On January 18 2009 19:02 Kunty wrote: you guys ought to stop focusing on weight lifting... that is not a great way to go from unhealthy SC nerd into healthy SC nerd. people with weak hearts and blood circulation should not "jump into" bench pressing. instead start with basic stretches, push ups and situps. when you can do 50 push ups in a row then consider bench pressing. yoga and streching is better for those insterested in getting healthy.
wow... that's some high requirements for starting bench.
You know it's almost impossible to do 50 consecutive push-ups right? Push-ups have almost nothing to do with anything other than push-ups.
Lol ? With a bit of training 50 push ups is definitly not that hard ...
many of you guys don't even know wtf you are doing................ you don't have to go the gym lift weights to lose weight, all you need is Tabata, I lost 30lbs doing that hardcore. I find a lot of hypocrites here who want to do something but never have the determination and commitment to do it and even if they do, they do it wrong and think they are right.
For the push ups, it is a great starter exercise( doesn't help you lose weight, neither does bench presss) to build chest strength, triceps, core stability, delts. Once you can do a lot of it, as well as sit ups, free standing squats..... you can move onto weight lifting. Again this does not help you lose weight, you have to remember if you want to lose weight, you have to burn more calories than you consume, put in lay man's term, calory deficit. Don't go to the gym because of hype and everyone else does it, they do it for whole different purpose.
Weight lifting should be used when you want to tone your body and increase muscle mass(get bigger) this is gonna take years to see good results, if you have determination and committed to it. It is not something you do whenever you want, or do 6 months of shitty half ass job in the gym and expect magic to happen.
On January 19 2009 00:05 ilovehnk wrote: many of you guys don't even know wtf you are doing................ you don't have to go the gym lift weights to lose weight, all you need is Tabata, I lost 30lbs doing that hardcore. I find a lot of hypocrites here who want to do something but never have the determination and commitment to do it and even if they do, they do it wrong and think they are right.
For the push ups, it is a great starter exercise( doesn't help you lose weight, neither does bench presss) to build chest strength, triceps, core stability, delts. Once you can do a lot of it, as well as sit ups, free standing squats..... you can move onto weight lifting. Again this does not help you lose weight, you have to remember if you want to lose weight, you have to burn more calories than you consume, put in lay man's term, calory deficit. Don't go to the gym because of hype and everyone else does it, they do it for whole different purpose.
Weight lifting should be used when you want to tone your body and increase muscle mass(get bigger) this is gonna take years to see good results, if you have determination and committed to it. It is not something you do whenever you want, or do 6 months of shitty half ass job in the gym and expect magic to happen.
and 50 push ups? I don't even feel it.
Whats tabata? :p On topic: I'll try to get my pull up reps up (heh^^) same with squats en shizzle
I intentionally put Tabata there without any explanation is to see whether people are lazy enough to not even look it up by themselves. How can you be successful at accomplishing your "physical" goals when you are so lazy, don't even wanna type the word into google....... let alone those advanced and detail stuff about weight lifting, proper nutrition, and cardio?
On January 19 2009 00:54 ilovehnk wrote: I intentionally put Tabata there without any explanation is to see whether people are lazy enough to not even look it up by themselves. How can you be successful at accomplishing your "physical" goals when you are so lazy, don't even wanna type the word into google....... let alone those advanced and detail stuff about weight lifting, proper nutrition, and cardio?
Is this what you're talking about? 4 minutes a day and you're gonna lose all that weight?
Apart from the 4 mins thing it seems to just be HIIT. If that's not it, would you mind elaborating please?
On January 19 2009 00:54 ilovehnk wrote: I intentionally put Tabata there without any explanation is to see whether people are lazy enough to not even look it up by themselves. How can you be successful at accomplishing your "physical" goals when you are so lazy, don't even wanna type the word into google....... let alone those advanced and detail stuff about weight lifting, proper nutrition, and cardio?
Is this what you're talking about? 4 minutes a day and you're gonna lose all that weight?
Apart from the 4 mins thing it seems to just be HIIT. If that's not it, would you mind elaborating please?
Tabata work out was sprints only, but people modified it into lame stuff like jumping ropes or push ups, biking etc.... those are nowhere near the intensity compared to sprints at max speed. It is just 4min, but look at what you are doing in 4 minutes.... sprint at max speed for 20s, rest 10s and repeat that 8 times. The key here is do it on empty stomach in the morning after you wake up, this is not just any HIIT. I did that 2 years ago in summer and lost 30lbs, it was extremely difficult, but most rewarding. At same time, change your diet, don't eat the same garbage you were eating for ages, change to lean meat, protein diet, less carbs.
