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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 16 2021 07:45 GMT
#1361
that game sealed the deal for bud
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 16 2021 13:38 GMT
#1362
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 16 2021 14:40 GMT
#1363
Just when I thought we are rounding a corner, Kawhi and CP3 go down. Suns were relatively healthy before that too. Utah should be the team to beat in the west now, depending on Mitchell's injury status.

KD just had an unreal game. I think Nets have a chance to eke out one more win against the Bucks. He was one late free throw miss away from hitting 50. Have to wonder how he got 17 rebounds, Harden got 6 and nobody else on the team got more than 3.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-16 14:52:16
June 16 2021 14:49 GMT
#1364
the medical staff is now a critical part of every team. a big factor in the Raptors 2019 playoff run was the medical staff keeping Lowry and Leonard on the court. Donovan Mitchell gets worked on by a full pit crew on the sidelines every minute he is off the court. LOL. The guy is almost as high maintenance as an F1 car.
On June 16 2021 16:45 rabidch wrote:
that game sealed the deal for bud

i'm surprised he still has a job. there was zero motion in the bucks offense in the 2nd half. On the other hand, the Bucks don't really have any genius level BBIQ guys... so maybe he is just working with the players he has. Also, people who know way more about the Bucks than I do say the ball movement was a lot better when divincenzo was on the floor.

fair or not.. i say Bud is gone.

i like the Nets to win it all. They can't have consecutive long series tho. 2 consecutive 7-gamers and i say Durant goes down.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
June 16 2021 17:10 GMT
#1365
last year was the mickey mouse ring, i wonder what's the nickname for this years ring with all the injuries.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-16 18:36:51
June 16 2021 18:34 GMT
#1366
Speculation is out there Kawhi has a ligament tear. It is interesting that there was no news of Kawhi undergoing an MRI. Usually, pro athletes get an MRI within 24 hours of a possible injury.

Here is a look at Kyrie's ankle injury.


TL DR; its prolly an ATFL injury.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 16 2021 18:41 GMT
#1367
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 16 2021 20:04 GMT
#1368
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
June 16 2021 22:33 GMT
#1369
These injuries are so terrible. The NBA should drastically reduce the load on players. There was not enough rest between the last and the current season. 82 (or 72) games per season plus the playoffs are too much as well. I know that it has always been this way. In the end, it's about money. But as of right now, the playoffs have turned into injury bingo.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 17 2021 02:54 GMT
#1370
I think they also need to address the rules. That offensive players are essentially rewarded for throwing their body all over the place can't be a good thing. Its not just the Trae move, people are flailing around in the lane too.

Also Gary Payton had an interview where he pointed out the # of possessions might be a factor. People are running so much they are getting tired in game and lose some "protective" baby fat.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-17 03:29:40
June 17 2021 03:19 GMT
#1371
The Hawks/76ers game was amazing. Ben Simmons 4 for 14 from the free throw line? LOL.
On June 17 2021 07:33 virpi wrote:
These injuries are so terrible. The NBA should drastically reduce the load on players. There was not enough rest between the last and the current season. 82 (or 72) games per season plus the playoffs are too much as well. I know that it has always been this way. In the end, it's about money. But as of right now, the playoffs have turned into injury bingo.

its up to the NBA and NBAPA to do this. The NBA owners can't do anything on their own. The players wanted this.. the owners wanted this. they wanted the money....

you reap what you sow.

it isn't just the short layoff though. The general public possesses an unquenchable thirst for "faster, stronger, more explosive". We have an athletic elite more than willing to train and tune their bodies 24/7/365 to meet the public's demand for "faster, stronger more explosive."

"faster , stronger , more explosive" means more injuries as athletes are subjecting their bodies to higher levels of force than ever.

MLB has the same problem with pitching. MLB has more pitchers than ever who can throw 97+ MPH. It is very rare for a pitcher who throws that hard to stay healthy for any length of time.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-17 05:22:12
June 17 2021 05:21 GMT
#1372

uhh what's with this BS? the injury was 2+ days ago. read the MRI results. no speculation or fear needed.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1101 Posts
June 17 2021 06:58 GMT
#1373
On June 17 2021 12:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Hawks/76ers game was amazing. Ben Simmons 4 for 14 from the free throw line? LOL.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2021 07:33 virpi wrote:
These injuries are so terrible. The NBA should drastically reduce the load on players. There was not enough rest between the last and the current season. 82 (or 72) games per season plus the playoffs are too much as well. I know that it has always been this way. In the end, it's about money. But as of right now, the playoffs have turned into injury bingo.

its up to the NBA and NBAPA to do this. The NBA owners can't do anything on their own. The players wanted this.. the owners wanted this. they wanted the money....

you reap what you sow.

it isn't just the short layoff though. The general public possesses an unquenchable thirst for "faster, stronger, more explosive". We have an athletic elite more than willing to train and tune their bodies 24/7/365 to meet the public's demand for "faster, stronger more explosive."

