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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 19 2021 13:40 GMT
#1981
On April 19 2021 22:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 21:56 sneakyfox wrote:
Shots fired:



All it would take is for one player to take UEFA to court for it to be thrown out. Players signed a contract with the Club not UEFA.

The court cases are going to be filed all over the world representing:

  • Sponsors
  • TV Networks
  • Supporters
  • Domestic Leagues
  • International Teams
  • Players


This might work for EU clubs but what about English clubs?

Brexit makes this more complicated.

Individual national teams can also refuse to call up players. I would hardly be surprised if the German team did this.

Also very little chance German clubs join this league. The fans (i.e. owners) have to approve of it first.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6242 Posts
April 19 2021 13:49 GMT
#1982
The clubs have nothing to do with national football. Players can sue all they want but the FAs don't have to call anyone up for the national team and neither does the UEFA have to let anyone play in their tournament.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 19 2021 13:50 GMT
#1983
On April 19 2021 21:56 sneakyfox wrote:
Shots fired:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310

On what rule or based on what? Because they can? This doesn't sound good.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 19 2021 14:01 GMT
#1984
But hey, if they ban them fast enough, Slavia will advance over Arsenal. GOGOGO, banaban
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
April 19 2021 14:02 GMT
#1985
On April 19 2021 22:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 21:56 sneakyfox wrote:
Shots fired:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310


All it would take is for one player to take UEFA to court for it to be thrown out. Players signed a contract with the Club not UEFA.

The court cases are going to be filed all over the world representing:

  • Sponsors
  • TV Networks
  • Supporters
  • Domestic Leagues
  • International Teams
  • Players


How do you figure? Surely UEFA/FIFA can let whoever they want (and don't) play in their tournaments?


"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9708 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 14:05:01
April 19 2021 14:04 GMT
#1986
On April 19 2021 23:02 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 22:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On April 19 2021 21:56 sneakyfox wrote:
Shots fired:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310


All it would take is for one player to take UEFA to court for it to be thrown out. Players signed a contract with the Club not UEFA.

The court cases are going to be filed all over the world representing:

  • Sponsors
  • TV Networks
  • Supporters
  • Domestic Leagues
  • International Teams
  • Players


How do you figure? Surely UEFA/FIFA can let whoever they want (and don't) play in their tournaments?



There's competition law on both sides.
There's going to be alot of huge legal battles and its going to go into EU law about the free market etc.
I'm curious as to how Brexit will affect that over here.
RIP Meatloaf <3
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4371 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 14:12:17
April 19 2021 14:05 GMT
#1987
Sky Sports are quoting an anonymous board member of one of the English breakaway clubs with the following.

The owners of the clubs involved were fully expecting a backlash to the super league plans but were 'not worried' about bad PR. “Our primary job is to maximise our revenues and profits. The wider good of the game is a secondary concern.”

Several of the American owners cannot understand why we have relegation in English football. They just can't get their heads around the concept.

Chelsea and Manchester City had major reservations about joining, but in the end decided they could not afford to be left playing in a weakened premier league.
Sucker for nostalgia
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 19 2021 14:18 GMT
#1988
On April 19 2021 23:05 DropBear wrote:
Sky Sports are quoting an anonymous board member of one of the English breakaway clubs with the following.

Show nested quote +
The owners of the clubs involved were fully expecting a backlash to the super league plans but were 'not worried' about bad PR. “Our primary job is to maximise our revenues and profits. The wider good of the game is a secondary concern.”

Several of the American owners cannot understand why we have relegation in English football. They just can't get their heads around the concept.

Chelsea and Manchester City had major reservations about joining, but in the end decided they could not afford to be left playing in a weakened premier league.

I stilll cannot get my head around the fact, that these rich ... insert a profanity here ... buy the football clubs as an investition and not as a hobby. So while they're immensely rich, they cannot afford to have a football club losing money or, the horror, not making enough of it.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6976 Posts
April 19 2021 14:35 GMT
#1989
I do not like the part about not beeing able to participate in Euros/ World cup.