But Tabata Training is a very advanced form of training.Warning!! if you want to try Tabatas they are not for the weak hearted or unconditioned. and NOT for people with no determination, this is gonna take 8 weeks of hard work with absolute commitment in terms of mental and physical.
On January 18 2009 18:18 dka wrote: Wow I didn't knew a thread like this existed, awesomeness.
Age: 21 Height: 5"11' Current Weight: 220 Goal Weight: 200 Starting Date: Jan 18 Goal Date: June 1
So real quick question, since I'm trying to lose weight, I was wondering if Clif bars are any good? I mainly munch on it after a workout or when I'm hungry during the middle of a day. Also, I want to lose weight (primary goal) and gain strength (secondary goal), what type of exercises are recommended(besides a lot of running haha)? I haven't read the links on page 1, but will do so now, so excuse the rather vague questions
Uh, what's the nutrition facts on those? It's probably better to snack on a fruits, vegetables or nuts..
Loosing weight is mostly through diet. So if it's not working within a couple weeks you know you gotta change up something. A pound or so a week is good weight loss so it's not going to be anything drastic unless you're morbidly obese.
As for strength... weightlifting. Deadlifts, squats, possibly some Oly, bench, dips, overhead press, rows, pullups, etc. Compound exercises.
On January 18 2009 18:18 dka wrote: Wow I didn't knew a thread like this existed, awesomeness.
Age: 21 Height: 5"11' Current Weight: 220 Goal Weight: 200 Starting Date: Jan 18 Goal Date: June 1
So real quick question, since I'm trying to lose weight, I was wondering if Clif bars are any good? I mainly munch on it after a workout or when I'm hungry during the middle of a day. Also, I want to lose weight (primary goal) and gain strength (secondary goal), what type of exercises are recommended(besides a lot of running haha)? I haven't read the links on page 1, but will do so now, so excuse the rather vague questions
Uh, what's the nutrition facts on those? It's probably better to snack on a fruits, vegetables or nuts..
Loosing weight is mostly through diet. So if it's not working within a couple weeks you know you gotta change up something. A pound or so a week is good weight loss so it's not going to be anything drastic unless you're morbidly obese.
As for strength... weightlifting. Deadlifts, squats, possibly some Oly, bench, dips, overhead press, rows, pullups, etc. Compound exercises.
Again, don't eat carbs(fruits, vegetables etc...) it is ok to eat nuts, they are good. Your body uses glucose as primary energy sources, but you want it to use fat, that is why you have to limit your carb intake to eat protein oriented diet.
As I have said before, if you want to lose weight, create calory deficit, in other words, measure all the stuff you eat in terms of calories and increase calory expenditure. There is no easy way to lose weight especially you are super heavy, you have to stop eating so much, cut back on carbs, eat more proteins(lean meat), do more intense cardio. Whether if you will be successful totally depends on how committed and determined you are. If you always look for easy way out, you will fail, might as well stop right now and continue with your old life style, if you want to succeed, do whatever it takes, say no to beer, gf, friends, fucking lose the fat first, know your priority.
On January 19 2009 00:54 ilovehnk wrote: I intentionally put Tabata there without any explanation is to see whether people are lazy enough to not even look it up by themselves. How can you be successful at accomplishing your "physical" goals when you are so lazy, don't even wanna type the word into google....... let alone those advanced and detail stuff about weight lifting, proper nutrition, and cardio?
Is this what you're talking about? 4 minutes a day and you're gonna lose all that weight?
Apart from the 4 mins thing it seems to just be HIIT. If that's not it, would you mind elaborating please?
Tabata work out was sprints only, but people modified it into lame stuff like jumping ropes or push ups, biking etc.... those are nowhere near the intensity compared to sprints at max speed. It is just 4min, but look at what you are doing in 4 minutes.... sprint at max speed for 20s, rest 10s and repeat that 8 times. The key here is do it on empty stomach in the morning after you wake up, this is not just any HIIT. I did that 2 years ago in summer and lost 30lbs, it was extremely difficult, but most rewarding. At same time, change your diet, don't eat the same garbage you were eating for ages, change to lean meat, protein diet, less carbs.