"faster , stronger , more explosive" means more injuries as athletes are subjecting their bodies to higher levels of force than ever.

MLB has the same problem with pitching. MLB has more pitchers than ever who can throw 97+ MPH. It is very rare for a pitcher who throws that hard to stay healthy for any length of time.


He is the first guard in NBA history to miss 10 FTs in a playoff game.

The Hawks are an exceptionally well built and well coached team (why don't they give McMillan the job already?). I would give hack'a'Simmons another go anytime the 76ers start rolling next game, starting in the 1st.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
June 17 2021 14:12 GMT
#1374
On June 17 2021 15:58 r00ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2021 12:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Hawks/76ers game was amazing. Ben Simmons 4 for 14 from the free throw line? LOL.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2021 07:33 virpi wrote:
These injuries are so terrible. The NBA should drastically reduce the load on players. There was not enough rest between the last and the current season. 82 (or 72) games per season plus the playoffs are too much as well. I know that it has always been this way. In the end, it's about money. But as of right now, the playoffs have turned into injury bingo.

its up to the NBA and NBAPA to do this. The NBA owners can't do anything on their own. The players wanted this.. the owners wanted this. they wanted the money....

you reap what you sow.

it isn't just the short layoff though. The general public possesses an unquenchable thirst for "faster, stronger, more explosive". We have an athletic elite more than willing to train and tune their bodies 24/7/365 to meet the public's demand for "faster, stronger more explosive."

"faster , stronger , more explosive" means more injuries as athletes are subjecting their bodies to higher levels of force than ever.

MLB has the same problem with pitching. MLB has more pitchers than ever who can throw 97+ MPH. It is very rare for a pitcher who throws that hard to stay healthy for any length of time.


He is the first guard in NBA history to miss 10 FTs in a playoff game.

The Hawks are an exceptionally well built and well coached team (why don't they give McMillan the job already?). I would give hack'a'Simmons another go anytime the 76ers start rolling next game, starting in the 1st.

good points. If you are going to start "hack a Ben" in the first quarter you'd probably have to assign a specific bench player or two willing to take fouls though. It'd be hilarious if it ever got to that and a team assigned the 8th or 9th guy in their rotation to do nothing but foul Simmons.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 17 2021 15:28 GMT
#1375
On June 17 2021 15:58 r00ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2021 12:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Hawks/76ers game was amazing. Ben Simmons 4 for 14 from the free throw line? LOL.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2021 07:33 virpi wrote:
These injuries are so terrible. The NBA should drastically reduce the load on players. There was not enough rest between the last and the current season. 82 (or 72) games per season plus the playoffs are too much as well. I know that it has always been this way. In the end, it's about money. But as of right now, the playoffs have turned into injury bingo.

its up to the NBA and NBAPA to do this. The NBA owners can't do anything on their own. The players wanted this.. the owners wanted this. they wanted the money....

you reap what you sow.

it isn't just the short layoff though. The general public possesses an unquenchable thirst for "faster, stronger, more explosive". We have an athletic elite more than willing to train and tune their bodies 24/7/365 to meet the public's demand for "faster, stronger more explosive."

"faster , stronger , more explosive" means more injuries as athletes are subjecting their bodies to higher levels of force than ever.

MLB has the same problem with pitching. MLB has more pitchers than ever who can throw 97+ MPH. It is very rare for a pitcher who throws that hard to stay healthy for any length of time.


He is the first guard in NBA history to miss 10 FTs in a playoff game.

The Hawks are an exceptionally well built and well coached team (why don't they give McMillan the job already?). I would give hack'a'Simmons another go anytime the 76ers start rolling next game, starting in the 1st.


How are then Hawks these things? They'd have been swept by healthy Embiid Philly or either team on the other side of the bracket.

