EPT2019 - 2020 Football Thread - Page 160
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Deleted User 173346
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
That Arsenal game was so poor. They barely threatened West Ham's goal at all and looked vulnerable as anything on the counter. I guess Arsenal won. But I keep hearing a lot of "Arsenal are heading in the right direction" talk and I'm not really seeing that at all. Liverpool's nervousness is getting fun to watch. The Atheltico game is going to be huge. Crucial point for Brighton at Wolves sees them edge 2 points clear of the relegation places and it's significant in Wolves no Champions League ambitions. I can't sleep so I'm going to watch Mourinho's continuing efforts to rot Tottenham out from the inside. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
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Of course a foul at the edge of the penalty area of Barca is not even reviewed, but we are used to these things, so whatever. Sometimes I wonder why are they still using VAR... Unless of course this is their idea of "using" VAR. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On March 08 2020 04:51 Pr0wler wrote: VAR in La Liga is something special. Barca receives a penalty after VAR review - obvious handball. So no problem at all... Except the fact that the situation comes after obvious offside. I wonder who has to watch for these things. Of course a foul at the edge of the penalty area of Barca is not even reviewed, but we are used to these things, so whatever. Sometimes I wonder why are they still using VAR... Unless of course this is their idea of "using" VAR. From what you wrote, I'm not really sure where VAR was applied wrongly. You should probably explain a bit more in detail, how this application was conflicting the rules regarding VAR. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
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On March 08 2020 06:55 mahrgell wrote: From what you wrote, I'm not really sure where VAR was applied wrongly. You should probably explain a bit more in detail, how this application was conflicting the rules regarding VAR. The penalty comes after an offside in the same play... what is unclear about it ? | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On March 08 2020 07:41 Pr0wler wrote: The penalty comes after an offside in the same play... what is unclear about it ? There are 4 reviewable situations: a) goals - was there a rule violation by the scoring team leading to the goal b) penalties - was there a foul inside the box yes/no c) potential red card incidents d) mistaken identity And that offside falls under neither of them. a) It would only be reviewable if it was a goal (so not fouling inside the box and just letting them walk the ball into the goal would have worked here...) b) only applies to fouls inside the box, not the build up c+d) are irrelevant So from everything you said so far, I still don't see the issue. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
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If the system is applied the way you describe, quite honestly, we are better off without it. | ||
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8931 Posts
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Deleted User 26513
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The problem I see(again, if the system is applied the way mahrgell, described, which I think is not the case.) is that they are ignoring human logic and the rules of the game while blindly following the VAR directives. | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
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{CC}StealthBlue
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On March 08 2020 08:37 mahrgell wrote: There are 4 reviewable situations: a) goals - was there a rule violation by the scoring team leading to the goal b) penalties - was there a foul inside the box yes/no c) potential red card incidents d) mistaken identity And that offside falls under neither of them. a) It would only be reviewable if it was a goal (so not fouling inside the box and just letting them walk the ball into the goal would have worked here...) b) only applies to fouls inside the box, not the build up c+d) are irrelevant So from everything you said so far, I still don't see the issue. So unless I misunderstand you, this is wrong, an offside in the direct buildup to the penalty could be reviewed because it is part of the situation/direct buildup. However in this particular situation there is no offside. Vidal is passively offside during the freekick and then the attempted clearance that goes to him creates a new situation. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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DropBear
Australia4437 Posts
On March 08 2020 23:34 Greg_J wrote: Chelsea cruising against Everton. How good is this wee Scottish laddie! | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4394 Posts
Strange that that United goal did not need VAR review. Without a replay it seem Martial was a little bit ahead...maybe from the replay it was clear. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On March 08 2020 19:59 sneirac wrote: No a rebound from a save/goalpost is treated differently than a clearance from a defender. It's the way passive offside has been interpreted for years, Vidal doesn't actively participate in the play from an offside position until the clearance and the clearance creates a new situation in play. Thus no offside, blame the rule/the interpretation of it, not the referee/VAR for getting it exactly as he is supposed to. Yeah that pretty much sums up my understanding of the situation aswell. Once a new passage of play is in place thats not a reviewable event anymore. | ||
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