry but don't think that you should be hungry already, eat vegetables (yeah I know, a lot of vegetables). Begin counting calories if you don't see your weight going down. I hope that helps a little. I am glad to answer any questions. | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
On July 15 2009 13:52 eshlow wrote: If you want abs you need to lift heavy weights, eat clean, and then MAYBE add in some abs exercises edit: jeremy wariner isn't going for aesthetics, and for track where you need to stabilize the core while running at high intensity many repetitions are good. Not so much if you're of average build looking to lose fat from the abdominal regions + get bigger overall. Just fyi, that's not Jeremy Wariner, It's Trey Hardee, a decathlete. But yeah, the ab workouts that track athletes do are for endurance, not for six packs. zizou21 didn't state his goal though so who knows. Sometimes people see someone do something and they just wanna do it too :D | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5458 Posts
On July 16 2009 06:46 Nazarene wrote: + Show Spoiler + Just checked your profile to see how old you were since you said you weren't in charge of the groceries, and it turns out we're exactly the same age a little curiosityAnyway, I'll try and help where I can. This is probably gonna get pretty messy, but so was your post :p First, it's hard to say, without any pictures to look at, what you should be doing right now to see some results - lifting with some cardio/pure cardio/pure lifting... here is my lifting schedule: My workouts: Workout 1: Chest/tricep/shoulder Workout 2: Bicep/back/abs Workout 3: Legs I usually work out 6 times a week, that means 2 x each workout per week. I think the muscles get the needed rest once you're used to working out that much. Once I don't feel I see any gains in how much I lift/no soreness whatsoever after each workout, I switch it up: Sometimes I just do the individual exercises in another order, or I do other exercises that exercise the same muscles. I usually do 3 x 12. Once I can actually do 3 x 12 with a particular weight, it means it's too easy and I add weight the next time. Sometimes I switch the number of reps up, so I might do either 3 x 8 or 3 x 10. It's important to stress your muscles as much as you possible can! I am pretty strict with resting between sets, and only allow myself to rest for 1 minute, and push myself 100% each set. If you don't give yourself 100% you will come to a point where nothing happens. I can post the specific programme if you want to see. As for what you should eat: I won't get into the specifics, but here are a couple of general tips: Don't drink calories - only eat them. Add vegetables to every meal, but switch it out with fruit for breakfast if you don't feel like eating vegetables for breakfast - I know I don't. Reduce intake of potatoes/rice/other food with starch (sugar) (replace with vegetables). Increase intake of high protein, low fat foods such as chicken/turkey/tuna/steak. Reduce portion size. Don't starve yourself, that's a bad way of losing weight since it's only a matter of time before you go on a candy/chocolate/chips binge. If you feel hungry but don't think that you should be hungry already, eat vegetables (yeah I know, a lot of vegetables). Begin counting calories if you don't see your weight going down. Unfortunately I don't have any before pictures, but here is what I look like now, after working out 5-7 times a week for around a year now (I workout constantly, motivation to diet goes up and down :p): + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/anderslundgaard/IMG_0846.jpg) Maybe my shorts are a little too low Note: I feel like a douche posting pictures of myself flexing, but it's just to show that it actually helps if you do it the right way. I hope that helps a little. I am glad to answer any questions. Thanks a bunch. I lived away from home for 4 years while at university, but right when I finished we had that economic crash, so I haven't been able to hold a real job (internships yes!) and I've had to move back with my parents. Thus not having complete control over the groceries. I am moving out in a couple months though, that should help a lot.As for what I look like ... well, I have a pretty large frame ... I've never been a small guy, that's for sure. I have a belly, but it's certainly shrunk considerably (losing 60 pounds will do that) as well as fat in my legs, face, arms etc. (thus being able to fit into my old clothes). Broad shoulders, all that. I'd say most of my excess weight is concentrated in my belly though. Sorry, I don't think that really helps you much. I'll take a gander at what you wrote and see where I can go from there. | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On July 16 2009 06:50 Liquid`NonY wrote: Just fyi, that's not Jeremy Wariner, It's Trey Hardee, a decathlete. But yeah, the ab workouts that track athletes do are for endurance, not for six packs. zizou21 didn't state his goal though so who knows. Sometimes people see someone do something and they just wanna do it too :D :D | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On July 16 2009 06:50 Liquid`NonY wrote: Just fyi, that's not Jeremy Wariner, It's Trey Hardee, a decathlete. But yeah, the ab workouts that track athletes do are for endurance, not for six packs. zizou21 didn't state his goal though so who knows. Sometimes people see someone do something and they just wanna do it too :D LOL, damn, I just saw a white track guy and assumed it was Wariner. (Didn't even look at his face which would've told me it wasn't him). | ||
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The Storyteller
Singapore2486 Posts
On July 16 2009 04:31 SoleSteeler wrote: As you can probably tell, I am somewhat clueless on a lot of things. My back sometimes aches really bad for no reason, so I'm hesitant to try deadlifts, as I'm sure my form will be bad (no matter how many videos I watch) and I'll hurt myself. Tomorrow when I go back to do my legs/arms, I'll try 'em out though. If you're worried, why not ask around and see if any of your friends are into bodybuilding or weightlifting? You might even find a personal trainer. Then just buy them dinner or something in return for teaching you to deadlift properly. If you can't, then maybe ask one of the more experienced guys in your gym if they can help you out for a few minutes. Whether it's deadlifting or riding a bicycle or any other skill, I find that asking is the best and safest way to get help. There are some really nice peple out there and it's worth it to save on time and avoid injury. | ||
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