I mean, legit they can win the title this year... Because there are a only like 2 real teams left, and they both might also suffer season ending injuries. But otherwise they are a team who's best player is discount Steph.
Freeeeeeedom
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1101 Posts
June 17 2021 18:26 GMT
#1376
On June 18 2021 00:28 cLutZ wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2021 15:58 r00ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2021 12:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Hawks/76ers game was amazing. Ben Simmons 4 for 14 from the free throw line? LOL.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2021 07:33 virpi wrote:
These injuries are so terrible. The NBA should drastically reduce the load on players. There was not enough rest between the last and the current season. 82 (or 72) games per season plus the playoffs are too much as well. I know that it has always been this way. In the end, it's about money. But as of right now, the playoffs have turned into injury bingo.

its up to the NBA and NBAPA to do this. The NBA owners can't do anything on their own. The players wanted this.. the owners wanted this. they wanted the money....

you reap what you sow.

it isn't just the short layoff though. The general public possesses an unquenchable thirst for "faster, stronger, more explosive". We have an athletic elite more than willing to train and tune their bodies 24/7/365 to meet the public's demand for "faster, stronger more explosive."

"faster , stronger , more explosive" means more injuries as athletes are subjecting their bodies to higher levels of force than ever.

MLB has the same problem with pitching. MLB has more pitchers than ever who can throw 97+ MPH. It is very rare for a pitcher who throws that hard to stay healthy for any length of time.


He is the first guard in NBA history to miss 10 FTs in a playoff game.

The Hawks are an exceptionally well built and well coached team (why don't they give McMillan the job already?). I would give hack'a'Simmons another go anytime the 76ers start rolling next game, starting in the 1st.


How are then Hawks these things? They'd have been swept by healthy Embiid Philly or either team on the other side of the bracket.

I mean, legit they can win the title this year... Because there are a only like 2 real teams left, and they both might also suffer season ending injuries. But otherwise they are a team who's best player is discount Steph.


I don't think Embiid will ever have a "healthy" playoff run. Definitely not the whole way. I may have used the wrong adjective in exceptional, but they are doing a pretty good job.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-17 19:25:06
June 17 2021 18:33 GMT
#1377
I'd say the Hawks are well coached, but not "exceptionally well built". I recall Tasteless describing SjoW as "Macgiver with Starcraft units". Mcmillan looks like "macgiver with basketball players".

For how many playoff runs has Embiid been healthy? it seems like there is always something wrong with him every playoffs.

much respect to guys like Nate Mcmillan and Dwane Casey who are willing to take one step backwards in order to move forward a year or two later on in their careers.

Ty Lue continues to pull all the right strings...
In the previous series he benched two starters. This series Lue puts 5 shooters on the floor and dares Gobert to leave the key.

On June 18 2021 03:26 r00ty wrote:
I may have used the wrong adjective in exceptional, but they are doing a pretty good job.

i bet you your english is better than my german.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 17 2021 19:23 GMT
#1378
On June 17 2021 11:54 cLutZ wrote:
I think they also need to address the rules. That offensive players are essentially rewarded for throwing their body all over the place can't be a good thing. Its not just the Trae move, people are flailing around in the lane too.


Definitely needs to be looked at. They are planning to look at unnatural motions but I don't think they'll go far enough. A lot of these foul hunting nonsense should really be offensive fouls.


Also Gary Payton had an interview where he pointed out the # of possessions might be a factor. People are running so much they are getting tired in game and lose some "protective" baby fat.


That's a frequently overlooked point. The last time the NBA played at this pace was in the 80s, before players started lifting weights and such. They were really skinny back then with builds closer to long-distance runners.

The 90s and early 2000s were more physical, but they also wasted 10-15 seconds every possession very slowly walking the ball down the court while doing nothing.

But I think the biggest reason is the short rest between last season and this season plus condensing 72-games into a shorter regular season.

JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-17 19:55:21
June 17 2021 19:29 GMT
#1379
it'll be interesting to see when the NBA and NBAPA are willing to take less money for playing fewer games.

Whenever I hear someone floating any idea about "fewer customers and less money" i'm reminded of that Jerry Maguire movie. Jerry Maguire gets insta-fired for suggesting the company makes less money and bring on fewer customers in order to improve the happiness of the employees.
www.youtube.com

On June 18 2021 04:23 andrewlt wrote:
But I think the biggest reason is the short rest between last season and this season plus condensing 72-games into a shorter regular season.

2018-2019 was a 177 day season with 82 games.
This year was a 146 day season with 72 games.

the season was only slightly condensed.

There was a great uproar around 2017 and 2018 about spacing the games out more in order to give players more rest. Welp, the 2015-16 season was 170 days long. So for all the theatrics during that time period about giving players more rest days.... the players got 7 extra days.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 17 2021 19:55 GMT
#1380
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