But Tabata Training is a very advanced form of training.Warning!! if you want to try Tabatas they are not for the weak hearted or unconditioned. and NOT for people with no determination, this is gonna take 8 weeks of hard work with absolute commitment in terms of mental and physical.
You got a pretty aggressive attitude there... but when you're talking tabata you should at least know the study where it originated from because you are wrong that it originates from sprints. Sprinting is, however, the most effective form of HIIT though so I would recommend it with running.
This study consists of two training experiments using a mechanically braked cycle ergometer. First, the effect of 6 wk of moderate-intensity endurance training (intensity: 70% of maximal oxygen uptake (VO2max), 60 min.d-1, 5 d.wk-1) on the anaerobic capacity (the maximal accumulated oxygen deficit) and VO2max was evaluated. After the training, the anaerobic capacity did not increase significantly (P > 0.10), while VO2max increased from 53 +/- 5 ml.kg-1 min-1 to 58 +/- 3 ml.kg-1.min-1 (P < 0.01) (mean +/- SD). Second, to quantify the effect of high-intensity intermittent training on energy release, seven subjects performed an intermittent training exercise 5 d.wk-1 for 6 wk. The exhaustive intermittent training consisted of seven to eight sets of 20-s exercise at an intensity of about 170% of VO2max with a 10-s rest between each bout. After the training period, VO2max increased by 7 ml.kg-1.min-1, while the anaerobic capacity increased by 28%. In conclusion, this study showed that moderate-intensity aerobic training that improves the maximal aerobic power does not change anaerobic capacity and that adequate high-intensity intermittent training may improve both anaerobic and aerobic energy supplying systems significantly, probably through imposing intensive stimuli on both systems.
Yeah, the original tabata was on a bike.......
I do agree with diet.. but should be more specific such as -- eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar. Keep intake to levels that will support exercise but not body fat. Fairly simple and straight forward though.. staying away from processed foods = biggest thing because they are calorie dense and just plain unhealthy most of the time.
edit: okay I don't agree with your assessment of eliminating fruits and veges. Carbs are FINE after post workout.. but generally you want to avoid them otherwise, yes. Everything in moderation. However, some people do function better on higher carb diets (genetics), so blanket statements don't really work for nutrition.
P.S. Not everyone has the same goals so... if they want to put on strength while losing fat (vastly inefficient... but can be done) that's up to them. Slight caloric deficient + strength training OR metabolic conditioning/tabatas/HIIT/ really any form of high intensity exercise is going to be a good stimulus for maintaining lean body mass and losing fat. Heck, if you're a novice you'll probably put on some strength and gain some muscle mass while losing fat.
On January 19 2009 03:57 Demoninja wrote: Okay, so I read this lengthy article about GTG and chin ups. I just do something like every hour I have to do 80% of my max push ups and sit ups?
Yeah, more or less. 80% might be high.. cut back if you need to.
On January 19 2009 00:54 ilovehnk wrote: I intentionally put Tabata there without any explanation is to see whether people are lazy enough to not even look it up by themselves. How can you be successful at accomplishing your "physical" goals when you are so lazy, don't even wanna type the word into google....... let alone those advanced and detail stuff about weight lifting, proper nutrition, and cardio?
Is this what you're talking about? 4 minutes a day and you're gonna lose all that weight?
Apart from the 4 mins thing it seems to just be HIIT. If that's not it, would you mind elaborating please?
Tabata work out was sprints only, but people modified it into lame stuff like jumping ropes or push ups, biking etc.... those are nowhere near the intensity compared to sprints at max speed. It is just 4min, but look at what you are doing in 4 minutes.... sprint at max speed for 20s, rest 10s and repeat that 8 times. The key here is do it on empty stomach in the morning after you wake up, this is not just any HIIT. I did that 2 years ago in summer and lost 30lbs, it was extremely difficult, but most rewarding. At same time, change your diet, don't eat the same garbage you were eating for ages, change to lean meat, protein diet, less carbs.
But Tabata Training is a very advanced form of training.Warning!! if you want to try Tabatas they are not for the weak hearted or unconditioned. and NOT for people with no determination, this is gonna take 8 weeks of hard work with absolute commitment in terms of mental and physical.
You got a pretty aggressive attitude there... but when you're talking tabata you should at least know the study where it originated from because you are wrong that it originates from sprints. Sprinting is, however, the most effective form of HIIT though so I would recommend it with running.
