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Sydney2287 Posts
On January 17 2009 15:01 clazziquai wrote:haha yeah I think I'll have to try a lot harder. I think I'm going to hit the gyms once I go back to school. Plus my dieting will be easier once I get out of home (my mom makes too much good food I can't resist) 
I swear it's an inbuilt function of mothers to feed their children as much as possible. No matter how many times I tell my mum I'm trying to lose weight, when she cooks she still serves me up a double serving of whatever dinner is. And then she acts hurt when I only eat half because I really don't need a double serving. I think she's finally getting the point though.
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Status report: I eat like a fatass and I haven't exercised since last year.
Man I'm failing at this.
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I got back from the gym a few hours ago, I didn't throw up but I came close, I learned that I had concentrated way too much on particular muscle groups and not enough on others. I was well knackered though. I'm going for a jog tomorrow and doing some athletics at the local footy oval. Workout again on Monday and PT session on Wednesday.
I'm confident he'll be able to help me. I will definitely reach my goal as stated in op, but that isn't my final goal I'm not sure how long it is going to take, but I am aiming for a very low body fat percentage. I'll set a new goal when I reach my current one!
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I'm just glad a lot of you guys are following through with your goals and are still motivated enough to continue, if you managed to to stay on top of your exercise and diet for at least 2-3 weeks it should be long enough to become habit.
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I'm halfway through week 2 and I'm feeling great! I'm getting some pretty good strength gains and my overall feeling is much, much better. I'm eating well, sleeping well and functioning well.
My biggest rave however is that I'm finally learning to turn down junk especially when I'm not even hungry. I turned down pizza thrice over the past 1 1/2 weeks (same number of times I've been offered) and did the same for many other foods that would've wrecked my regimen. I can safely say that it wouldn't have been the same a month ago where my motivation was nil.
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On January 17 2009 15:27 Energies wrote:
I'm just glad a lot of you guys are following through with your goals and are still motivated enough to continue, if you managed to to stay on top of your exercise and diet for at least 2-3 weeks it should be long enough to become habit.
Yep, I agree. All the same for working out to diet to anything else in everyone's lives.
Habits take like 2-4 weeks to form so gotta keep strong until it just becomes second nature.
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Sydney2287 Posts
Just reposting a question about calorie burning that I don't think received a proper answer.
Basically if I run a 5.1km bush track in 40 minutes, will I burn more, less or the same amount of calories in 30 minutes? Is there any kind of generic rule regarding this? So for example.. if you run it faster you burn more over a shorter period giving no net gain (Or even the opposite, I'm just giving an example of what I'm looking for).
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On January 18 2009 01:45 Bockit wrote:
Just reposting a question about calorie burning that I don't think received a proper answer.
Basically if I run a 5.1km bush track in 40 minutes, will I burn more, less or the same amount of calories in 30 minutes? Is there any kind of generic rule regarding this? So for example.. if you run it faster you burn more over a shorter period giving no net gain (Or even the opposite, I'm just giving an example of what I'm looking for).
Generally, the higher the intensity (more work per unit time) the more you will "burn." You don't actually burn more because it's the same amount of work, BUT high intensity causes increases in hormones that your body produces such as growth hormone (just one example here as there's many other hormones and forces at work). As you may well know, growth hormone stimulates IGF-1 (insulin like growth factor 1) and both of these are potently anabolic for muscle mass and stimulate fat burning.
So the faster you run the better. That's why stuff like high intensity intervals works so well. The net gain is actually in better nutrient partitioning which improves body composition, but the actual exercise itself doesn't burn anymore calories.
If you want I can link some studies.. or you can do it yourself with pubmed/google. 
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Please do eshlow, I'm interested in some reading (or just link some DBs i could search, i have a pretty wide access to a lot of private databases). Actually I never considered the calorie aspect of running much because it's not why I run, but I was under the impression that longer lower-intensity running would alter the carb/fat fuel mix in favor of fats.
Myself, I always prefer a longer slower-paced run over a shorter fast-paced run but for different reasons of course.
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On January 18 2009 03:33 JeeJee wrote:
Please do eshlow, I'm interested in some reading (or just link some DBs i could search, i have a pretty wide access to a lot of private databases). Actually I never considered the calorie aspect of running much because it's not why I run, but I was under the impression that longer lower-intensity running would alter the carb/fat fuel mix in favor of fats.
Myself, I always prefer a longer slower-paced run over a shorter fast-paced run but for different reasons of course.
+ Show Spoiler +Kraemer WJ, Marchitelli L, Gordon SE, Harman E, Dziados JE, Mello R, Frykman P, McCurry D, Fleck SJ. Hormonal and growth factor responses to heavy resistance exercise protocols. J Appl Physiol 1990; 69: 1442-1450. Pyka G, Wiswell RA, Marcus R. Age-dependent effect of resistance exercise on growth hormone secretion in people. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, 1992; Vol 75, 404-407. Jacques B. IHO Urinary Growth Hormone – Clininal Value Applicatiions. International Health Organization. April 27, 2008. Available at: http://www.ihealthorg.com/iho_data.html. Kraemer RR, Durand RJ, Acevedo EO, Johnson LG, Kraemer GR, Hebert EP, Castracane VD. Rigorous Running Increases Growth Hormone and Insulin-Like Growth Factor-I Without Altering Ghrelin. Experimental Biology and Medicine 2004; 229:240-246. Wee J, Charlton C, Simpson H, Jackson NC, Shojaee-Moradie F, Stolinski M, Pentecost C, Umpleby AM. GH secretion in acute exercise may result in post-exercise lipolysis. Growth Hormone & IGF Research. 2005 Dec; Vol 15, 6:397-404 Kraemer WJ, Staron RS, Hagerman FC, Hikida RS, Fry AC, Gordon SE, Nindl BC, Gothshalk LA, Volek JS, Marx JO, Newton RU, Häkkinen K. The effects of short-term resistance training on endocrine function in men and women. Eur J Appl Physiol Occup Physiol. 1998 Jun;78(1):69-76. King NA, Lluch A, Stubbs RJ, Blundell JE. High dose exercise does not increase hunger or energy intake in free living males. Eur J Clin Nutr. 1997 Jul;51(7):478-83. Pritzlaff CJ, Wideman Laurie, Weltman JY. Impact of acute exercise intensity on pulsatile growth hormone release in men. J Appl Physiol 1999; 87: 498-504.