Kick them out of the leagues, Cups and Champions league sure. That hits the club and the owners.
But Euros / WC hits the players the most.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 19 2021 14:39 GMT
#1990
On April 19 2021 23:35 Harris1st wrote:
I do not like the part about not beeing able to participate in Euros/ World cup.

Kick them out of the leagues, Cups and Champions league sure. That hits the club and the owners.
But Euros / WC hits the players the most.

In the end it ends like the NHL, but with harsh restrictions from the UEFA/FIFA. Good job. Hey, not having the top players on the Euro and WC, what can go wrong? The Olympic Games already cannot have the top players anyway, thanks FIFA.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9708 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 14:48:46
April 19 2021 14:42 GMT
#1991
If the teams and players are sectioned off in a shitty league of their own doing fine. I don't want them polluting my league with their mercenary bullshit. Players included, as long as they have a choice.
Then the plastic fans can enjoy watching the same no stakes rubbish every year and the rest of us can enjoy supporting our teams without the toxic BS these Americans are infecting our game with.
RIP Meatloaf <3
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 14:58:40
April 19 2021 14:57 GMT
#1992
On April 19 2021 23:35 Harris1st wrote:
I do not like the part about not beeing able to participate in Euros/ World cup.

Kick them out of the leagues, Cups and Champions league sure. That hits the club and the owners.
But Euros / WC hits the players the most.

Thats the point tho, to give the players a clear choice. Either you make stupid amounts of money and are eligible for the national team or you go make insane money but are banned
The only problem are current contracts and players not getting out of them, but for now its only talk and posturing anyway
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 15:03:45
April 19 2021 15:03 GMT
#1993
I have no sympathy for players.

They aren't being coerced by any meaningful situation.

Even the worst paid players in top leagues make absolutely obscene amounts of money by any reasonable standard. They also have the option of making tons of money at other clubs that don't sell out like this.

Major professional athletes are in the perfect position to make a moral stand against something like this.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 15:05:06
April 19 2021 15:04 GMT
#1994
The published champions league changes include four spots reserved for prestige teams that didn't qualify. Why oh why even that has to have handouts for the richest?

Other than that I'm okay with the swiss format and whatnot, fixture congestion is gonna be a problem, but they were never gonna reduce the number of games anyways, were they.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 15:25:08
April 19 2021 15:14 GMT
#1995
SkySports right now is freaking out that the Sport of "Soccer/Futbol" no longer exists...

edit: Why couldn't it have been a German or even an Italian bank... -.-;

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18482 Posts
April 19 2021 15:37 GMT
#1996
Why does anyone feel sorry for players in here? If they want to leave the super league they can. We all know player power is real. If a whole team (of players) decided they dont want to miss a world cup they have the power to leave the club or make the club do their bidding.

With losing fans to their stupid ideas, players have become even more important for the clubs now.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
April 19 2021 15:38 GMT
#1997
Mourinho sacked

supposedly for opposing to the superleague
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9708 Posts
April 19 2021 15:39 GMT
#1998
On April 20 2021 00:37 sharkie wrote:
Why does anyone feel sorry for players in here? If they want to leave the super league they can. We all know player power is real. If a whole team (of players) decided they dont want to miss a world cup they have the power to leave the club or make the club do their bidding.

With losing fans to their stupid ideas, players have become even more important for the clubs now.

Yeah you're right.
The fact that the players unions are saying they are going to fight against the international ban shows where these players' loyalty lies. In their wallets.
RIP Meatloaf <3
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 19 2021 15:45 GMT
#1999
On April 20 2021 00:38 Faruko wrote:
Mourinho sacked

supposedly for opposing to the superleague


So early termination paycheck, then a bigger one for the book deal. Win/Win.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 19 2021 15:50 GMT
#2000
As much as I have issues with Arteta, it must absolutely suck being in his position and having this completely new league forced onto him without his knowledge
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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