This study consists of two training experiments using a mechanically braked cycle ergometer. First, the effect of 6 wk of moderate-intensity endurance training (intensity: 70% of maximal oxygen uptake (VO2max), 60 min.d-1, 5 d.wk-1) on the anaerobic capacity (the maximal accumulated oxygen deficit) and VO2max was evaluated. After the training, the anaerobic capacity did not increase significantly (P > 0.10), while VO2max increased from 53 +/- 5 ml.kg-1 min-1 to 58 +/- 3 ml.kg-1.min-1 (P < 0.01) (mean +/- SD). Second, to quantify the effect of high-intensity intermittent training on energy release, seven subjects performed an intermittent training exercise 5 d.wk-1 for 6 wk. The exhaustive intermittent training consisted of seven to eight sets of 20-s exercise at an intensity of about 170% of VO2max with a 10-s rest between each bout. After the training period, VO2max increased by 7 ml.kg-1.min-1, while the anaerobic capacity increased by 28%. In conclusion, this study showed that moderate-intensity aerobic training that improves the maximal aerobic power does not change anaerobic capacity and that adequate high-intensity intermittent training may improve both anaerobic and aerobic energy supplying systems significantly, probably through imposing intensive stimuli on both systems.
Yeah, the original tabata was on a bike.......
I do agree with diet.. but should be more specific such as -- eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar. Keep intake to levels that will support exercise but not body fat. Fairly simple and straight forward though.. staying away from processed foods = biggest thing because they are calorie dense and just plain unhealthy most of the time.
I NEVER said it originated from sprints, I said it was done with sprints; later on other people modified it into other workouts, trying to look fancy. It originated from speed skaters, Tabata did the experiment with them. Would you rather do Tabata with sprints or speed skating? Speed skating is essentially another form of sprinting but with less resistance. You just randomly searched google and posted it here, at least you should get your shit straight before challenging a pro. This is another reason I don't want to get too detailed here and argue with people, they think they know shit, but they don't.
Some of you have extremely unrealistic goals. 10 pounds in one month?? If you have the perfect workout, with the perfect nutrition you'd gain 1 pound of lean muscle in one week at most. I workout three days a week and run two days a week. My workouts include squats, deadlifts, benchpresses, power cleans, overhead presses, and chinups. My main focus is on form (I have a personal trainer for that) and progressively increasing my weights by 5-10 pounds each time I go to the gym.
I keep track of my diet using fit day. I make sure the total calories I eat is at my BMR and I make sure to burn off at least 500 calories more than that a day through exercise. I eat 6 times a day, every three hours, and my macronutrients consist of 50% carbs, 30% protein and 20% fat. All my carbs are "good carbs" (Low on the glycemic index), my fats and protein are "good" as well. All this and I've been losing about 1.5 pounds a week and gaining 0.7 pounds of muscle a week.
For fat loss, in order of importance I'd rank nutrition>strength training>cardio. Eat six small meals a day. For nutrition, keep track of everything you eat at least for a month or two on fitday.com (It becomes intuitive after a while). You'll see that you've been grossly underestimating or overestimating how many calories, fats, protein you've been consuming on a daily basis. I was consuming 400 less calories of protein than what was recommended. Calculate your BMR and start eating 200 calories less than that. Equally important is your split and where you're getting those calories from. You'll want to be eating 50% carbs, 30% protein and 20% fats. And you'll want all your carbs to be low GI (oatmeal, brown rice, sweet potatoes), your fats to be polysaturated (nuts, olive oil, omega 3), and your meats to be low in saturated fats (chicken breast, tuna, turkey bacon).
To keep track of your progress get a fat caliper, measure your fat/weight and see if you've lost or gained anything in the week. You will make adjustments in your diet or exercises based on this so this may be the most important part. I mean, how can you increase your APM if you don't even know WHAT it is, if you don't have anything that tells you it.
On January 19 2009 06:46 Warrior Madness wrote: Some of you have extremely unrealistic goals. 10 pounds in one month?? If you have the perfect workout, with the perfect nutrition you'd gain 1 pound of lean muscle in one week at most. I workout three days a week and run two days a week. My workouts include squats, deadlifts, benchpresses, power cleans, overhead presses, and chinups. My main focus is on form (I have a personal trainer for that) and progressively increasing my weights by 5-10 pounds each time I go to the gym.
That exactly why I got so aggressive and pissed off, and why I said a lot of people here are hypocrites....
