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Harris1st
Germany6981 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6981 Posts
Premier League 25 Games 6 Goals 2 Assists 268' minutes / Goal 1.603' minutes played "60 million down the drain, Kai Havertz scores again" Other topic: If you were Nagelsmann, how'd you play with Kroos back? Neuer / Ter Stegen Kimmich - Rüdiger - Tah Sane - Kroos - Gündogan - Wirtz - Brandt/ Havertz Füllkrug/ Undav - Musiala | ||
sharkie
Austria18490 Posts
On February 26 2024 22:04 Harris1st wrote: Speaking of Arsenal, my boy Havertz actually doing okay so far: Premier League 25 Games 6 Goals 2 Assists 268' minutes / Goal 1.603' minutes played "60 million down the drain, Kai Havertz scores again" Other topic: If you were Nagelsmann, how'd you play with Kroos back? Neuer / Ter Stegen Kimmich - Rüdiger - Tah Sane - Kroos - Gündogan - Wirtz - Brandt/ Havertz Füllkrug/ Undav - Musiala Sane and Brandt/Havertz as wingbacks? Germany will concede loads of goals with that o.o I would agree on 3-5-2 though. However, I would use real wingbacks not those makeshift ones. I dont plan with Sane because he will miss all preparation friendlies for Germany. He would always come from the bench for me ---- Neuer/Ter Stegen Tah - Rüdiger - Anton Henrichs/Kimmich - Gündogan - Wirtz - Kroos - Mittelstädt/Raum Undav - Musiala | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10217 Posts
On February 26 2024 18:05 Harris1st wrote: Can't really tell you why but as an "outsider" aka non-english footie fan for me Chelsea is and always was my most hated PL club while Liverpool (and to some extent Arsenal) were always my favorites so I just love how the game went yesterday (obviously not the injury) Chelsea are a plastic club that was purchased for Russian political reasons (like all the other oil clubs these days), and weren't anything before the Russian takeover. Follow that with Boehly thinking he can just buy his way out of any problem and a pretty toxic fanbase (not Pande, he's alright), and you come out with a pretty unlikeable club. Also feels good to have our fans effectively take over Wembley in ET and turn it into a home game. Anfield South is real. | ||
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Pandemona
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
For a start, in the 90s we were in the champions league playing vs Rivaldo and co in champs league, won a european trophy twice, won an fa cup and league cup. We also before Roman bought us, beat Liverpool to 4th spot then Roman bought us that summer and Mourinho joined the following summer. Roman being ousted was the worse thing to happen to us, every fan would admit, but we were still happy with what we were up to that point, before he came we were about to go bankrupt but our owner at the time was actively trying to sell us, we still had great players, we had half the 98 france world cup team play for us xD On February 26 2024 22:04 Harris1st wrote: Speaking of Arsenal, my boy Havertz actually doing okay so far: Premier League 25 Games 6 Goals 2 Assists 268' minutes / Goal 1.603' minutes played "60 million down the drain, Kai Havertz scores again" Other topic: If you were Nagelsmann, how'd you play with Kroos back? Neuer / Ter Stegen Kimmich - Rüdiger - Tah Sane - Kroos - Gündogan - Wirtz - Brandt/ Havertz Füllkrug/ Undav - Musiala Juury still out on Havertz it has to be, he missed so many chances vs Newcastle still and was invisible in Porto. He would have ok stats that u post if he was a CM or Winger, but he isn't he is back to playing striker for them again. He still is baffling player which shows up 1 in 3 to remind you he has a nice touch, good feet and sometimes can finish, but he just frustrating, glad he is arsenal problem now. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25894 Posts
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Pandemona
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18093 Posts
On February 27 2024 04:58 Pandemona wrote: Yes, no question he was the beginning for the billionaires trying to buy there way to the top, no question and because of him and city there is shitty FFP i get it, but he didn't do anything wrong for us as an owner, built our academy to be the best in the world and still is one of the best (someone tell boehly ffs!!!!!!) but from the outside it might not look as nice which i concede. I remember some dirty business with the academy too. Bunch of Dutch players went to Chelsea academy, mainly from secondary Dutch clubs. Young players with huge potential would previously have gone from Groningen/Utrecht/Alkmaar (the main secondary clubs with good academies) to Amsterdam/Eindhoven/Rotterdam. Now a lot of them were going to Chelsea because they were being offered "contracts" even though that was illegal. Highest profile I can think of was Nathan Ake. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10217 Posts
On February 27 2024 04:55 WombaT wrote: Roman was good for Chelsea, bad for the game overall IMO. Can understand why Chelsea fans have a rather different perspective on it as he was a fantastic steward while he was owner. Pretty much how I stand on it. Good for Chelsea to find success, but again, to outsiders it feels extremely plastic and could be pointed to as where the oil clubs began to assert their money over the sport. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25894 Posts
Part of why Wenger was so irked it to the degree he may have coined the phrase ‘financial doping’ was Chelsea completely changed the financial landscape. So Arsenal and Wenger are being frugal, cutting back and investing in the Emirates, and having a few lean years awaiting the promised land. Except the promised land never came because Chelsea and subsequently City just blew that extra revenue-generating potential of a new stadium out of the water. Hindsight is always 20/20 and sometimes it doesn’t pay to think long term | ||
