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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 18 2021 21:26 GMT
#1901
If this thing does happen, what do y'all think Bayern and PSG will do? Stick to their national leagues or join them?
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 18 2021 21:28 GMT
#1902
They will join. The only reason PSG didn't join is that their largest investor is determined to have the Qatar Cup success etc. So he would not make any money if they joined a ESL.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
April 18 2021 22:23 GMT
#1903
I don't see Bayern joining it.
The German market is actually quite a bit different than the other big European ones. And they are way more home country focussed (financially, but also with regards to recruitment policy and fan culture) than the other big teams.

And even their financial approach was never to actually really compete with the top clubs in Europe, but just outspending everyone in Germany and then leveraging their unique position in Germany to access the German player market and maybe attract some projects simply by their success.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 18 2021 22:37 GMT
#1904
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-18 23:05:37
April 18 2021 22:52 GMT
#1905
Well...



Twelve of Europe’s leading football clubs have today come together to announce they have agreed to establish a new mid-week competition, the Super League, governed by its Founding Clubs.

AC Milan, Arsenal FC, Atlético de Madrid, Chelsea FC, FC Barcelona, FC Internazionale Milano, Juventus FC, Liverpool FC, Manchester City, Manchester United, Real Madrid CF and Tottenham Hotspur have all joined as Founding Clubs. It is anticipated that a further three clubs will join ahead of the inaugural season, which is intended to commence as soon as practicable.

Going forward, the Founding Clubs look forward to holding discussions with UEFA and FIFA to work together in partnership to deliver the best outcomes for the new League and for football as a whole.

The formation of the Super League comes at a time when the global pandemic has accelerated the instability in the existing European football economic model. Further, for a number of years, the Founding Clubs have had the objective of improving the quality and intensity of existing European competitions throughout each season, and of creating a format for top clubs and players to compete on a regular basis.

The pandemic has shown that a strategic vision and a sustainable commercial approach are required to enhance value and support for the benefit of the entire European football pyramid. In recent months extensive dialogue has taken place with football stakeholders regarding the future format of European competitions. The Founding Clubs believe the solutions proposed following these talks do not solve fundamental issues, including the need to provide higher-quality matches and additional financial resources for the overall football pyramid.

Competition Format
  • 20 participating clubs with 15 Founding Clubs and a qualifying mechanism for a further five teams to qualify annually based on achievements in the prior season.

  • Midweek fixtures with all participating clubs continuing to compete in their respective national leagues, preserving the traditional domestic match calendar which remains at the heart of the club game.

  • An August start with clubs participating in two groups of ten, playing home and away fixtures, with the top three in each group automatically qualifying for the quarter finals. Teams finishing fourth and fifth will then compete in a two-legged play-off for the remaining quarter-final positions. A two-leg knockout format will be used to reach the final at the end of May, which will be staged as a single fixture at a neutral venue.


As soon as practicable after the start of the men’s competition, a corresponding women’s league will also be launched, helping to advance and develop the women’s game.

The new annual tournament will provide significantly greater economic growth and support for European football via a long-term commitment to uncapped solidarity payments which will grow in line with league revenues. These solidarity payments will be substantially higher than those generated by the current European competition and are expected to be in excess of €10 billion during the course of the initial commitment period of the Clubs. In addition, the competition will be built on a sustainable financial foundation with all Founding Clubs signing up to a spending framework. In exchange for their commitment, Founding Clubs will receive an amount of €3.5 billion solely to support their infrastructure investment plans and to offset the impact of the COVID pandemic.

Florentino Pérez, President Real Madrid CF and the first Chairman of the Super League said:

“We will help football at every level and take it to its rightful place in the world. Football is the only global sport in the world with more than four billion fans and our responsibility as big clubs is to respond to their desires.”

Backing the new European league, Andrea Agnelli, Chairman of Juventus and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:

“Our 12 Founder clubs represent billions of fans across the globe and 99 European trophies. We have come together at this critical moment, enabling European competition to be transformed, putting the game we love on a sustainable footing for the long-term future, substantially increasing solidarity, and giving fans and amateur players a regular flow of headline fixtures that will feed their passion for the game while providing them with engaging role models.”