I give you few examples of what I see in the gym and what I know:
1. they don't go do work out because weather is shitty. 2. they don't follow a strict diet and training regime, still partying and drinking as if it's perfectly fine. 3. no dedication and ignorant. 4. making unrealistic goals and too lazy to read few articles. 5. only go work out when their friends go, are you doing it for your friends or for yourself? 6. when people make constructive criticism, they think it is rude and wrong. 7. keep making new resolutions, such as new year's, why can't you tell yourself and start right now? 8. make promises and never keep them, always have legitimate excuses for everything. 9. training doesn't pay off, blame the shit doesn't work. 10. always do one exercise in gym, ie bench press, put on pair of 45lb plates to start off with then can't go higher. 11. doesn't do warm ups, jump straight into weights.
many more, there is no point keep on writing. Just ask yourselves, the people who made those TL fitness initiatives, when are you serious enough to get anything done, or it's just a another thread for hype?
On January 19 2009 00:54 ilovehnk wrote: I intentionally put Tabata there without any explanation is to see whether people are lazy enough to not even look it up by themselves. How can you be successful at accomplishing your "physical" goals when you are so lazy, don't even wanna type the word into google....... let alone those advanced and detail stuff about weight lifting, proper nutrition, and cardio?
Is this what you're talking about? 4 minutes a day and you're gonna lose all that weight?
Apart from the 4 mins thing it seems to just be HIIT. If that's not it, would you mind elaborating please?
Tabata work out was sprints only, but people modified it into lame stuff like jumping ropes or push ups, biking etc.... those are nowhere near the intensity compared to sprints at max speed. It is just 4min, but look at what you are doing in 4 minutes.... sprint at max speed for 20s, rest 10s and repeat that 8 times. The key here is do it on empty stomach in the morning after you wake up, this is not just any HIIT. I did that 2 years ago in summer and lost 30lbs, it was extremely difficult, but most rewarding. At same time, change your diet, don't eat the same garbage you were eating for ages, change to lean meat, protein diet, less carbs.
But Tabata Training is a very advanced form of training.Warning!! if you want to try Tabatas they are not for the weak hearted or unconditioned. and NOT for people with no determination, this is gonna take 8 weeks of hard work with absolute commitment in terms of mental and physical.
You got a pretty aggressive attitude there... but when you're talking tabata you should at least know the study where it originated from because you are wrong that it originates from sprints. Sprinting is, however, the most effective form of HIIT though so I would recommend it with running.
This study consists of two training experiments using a mechanically braked cycle ergometer. First, the effect of 6 wk of moderate-intensity endurance training (intensity: 70% of maximal oxygen uptake (VO2max), 60 min.d-1, 5 d.wk-1) on the anaerobic capacity (the maximal accumulated oxygen deficit) and VO2max was evaluated. After the training, the anaerobic capacity did not increase significantly (P > 0.10), while VO2max increased from 53 +/- 5 ml.kg-1 min-1 to 58 +/- 3 ml.kg-1.min-1 (P < 0.01) (mean +/- SD). Second, to quantify the effect of high-intensity intermittent training on energy release, seven subjects performed an intermittent training exercise 5 d.wk-1 for 6 wk. The exhaustive intermittent training consisted of seven to eight sets of 20-s exercise at an intensity of about 170% of VO2max with a 10-s rest between each bout. After the training period, VO2max increased by 7 ml.kg-1.min-1, while the anaerobic capacity increased by 28%. In conclusion, this study showed that moderate-intensity aerobic training that improves the maximal aerobic power does not change anaerobic capacity and that adequate high-intensity intermittent training may improve both anaerobic and aerobic energy supplying systems significantly, probably through imposing intensive stimuli on both systems.
Yeah, the original tabata was on a bike.......
I do agree with diet.. but should be more specific such as -- eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar. Keep intake to levels that will support exercise but not body fat. Fairly simple and straight forward though.. staying away from processed foods = biggest thing because they are calorie dense and just plain unhealthy most of the time.
I NEVER said it originated from sprints, I said it was done with sprints; later on other people modified it into other workouts, trying to look fancy. It originated from speed skaters, Tabata did the experiment with them. Would you rather do Tabata with sprints or speed skating? Speed skating is essentially another form of sprinting but with less resistance. You just randomly searched google and posted it here, at least you should get your shit straight before challenging a pro. This is another reason I don't want to get too detailed here and argue with people, they think they know shit, but they don't.
