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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 19 2021 01:14 GMT
#1921
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
April 19 2021 01:27 GMT
#1922
This idea is stupid as fuck, it might be fresh for a few years but after awhile it will be the same teams competing. What will happen to the underdog stories?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 19 2021 01:40 GMT
#1923
I'll be asleep but that doesn't mean nobody should enjoy this when it goes live lol

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 19 2021 02:04 GMT
#1924
This is one of the only times where I'll apologize on behalf of a group of people, but I want to say sorry to everyone who loves football for my country coming in and fucking it up by turning it into the goddamn NFL
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
April 19 2021 02:14 GMT
#1925
On April 19 2021 11:04 plasmidghost wrote:
This is one of the only times where I'll apologize on behalf of a group of people, but I want to say sorry to everyone who loves football for my country coming in and fucking it up by turning it into the goddamn NFL

It’s a good system in many ways.

This is taking the worst aspect of the US model (in terms of how it intersects with European football) in no relegation and a closed shop, but without any of the good aspects of the American model, such as salary caps and how drafts work prevent

JP Morgan may be throwing the money, but plenty of Europeans who should know better have decided to piss away what makes football so loved via a complete ignorance of why people love it that I can’t realistically blame American influence for this one!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7286 Posts
April 19 2021 02:16 GMT
#1926
Sports in general have gotten way too big and commercialized at every level. The amount of money in sports is shameful. I'm very much a casual football fan but so this doesn't have much impact on me but I feel sorry for the fans of these national leagues. My hope is people stop watching or paying to go to games and tell these owners and broadcast stations to get fucked.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8718 Posts
April 19 2021 03:11 GMT
#1927
wow 54 new comments since i last replied ~8 hours ago. dont even remember the last time we had this much activity in football threads.
and pl, fifa, uefa etc have to stand by their words and take action. its a huge gamble for them but the integrity of the sport needs it and the fans need it. its the only way to put pressure on the big clubs to cave, because despite all their money they still care about brand value and player contracts.
what im curious about now is how the player contracts are worded. do they say the players have to be available for any competition the club takes part in? or does it specify the competitions the player could play in? if its the latter then the players can boycott the club also which would be huge for the good guys
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4557 Posts
April 19 2021 03:31 GMT
#1928
I will believe UEFA threats if they immediately kicks all the super league clubs from the Champions league and Europa cup. But we all know that FIFA and UEFA officials will most likely cave in after getting bribed to stfu and listen to the billionaire owners. As for the domestic leagues, if the FAs kicked the clubs out. Short term they will suffer but it would be better in the long term. I dare say the clubs cannot survive a season without a domestic league.


The super league will be a nonfactor for me due to the time factor. It should be the same for most of us in Asia and Oceania (maybe the Americas too)
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14023 Posts
April 19 2021 05:06 GMT
#1929
It would be interesting to see how work permits would work for the British teams if the fa isn't willing to endorse the super league
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6242 Posts
April 19 2021 05:06 GMT
#1930
The FAs have to do something now. If they don't and the super league is a success they don't have any leverage left. If the super league works it's only a matter of time before the clubs in the super league leave their national league anyway. Why play in a national league when you have a super league without relegation, where you control everything and which makes a lot money.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 05:24:43
April 19 2021 05:24 GMT
#1931
Any bets on the final of the Super League to te called the Super Ball?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
April 19 2021 05:31 GMT
#1932
On April 19 2021 09:32 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 09:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone is pretty sure of themselves...


The absolute gall of this man. Of all these clubs, really


That tweet (a threat of forming a own world cup) has now been deleted, but in general the threat is quite empty there anyway.

How many non-European teams could even be formed with players from just those teams? Or do we then have a worldcup with Argentina, Brazil and Team RestOfAmericas? One team for Asia, one for Africa... But as a compensation you get two Team England. (And maybe you can find some rules change, so they also occasionally win something...)
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4371 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 05:55:49
April 19 2021 05:55 GMT
#1933
On April 19 2021 14:24 nayumi wrote:
Any bets on the final of the Super League to te called the Super Ball?


World Series of Soccer
Sucker for nostalgia
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1973 Posts
April 19 2021 06:12 GMT
#1934
On April 19 2021 14:24 nayumi wrote:
Any bets on the final of the Super League to te called the Super Ball?

