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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 17 2021 21:37 GMT
#1381
On June 18 2021 04:29 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it'll be interesting to see when the NBA and NBAPA are willing to take less money for playing fewer games.

Whenever I hear someone floating any idea about "fewer customers and less money" i'm reminded of that Jerry Maguire movie. Jerry Maguire gets insta-fired for suggesting the company makes less money and bring on fewer customers in order to improve the happiness of the employees.
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On June 18 2021 04:23 andrewlt wrote:
But I think the biggest reason is the short rest between last season and this season plus condensing 72-games into a shorter regular season.

2018-2019 was a 177 day season with 82 games.
This year was a 146 day season with 72 games.

the season was only slightly condensed.

There was a great uproar around 2017 and 2018 about spacing the games out more in order to give players more rest. Welp, the 2015-16 season was 170 days long. So for all the theatrics during that time period about giving players more rest days.... the players got 7 extra days.



There were 17.8 back to back games per team in 2015-2016. That was down to 13.3 in 2018-2019. The NBA also managed to reduce the number of 4 games in 5 nights and 5 games in 7 nights stretches.

These things can matter in the margins. Think about it this way. A 146 day season with 72 games has 72 days with games and 74 without, only 2 more. A 177 day season with 82 games has 82 days with games and 95 days without, 13 more. Those extra days without games give players time to heal from all these overuse and fatigue injuries.

Or you can think of those 7 extra days in a normal season that you're dismissing as the equivalent of your boss giving you 1 extra PTO day per month to recharge your batteries.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
June 17 2021 23:38 GMT
#1382
the fans and the tv networks will hate it, but i think more back to backs in the same city like what they did this year would be very helpful in a regularly scheduled season.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18038 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 03:22:21
June 18 2021 02:55 GMT
#1383
How did Giannis stay in bounds?
On June 18 2021 06:37 andrewlt wrote:
There were 17.8 back to back games per team in 2015-2016. That was down to 13.3 in 2018-2019. The NBA also managed to reduce the number of 4 games in 5 nights and 5 games in 7 nights stretches.

The Raptors played zero 4 games in 5 night stretches in 2015-2016. Pretty sure the CBA did not allow 4 in 5 in the 2015-2016.
You can't get lower than zero.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 18 2021 14:00 GMT
#1384
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18038 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 14:18:42
June 18 2021 14:16 GMT
#1385
interesting look at Kawhi's knee injury and a medical guy questions why there is no MRI.



After Kawhi's feud with the Spurs over medical diagnosis' one must wonder if Kawhi and the Clippers are feuding right now over a medical diagnosis.

When is the last time an NBA player twisted their knee in a playoff game, missed a game and the final minutes of another game and no MRI was performed to aid in the diagnosis of the injury?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 18 2021 14:35 GMT
#1386
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18038 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 17:58:53
June 18 2021 17:55 GMT
#1387
On June 18 2021 23:35 JimmiC wrote:
Considering Kawhi could opt out and the clippers would be completely fucked since they have no picks forever, I'm sure they are doing what ever he wants.

If Kawhi can't play next year i'm uncertain whether or not the Clippers are "doing what ever he wants". And, until "more imaging results" come in.. I'm certain of nothing on the injury diagnostic side.

What a clusterfuck the Clippers continue to be. It is fascinating to watch though. IMO, Ty Lue deserves a metric tonne of credit for steering this titanic through the icebergs.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 18 2021 18:16 GMT
#1388
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 18 2021 21:24 GMT
#1389
On June 18 2021 23:00 JimmiC wrote:
In reunion/salary dump The celtics trade Kemba and a first for horford and brown. (second going either way in diff years as well. OKC continues its 1 millions fits strats they ahve 3 this year! Celts is pretty decent pick as well.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31659124/boston-celtics-trading-kemba-walker-2021-first-rounder-oklahoma-city-thunder-sources-say


Celtics are a good case study on how stockpiling draft picks is the easy part of building a contender that any idiot can do. They used to have such a deep team with a lot of draft picks. Then they lost Hayward, Irving and Horford and are now trading Kemba to get Oldford back. They don't have the depth and the multitude of draft picks they used to have.