No, it wasn't modified into other workouts to look fancy. Tabata did the bike experiment because work and power output are more measurable on an erg. There's no point about writing down anecdotal evidence as a researcher if you can't back it up with the results; hence most experiments use ergs or some other "fairly easy" way to measure results.
And no, I don't randomly search for stuff sorry considering I have these bookmarked. You can be a dick if you want though.
On January 19 2009 06:46 Warrior Madness wrote: Some of you have extremely unrealistic goals. 10 pounds in one month?? If you have the perfect workout, with the perfect nutrition you'd gain 1 pound of lean muscle in one week at most. I workout three days a week and run two days a week. My workouts include squats, deadlifts, benchpresses, power cleans, overhead presses, and chinups. My main focus is on form (I have a personal trainer for that) and progressively increasing my weights by 5-10 pounds each time I go to the gym.
On January 19 2009 06:59 ilovehnk wrote:That exactly why I got so aggressive and pissed off, and why I said a lot of people here are hypocrites....
I give you few examples of what I see in the gym and what I know:
1. they don't go do work out because weather is shitty. 2. they don't follow a strict diet and training regime, still partying and drinking as if it's perfectly fine. 3. no dedication and ignorant. 4. making unrealistic goals and too lazy to read few articles. 5. only go work out when their friends go, are you doing it for your friends or for yourself? 6. when people make constructive criticism, they think it is rude and wrong. 7. keep making new resolutions, such as new year's, why can't you tell yourself and start right now? 8. make promises and never keep them, always have legitimate excuses for everything. 9. training doesn't pay off, blame the shit doesn't work. 10. always do one exercise in gym, ie bench press, put on pair of 45lb plates to start off with then can't go higher. 11. doesn't do warm ups, jump straight into weights.
many more, there is no point keep on writing. Just ask yourselves, the people who made those TL fitness initiatives, when are you serious enough to get anything done, or it's just a another thread for hype?
*facepalm*
Okay seriously. Has anyone in here really written down or linked ANYTHING in the way of how to set proper goals? If someone did that and people were still posting something unrealistic then that's another matter. But if you don't know anything about a topic.. you're suddenly supposed to express realistic goals right away?
Damn. If you wanna complain about it like that AT LEAST write up a post on "how to set proper goals" or link to a post that does. Don't just complain about it. Solve the problem.
Anyway, to stay on topic here's a little something on Goal Setting that everyone can read. If you can do better or find something better, go for it.
Warrior Madness: It's odd but your routine sounds oddly like Starting Strength... which with proper nutrition can put 30-40 lbs of lean body mass on novices within a couple months. It's not unrealistic, but it does depend a lot on genetics, if you're underweight, etc. IN ANY CASE, don't complain about it.. help solve the problem.
On January 19 2009 06:46 Warrior Madness wrote: Some of you have extremely unrealistic goals. 10 pounds in one month?? If you have the perfect workout, with the perfect nutrition you'd gain 1 pound of lean muscle in one week at most. I workout three days a week and run two days a week. My workouts include squats, deadlifts, benchpresses, power cleans, overhead presses, and chinups. My main focus is on form (I have a personal trainer for that) and progressively increasing my weights by 5-10 pounds each time I go to the gym.
That exactly why I got so aggressive and pissed off, and why I said a lot of people here are hypocrites....
I give you few examples of what I see in the gym and what I know:
1. they don't go do work out because weather is shitty. 2. they don't follow a strict diet and training regime, still partying and drinking as if it's perfectly fine. 3. no dedication and ignorant. 4. making unrealistic goals and too lazy to read few articles. 5. only go work out when their friends go, are you doing it for your friends or for yourself? 6. when people make constructive criticism, they think it is rude and wrong. 7. keep making new resolutions, such as new year's, why can't you tell yourself and start right now? 8. make promises and never keep them, always have legitimate excuses for everything. 9. training doesn't pay off, blame the shit doesn't work. 10. always do one exercise in gym, ie bench press, put on pair of 45lb plates to start off with then can't go higher. 11. doesn't do warm ups, jump straight into weights.
many more, there is no point keep on writing. Just ask yourselves, the people who made those TL fitness initiatives, when are you serious enough to get anything done, or it's just a another thread for hype?
Wow, I don't get you at all. how is it a bad thing in any way for there to be a thread here encouraging people to become more active. Everything you describe for the perfect training regime requires quite a lifestyle change to implement fully, you aren't going to see people doing something like that overnight, so just calm down ok?
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