Maybe they'll land a sponsorship deal with Calvin Klein and we can call it Calvinball?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
April 19 2021 06:15 GMT
#1935
Fifa have a extremely powerful threat in banning them from International competition- the question is do they have the balls to follow this through
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 06:30:26
April 19 2021 06:23 GMT
#1936
I slept a night on this and I think I dislike it even more now. The joy of European football for me (ManU fan) has been that it's

A) A rare treat, at least in the sense that there is less games, making each individual fixture so much more important. Like the inexplicable loss to Istanbul this year

B) The cutthroat nature of it. One bad loss and you're out. There is a constant feeling of danger, that the run ends for that year and you'll have to start again next year. If you qualify.

C) The qualification process itself is a treat. Imagine how dull this years premier league would've become if top4 race wasn't a thing. Yeah it's curious to see West Ham and Everton that high up the table, but would we care as much if there wasn't a chance they knock some other teams out of the European competitions? I don't like the fact that we don't qualify for CL every year, but when we do it feels somewhat earned (yes there is already a huge financial un-fair play going on, hence the word 'somewhat')

D) You don't get to see all the matches you want. In StarCraft equivalent terms, Bayern v City this season ended up a bit like Serral vs Maru from a year or two ago. Two arguably the best competitors just never faced each other, which only made everyone want to see it more. ManU vs Barca or Juve will soon enough become just another game of football if it's scheduled to happen four times a season every season. The drama and talking points of bracket luck and who would've beat who are important in building romance of these competitions.

I get that I'm probably more invested in following football than most other people out there, but it makes me genuinely wonder that who'll enjoy watching the richest clubs get even richer off the back of an extended pre-season invitational. I think that there are problems in the current system with fixture congestion and uneven playing field, but in my eyes the only stakeholders better off after this proposal are the investors. Eliminate the uncertainty of having to qualify into big global visibility via 'sporting merit' and football becomes a whole lot easier business to manage.

E: some typos, I am so angery at this that I typed before having sufficient amounts of coffee to function.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
April 19 2021 06:36 GMT
#1937
On April 19 2021 14:06 RvB wrote:
The FAs have to do something now. If they don't and the super league is a success they don't have any leverage left. If the super league works it's only a matter of time before the clubs in the super league leave their national league anyway. Why play in a national league when you have a super league without relegation, where you control everything and which makes a lot money.


Yup if this goes through you can be sure the teams are going to break away from their domestic leagues and just concentrate on the "super league". Football will be controlled by just the 12 teams which is seriously worrying.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8718 Posts
April 19 2021 06:39 GMT
#1938
honestly theres just so many things wrong with this decision that people could write entire papers on it. fucking disgusting how a bunch of americans can just come along with their cash and destroy the sport that they barely even know. they should fuck off back to their franchised sports and leave the world game as it is. at this point im literally begging for some random chinese billionaire to buy the glazers out.
and as insignificant as tottenham are, daniel levy should hang his head in shame. he has the easiest excuse to not take part in the league, as tottenham are frankly no where near deserving enough to be included in that group, and yet he still said yes. hes not even american and cant act like hes clueless about the tradition, history and spirit of the sport. what a huge betrayal.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
April 19 2021 06:44 GMT
#1939
Well it's time for everyone involved in football outside the purely money-based activities (owners, agents, TV people, etc) to step up and boycott this crap. Only if it fails at the beginning will it fail. Once they're established they'll be virtually impossible to kill.

Otherwise I'd say that AFC Wimbledon is the shining star that should guide everyone who loves football. Kick those billionaires out of the people's sport and build a system where club members and fans control the boards.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
April 19 2021 06:50 GMT
#1940
On April 19 2021 15:36 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 14:06 RvB wrote:
The FAs have to do something now. If they don't and the super league is a success they don't have any leverage left. If the super league works it's only a matter of time before the clubs in the super league leave their national league anyway. Why play in a national league when you have a super league without relegation, where you control everything and which makes a lot money.


Yup if this goes through you can be sure the teams are going to break away from their domestic leagues and just concentrate on the "super league". Football will be controlled by just the 12 teams which is seriously worrying.


I suppose the SL is banking on that the "solidarity" money they will send to national associations will serve to put pressure on the FAs ("if you kick us out no money for you"). And of course the fact that current sponsorship and TV deals will have to be renegotiated if the big fish leave the pond.

But the FAs gotta do it anyway. If they wait and the SL is established the teams are leaving later on anyway, as has been pointed out. They will begin by wanting to play SL in the weekend and move league games midweek, and when FAs don't oblige they'll state that "inflexibility" as a reason for leaving.
They already suggested this for the UCL.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
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