There are only so many impact players in the NBA. Translating a dozen mid to late round draft picks to even one impact player is a lot easier said than done.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 18 2021 23:13 GMT
#1390
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18038 Posts
June 19 2021 04:12 GMT
#1391
Reggie "Mr. June" Jackson running wild while Mitchell is limping around.
On June 19 2021 03:16 JimmiC wrote:
Or it is all fine, there is a lot of assumptions you are making. Time will tell.

i'm assuming nothing. as my post said i'm certain of nothing.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18038 Posts
June 19 2021 19:32 GMT
#1392
LBJ is getting old and injured more often while Anthony Davis is hurt almost every year. It must be the head athletic trainer's fault! Fire Her Now! LOL.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31667425/los-angeles-lakers-renew-contract-head-trainer-following-injury-riddled-season-sources-say

15 years ago no one could've conceived of an ESPN "top story" like this one. Its been at the top of ESPN NBA for hours now.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 20 2021 21:10 GMT
#1393
On June 19 2021 08:13 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2021 06:24 andrewlt wrote:
On June 18 2021 23:00 JimmiC wrote:
In reunion/salary dump The celtics trade Kemba and a first for horford and brown. (second going either way in diff years as well. OKC continues its 1 millions fits strats they ahve 3 this year! Celts is pretty decent pick as well.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31659124/boston-celtics-trading-kemba-walker-2021-first-rounder-oklahoma-city-thunder-sources-say


Celtics are a good case study on how stockpiling draft picks is the easy part of building a contender that any idiot can do. They used to have such a deep team with a lot of draft picks. Then they lost Hayward, Irving and Horford and are now trading Kemba to get Oldford back. They don't have the depth and the multitude of draft picks they used to have.

There are only so many impact players in the NBA. Translating a dozen mid to late round draft picks to even one impact player is a lot easier said than done.

I agree, but it does keep the fan base happy while the team struggles!

Boston made the mistake of not "over paying" in picks for established stars. OKC will have that challenge and also that not as many people want to go there so the FA approach will likely not work. Will be fun to see how it works out.

Meh. They had Kyrie and Hayward in thier primes with Tatum & Brown. The fact is Boston is an example of how player empowerment means there is going to be a near-permanent NBA underclass for teams in the lesser cities.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-21 02:35:52
June 20 2021 22:35 GMT
#1394
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 21 2021 02:35 GMT
#1395
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18038 Posts
June 21 2021 02:41 GMT
#1396
The Hawks, Suns, Bucks, and Clippers have been in the NBA a combined 87 bazillion years and combined for 2 NBA titles. It'll be cool seeing 1 of these teams win it all.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-21 03:49:16
June 21 2021 03:48 GMT
#1397
Simmons is such a weird player. He can play lock down defense, he can pass the ball nicely. But something is seriously wrong with his offensive game. He doesn't shoot. He lurks underneath the basket, while almost never getting offensive boards. That open layup / dunk today which he passed to Thybulle sums it up perfectly. He's a liability in playoff games due to his abysmal FT shooting. Hating on him is easy, but Philly need to sort this out quickly. The whole Embiid / Simmons combo simply doesn't work. At least Curry and Harris showed up today. Embiid also played well, but he can't hard carry that team in the long run. His body won't allow it.

In the end, it doesn't matter who wins the east. They're gonna get rolled by the Clippers or the Suns.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 21 2021 06:41 GMT
#1398
On June 21 2021 07:35 JimmiC wrote:
Well they really never got Hayword because of his leg breaking the first game. Would have been interesting to see how that team would have worked.


For sure, and I'm not like a Danny Stan, but who realistically did better over the last 10 years? He lost 2 All-NBA caliber players for 0 assets through no fault of his own. They lost Kyrie because, he obviously hated the city. They lost Hayword to a freak injury. What other franchise lost 2 equivalent assets and even made the playoffs?
Freeeeeeedom
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1101 Posts
June 21 2021 07:33 GMT
#1399
On June 21 2021 12:48 virpi wrote:
Simmons is such a weird player. He can play lock down defense, he can pass the ball nicely. But something is seriously wrong with his offensive game. He doesn't shoot. He lurks underneath the basket, while almost never getting offensive boards. That open layup / dunk today which he passed to Thybulle sums it up perfectly. He's a liability in playoff games due to his abysmal FT shooting. Hating on him is easy, but Philly need to sort this out quickly. The whole Embiid / Simmons combo simply doesn't work. At least Curry and Harris showed up today. Embiid also played well, but he can't hard carry that team in the long run. His body won't allow it.


He faced reporters after the game and took some savage questions. Respect for that. But there IS something seriously wrong with his game and mindset.



wtf!?

In the end, it doesn't matter who wins the east. They're gonna get rolled by the Clippers or the Suns.


I think it's Iannis title to take this year.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 21 2021 13:18 GMT
#1400
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