Here's some sources. Easiest way to go about it is just copy and paste the title into google and it should bring up the studies.
They're not really specific and some might even be a bit off topic but they should give a fairly good background for what we're looking at. I'll try to find the running one I remember I had specifically.. I don't think I put any on running specifically in here. But if you want I can go digging for those too.. or you can search pubmed yourself. 
Edit: here's a couple more that are probably more right down your alley of what you're looking for regarding body composition as opposed to looking at hormones.
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Hey eshlow, sorry to bother you again. I think it's better to drop the SS portions of my routine and just focus on the push ups, sit ups, and running. I'd like to save my newbie gains for later What do you recommend I do now?
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Ah I haven't done any cardio exercise like running but I've been cutting down on the food, especially at night, (except two times where I was just so hungry I pigged out) I've been lifting more weights and started basketball in a league but we don't do alot of running, just small drills. Also, green tea is helping my face look cleaner!
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On January 18 2009 14:49 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Ah I haven't done any cardio exercise like running but I've been cutting down on the food, especially at night, (except two times where I was just so hungry I pigged out) I've been lifting more weights and started basketball in a league but we don't do alot of running, just small drills. Also, green tea is helping my face look cleaner!
If you eat any sugar try to cut that back as it often causes acne as well.
If you're still having problems try to cut out gluten (to see if you're getting even slight allergic reactions in the gut) and nightshades as well.
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On January 18 2009 14:46 Demoninja wrote:Hey eshlow, sorry to bother you again. I think it's better to drop the SS portions of my routine and just focus on the push ups, sit ups, and running. I'd like to save my newbie gains for later What do you recommend I do now?
If that's what you so desire then go for it. I personally don't see the point putting off newbie gains because generally once you get them they'll stick with you as long as you do the occasional strength workout.
If you want to focus on that stuff then start out with some grease the groove (GTG) and density work. Work on this stuff 3-4 times a week to start and try to work up to 5 or maybe even 6 times a day. If you feel fatigued and performance dropping off don't be afraid to take an extra rest day or two.
GTG focuses on doing a lot of submaximal sets per day. So like 6-10x throughout the day you're gonna do 20 pushups (if 30s your max -- about 50-75% of your max) spaced out every hour or two.
Density just focuses on doing more per session or per amount of time. So aim for hitting a total of 100 pushups this workout, 105 the next, 110 the next. It can be like 5x20 then 5x21, etc. Or, for example, it can be done by doing say 100 in 5 minutes then trying to do 100 in 4:50 next time and so on.
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Wow I didn't knew a thread like this existed, awesomeness.
Age: 21 Height: 5"11'
Current Weight: 220
Goal Weight: 200
Starting Date: Jan 18
Goal Date: June 1
So real quick question, since I'm trying to lose weight, I was wondering if Clif bars are any good? I mainly munch on it after a workout or when I'm hungry during the middle of a day. Also, I want to lose weight (primary goal) and gain strength (secondary goal), what type of exercises are recommended(besides a lot of running haha)? I haven't read the links on page 1, but will do so now, so excuse the rather vague questions 
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you guys ought to stop focusing on weight lifting... that is not a great way to go from unhealthy SC nerd into healthy SC nerd. people with weak hearts and blood circulation should not "jump into" bench pressing. instead start with basic stretches, push ups and situps. when you can do 50 push ups in a row then consider bench pressing. yoga and streching is better for those insterested in getting healthy.
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Australia3818 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:02 Kunty wrote:
you guys ought to stop focusing on weight lifting... that is not a great way to go from unhealthy SC nerd into healthy SC nerd. people with weak hearts and blood circulation should not "jump into" bench pressing. instead start with basic stretches, push ups and situps. when you can do 50 push ups in a row then consider bench pressing. yoga and streching is better for those insterested in getting healthy.
Nice name.
On another note:
Smurg
Age: 21 Height: 6'0"
Current Weight: 161lb
Goal Weight: 157lb (More about bodyfat % - hoping for 12-15%)
Starting date: January 5th
Ending date: February 8th (Holiday)
Not too concerned about overall weight loss, more about losing the fat and gaining muscle. For now I'm happy to lose the amount of weight as specified (for my goal date) and do moderate work with weights at the same time.
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I just had a bowl of popcorn and a beer, at the same time it hurts to laugh because my abs hurt so much from my workout yesterday, I think my body is confused as hell at the moment about what's happening to it.
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On January 18 2009 19:02 Kunty wrote:
you guys ought to stop focusing on weight lifting... that is not a great way to go from unhealthy SC nerd into healthy SC nerd. people with weak hearts and blood circulation should not "jump into" bench pressing. instead start with basic stretches, push ups and situps. when you can do 50 push ups in a row then consider bench pressing. yoga and streching is better for those insterested in getting healthy.
wow... that's some high requirements for starting bench.
You know it's almost impossible to do 50 consecutive push-ups right? Push-ups have almost nothing to do with anything other than push-ups.
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