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 27 2024 05:22 Acrofales wrote: I remember some dirty business with the academy too. Bunch of Dutch players went to Chelsea academy, mainly from secondary Dutch clubs. Young players with huge potential would previously have gone from Groningen/Utrecht/Alkmaar (the main secondary clubs with good academies) to Amsterdam/Eindhoven/Rotterdam. Now a lot of them were going to Chelsea because they were being offered "contracts" even though that was illegal. Highest profile I can think of was Nathan Ake. Fair enough i can't say we didn't do that, we got alot of punishment for that. We got a 2 window transfer ban for all our contract offerings for the kids, but we still did produce a lot of our own which was down to this investment straight away into our academy, but of course Christensen and Ake stand out as ones we bought in and improved. . On February 27 2024 06:04 WombaT wrote: 0If it was Chelsea in isolation, it kinda broke up that Arsenal/United duopoly and added a new force into the league. But I do feel it opened the door for bigger and bigger sugar daddies, until we ended up with bloody nation states at it! Part of why Wenger was so irked it to the degree he may have coined the phrase ‘financial doping’ was Chelsea completely changed the financial landscape. So Arsenal and Wenger are being frugal, cutting back and investing in the Emirates, and having a few lean years awaiting the promised land. Except the promised land never came because Chelsea and subsequently City just blew that extra revenue-generating potential of a new stadium out of the water. Hindsight is always 20/20 and sometimes it doesn’t pay to think long term This is what our silly silly owners need to realise. You cannot "invest" in the future as much as they are doing right now. Imagine getting headlines against you of "klopps kids beats chelsea billions" when the average age of the teams on the pitch at the final whistle was chelsea still 2 years younger.....what does that say about how young and in experience our squad is. 5/11 or maybe 6/11 being good solid "kids" with the rest being all experienced pros would be fine, but they are going to the extreme and add in a very inedpt tactical coach and you have recipes for disaster. If we had Potter we would be doing better than we are now, however we would sill be struggling because this squad is not competing for top 6 anytime soon without some decent experience added to it. You cannot in football want to "compete" and have children playing for you, it doesn't work and will never in the premier league, way to competiive of a league to be trying this silly tactic. | ||
sharkie
Austria18490 Posts
Hes such a beast | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10217 Posts
On February 27 2024 16:37 sharkie wrote: English media keeps praising Endo more and more! Hes such a beast As he should be. He's been relied upon as much as Gomez this season, and both players were thought to be merely rotation pieces, but have turned out to be incredible. Gomez is our new Milner and Endo has been running his heart out. He's not a perfect DM, hell, I would say he's actually quite average. But his intelligence and hustle really make up for it and his ability to pick out the simple, but line breaking pass is a super underrated part of his game. | ||
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GTR
51489 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6981 Posts
On February 26 2024 22:38 sharkie wrote: Sane and Brandt/Havertz as wingbacks? Germany will concede loads of goals with that o.o I would agree on 3-5-2 though. However, I would use real wingbacks not those makeshift ones. I dont plan with Sane because he will miss all preparation friendlies for Germany. He would always come from the bench for me ---- Neuer/Ter Stegen Tah - Rüdiger - Anton Henrichs/Kimmich - Gündogan - Wirtz - Kroos - Mittelstädt/Raum Undav - Musiala Good point though a main problem has always been that German wingbacks are not where they need to be to play on the international stage. Maybe it's 4-4-2 (4-5-1) then after all Neuer/Ter Stegen Kimmich - Tah - Rüdiger - Anton/ Mittelstadt Brandt/Havertz/ Sane - Gündogan - Kroos - Wirtz Undav - Musiala EDIT: Thinking about it, the only position Germany actually has "world class" is goalkeeper and CM/ OM | ||
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GTR
51489 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18490 Posts
On February 28 2024 17:20 Harris1st wrote: Good point though a main problem has always been that German wingbacks are not where they need to be to play on the international stage. Maybe it's 4-4-2 (4-5-1) then after all Neuer/Ter Stegen Kimmich - Tah - Rüdiger - Anton/ Mittelstadt Brandt/Havertz/ Sane - Gündogan - Kroos - Wirtz Undav - Musiala EDIT: Thinking about it, the only position Germany actually has "world class" is goalkeeper and CM/ OM If Germany goes 4-4-2 I think they need andrich or groß as a purely DM. The backline and kroos/gundogan wouldnt be able to cope defensively | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10217 Posts
Gakpo needs to pick up some slack while he's got the opportunity right now to play a lot of minutes. He's been very average/below average. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28701 Posts
Theyve hardly played together this season but if they avoid any more injuries city is likely to finish stronger. | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
They held up while he was gone and rodri was out and are still in contention if they go the big winning streak route again. | ||
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