Joel Glazer, Co-Chairman of Manchester United and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:

“By bringing together the world’s greatest clubs and players to play each other throughout the season, the Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world-class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid.”


Source

edit: And here's the website:

https://thesuperleague.com/
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 18 2021 23:09 GMT
#1906
Jesus...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 18 2021 23:13 GMT
#1907
This was inevitable, I guess. It's all about the money. Kroenke couldn't be arsed to spend from his many billions on players for us so now we're being used to make him hundreds of millions of dollars richer while completely abandoning everything about us that made us special in the eyes of the fans.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 18 2021 23:22 GMT
#1908
So does the Premier League follow up with their threat... or not?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9708 Posts
April 18 2021 23:24 GMT
#1909
On April 19 2021 08:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So does the Premier League follow up with their threat... or not?

Nope.
Its all about that cash I'm afraid.

I hope some players and managers might though, and I hope the national team threat stands.
RIP Meatloaf <3
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 18 2021 23:42 GMT
#1910
On April 19 2021 08:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 08:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So does the Premier League follow up with their threat... or not?

Nope.
Its all about that cash I'm afraid.

I hope some players and managers might though, and I hope the national team threat stands.

I agree with this. There's no way PL sticks to their guns here. They'd lose an unbelievable amount of money.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
April 18 2021 23:57 GMT
#1911
On April 19 2021 06:26 plasmidghost wrote:
If this thing does happen, what do y'all think Bayern and PSG will do? Stick to their national leagues or join them?

Bayern’s hands are tied by the ownership model of German clubs.

When you’re 51% in terms of stake controlled by fans to a certain degree and this is so universally unpopular there’s only so much you can do, even if you want.

I’m curious as to PSG, doubtless they would have been invited, perhaps the powers that be there were wise enough to see how unpopular (and ultimately potentially damaging) such a move would be
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 19 2021 00:00 GMT
#1912
Someone is pretty sure of themselves...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
April 19 2021 00:05 GMT
#1913
Poll: Who’s watching the super league then?

Nay and I’m not sure if I fucking care about football any more (9)
 
41%

Nay (8)
 
36%

Unsure (3)
 
14%

Yay (2)
 
9%

22 total votes

Your vote: Who’s watching the super league then?

(Vote): Yay
(Vote): Nay
(Vote): Nay and I’m not sure if I fucking care about football any more
(Vote): Unsure


'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
April 19 2021 00:08 GMT
#1914
Well guess who can go fuck themselves.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 19 2021 00:08 GMT
#1915
Tomorrow is going to be a hell of a day
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 19 2021 00:32 GMT
#1916
On April 19 2021 09:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone is pretty sure of themselves...

https://twitter.com/FutbolBible/status/1383932353232261122

The absolute gall of this man. Of all these clubs, really
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 19 2021 00:34 GMT
#1917
Yep. Right now Europe is asleep, which I think plays in part of the odd timing for the Clubs to release a blanket Press Release.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 19 2021 00:44 GMT
#1918
Super league is super stupid. No underdogs allowed. Stale matches between the same teams every year that will concentrate even more wealth and talent. Just waiting for them to announce the games not even being all in Europe with teams playing matches in the US or China or something even dumber just for more cash
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 19 2021 00:56 GMT
#1919
Y'all know what got me into football? It was May 2, 2016, the day Leicester won the league. I thought how incredible it was that this team that was 7500-1 odds of winning did it. I watched PL the following season and loved it so much. Knowing that a storyline like that will never happen again is all sorts of depressing.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 19 2021 00:59 GMT
#1920
On April 19 2021 09:44 Shellshock wrote:
Super league is super stupid. No underdogs allowed. Stale matches between the same teams every year that will concentrate even more wealth and talent. Just waiting for them to announce the games not even being all in Europe with teams playing matches in the US or China or something even dumber just for more cash

Tbf right now, Spurs and Arsenal are major underdogs. I can't wait for the North London derbies in this league to be about which team doesn't finish last
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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